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[WildOrchid]

To be honest, I think it was a mistake to announce the homosexual LIs well before the heterosexual options. I would be annoyed if they announced the heterosexual options first. They should have brought out bisexual options first, so that everyone felt included, and worked in the gender gated options from there.

 

Personally, I don't think it was a mistake at all. They always used to announce all the LI's at once anyway.. Announcing the hetero first would annoy the gay people or vice versa.

 

I think they should've announced the bi ones first.

[90s Luke]

At most, Sera will be available to four different Inquisitors - female human, female elf, female dwarf, and female qunari. At most.

 

Let's assume, just for the sake of argument, that each LI will also be available to four different Inquisitors.

 

Under this rule, Cassandra would either be straight (with no race restrictions) or bisexual (and restricted to two different races).

[azarhal]

At most, Sera will be available to four different Inquisitors - female human, female elf, female dwarf, and female qunari. At most.

 

Let's assume, just for the sake of argument, that each LI will also be available to four different Inquisitors.

 

Under this rule, Cassandra would either be straight (with no race restrictions) or bisexual (and restricted to two different races).

 

If there is a single female bisexual LI, I doubt she would be race-gated. In fact, going by the number of female LI candidates and all of them beside the lesbian one being humans, I doubt there is any race-gating going here.

[CapivaRasgor]

Seriously, it's like my very first post on this page.
 

Specifically, I'd like to direct you to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Here is the relevant paragraph:

"Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to romance Cassandra because she is hella hot or change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief or love of Cassandra in teaching, practice, worship and observance."
 

Dear Cassandra, please slip your hand inside my straps and batter me against a metal gate.

 

May I point out that you remind me of someone I know in real life? In her case it's the revolution to implement the right to marry Morrigan as a woman, but still.. the resemblance is uncanny.

[CapivaRasgor]

Seriously, it's like my very first post on this page.
 

Specifically, I'd like to direct you to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Here is the relevant paragraph:

"Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to romance Cassandra because she is hella hot or change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief or love of Cassandra in teaching, practice, worship and observance."
 

Dear Cassandra, please slip your hand inside my straps and batter me against a metal gate.

 

May I point out that you remind me of someone I know in real life? In her case it's the revolution to implement the right to marry Morrigan as a woman, but still.. the resemblance is uncanny.

[Todd23]

Because she's shown at least some interest in guys and looks like she's in to girls.

[Balancer]

Personally, I don't think it was a mistake at all. They always used to announce all the LI's at once anyway.. Announcing the hetero first would annoy the gay people or vice versa.
 
I think they should've announced the bi ones first.

I think it was the pragmatic thing to do. Because the longer bioware would wait announcing the gay LI's more of the straigth players would get there hopes up(Since straigth players are probaly still the biggest fanbase). The bigger the sh*tstorm would become. I myself was a bit Dissappointed at the reveal that sera was a lesbian. But because it was so early announced, it was pretty easy to get over it(still like her character tho). I realize the same goes for gay players aswell, so i hope the straigth LI's will be revealed next. Then we can discus together who the BI LI's are

As for Cass straigth or BI I will romance her anyway. But i kinda think she will be straigth, viv does not strike me as a LI. Scribbles seems more likely imo which will make 2straigth companions cass and solas(?) 2gay sera dorian 2 bi cullen scribbles but than again bioware migth just suprise us.

Btw i do hope for the ladies interested in cass that she is bi

[90s Luke]

If there is a single female bisexual LI, I doubt she would be race-gated. In fact, going by the number of female LI candidates and all of them beside the lesbian one being humans, I doubt there is any race-gating going here.

 

There's still three females left - Cassandra, Vivienne, and Scribbles.

 

Two of them could be bisexual (with racial restrictions) and one of them could be straight.

[Who Knows]

Well I guess that Scribbles is a romance based on developer comment that "some" advisers are romanceable. "Some" does not make sense if Cullen is the only option. I would also guess that Scribbles is whatever sexuality Cullen is, for symmetry. But there's no guarantee they'll go for that.

 

Still a chance that the phrasing was an error or being tricky and including Leliana's DA:O romance for "some."

[AresKeith]

Well I guess that Scribbles is a romance based on developer comment that "some" advisers are romanceable. "Some" does not make sense if Cullen is the only option. I would also guess that Scribbles is whatever sexuality Cullen is, for symmetry. But there's no guarantee they'll go for that.

 

Still a chance that the phrasing was an error or being tricky and including Leliana's DA:O romance for "some."

 

Why would they include Leliana's DA:O romance?

[Deviija]

Personally, I don't think it was a mistake at all. They always used to announce all the LI's at once anyway.. Announcing the hetero first would annoy the gay people or vice versa.

 

I think they should've announced the bi ones first.

 

If by always used to announce all the LIs at once means only DA2, then yes.  With Origins, Morrigan and Leliana were confirmed romance options with dude Wardens long before Alistair was confirmed as an LI and Zevran came even later.  

[Sylvianus]

And what would think people if Scribe girl was straight but both Cassandra and Vivienne were Lis and BI ? Personally, I would be totally fine. I don't care about the orientations, I'd jut like to be able to choose between two companions.   

[HiroVoid]

And what would think people if Scribe girl was straight but both Cassandra and Vivienne were Lis and BI ? Personally, I would be totally fine. I don't care about the orientations, I'd jut like to be able to choose between two companions.   

I think you basically just said the thought process for the majority of customers.  If they care about romance a good bit, I doubt they're going to differentiate much between who's straight and who's bisexual.  If anything, the latter means a likelier chance at finding a bi npc later on who'll be cool with a threesome.

[daveliam]

I think you basically just said the thought process for the majority of customers.  If they care about romance a good bit, I doubt they're going to differentiate much between who's straight and who's bisexual.  If anything, the latter means a likelier chance at finding a bi npc later on who'll be cool with a threesome.

 

Unfortunately, I do think that some people will complain about lesbian women getting two companions and straight guys getting only one.  I guess that matters to some people.  It doesn't make sense to me, but who am I to judge?  I personally was fine with getting just one squadmate and an NPC in ME 3, but that's just me (and probably because I really liked both romances alot).

[ReelRipper]

I been seeing from a lot of post that there would be six romance options although others had said more. So far 4 have been confirmed although two of them have their sexualities still in the air. 

I think there is a very high chance that there will be one bi-sexual companion but who that is will be revealed when the developers deem it necessary...or they could troll us and neither Cassandra or Scribe Girl is available and our only option will be a Broodmother with a southern accent named Sally May.

[HiroVoid]

Unfortunately, I do think that some people will complain about lesbian women getting two companions and straight guys getting only one.  I guess that matters to some people.  It doesn't make sense to me, but who am I to judge?  I personally was fine with getting just one squadmate and an NPC in ME 3, but that's just me (and probably because I really liked both romances alot).

Well, yeah.  I'm not saying some people won't complain about it.  I'm just saying it won't be a big deal for the majority of people who buy it and hardly/never ever go on a forum to discuss it.

[azarhal]

There's still three females left - Cassandra, Vivienne, and Scribbles.

 

Two of them could be bisexual (with racial restrictions) and one of them could be straight.

 

They are all humans, that's the problem. They will always accept human + another race (so one race has a single gay/straight option) or they gate a single race at which point they should have stayed with a single bisexual character that accept all, it would have cost less in term of time to make.

[draken-heart]

I do not plan to romance Cassandra either, so she can be a Sebastian-type romance for all I care.

[Grieving Natashina]

Thought she was gay tbh.

Heya, long time no see.  

 

Because she's shown at least some interest in guys and looks like she's in to girls.

A kiss on the cheek from around 20 years ago and the words Varric said to Cassandra is not concrete proof of her sexuality. 

 

My best guy friend from high school came out as bi at the age of 20.  I didn't know until I saw him kissing another guy.  Before then, there was zero signs of it whatsoever.  I had no clue, but he was but there he was, out and proud.  Did he change somehow?  Nope, he was the same guy he had always been.  He was happier though.

[Mathias]

If Cass is Bi then that kinda implies Iron Bull will be Bi, so that the two advisers Cullen and Scribbles will be straight. If this is the case, then that means Gay Players will have access to all the party member romances, and Straight Players only access to two. 

[Grieving Natashina]

You're assuming a lot of things with this post.

 

1) That we're only going to have 6 romances.

 

2) The sexuality of those characters you mentioned.  Iron Bull is not 100% confirmed (as bisexual or as a romance, same with Scribbles) and none of the others on your list have had their sexuality confirmed either.

 

3) That there is a problem with sharing bisexual LIs.

 

I'm sure you'll have a couple of straight lady LIs to choose from.  Okay, that's probably at least two right there.  Guess what?  If Cassandra is bisexual, you'd be able to romance her.  If Vivienne (which I noticed you left out) is bi, again, you'd be able to romance her.  Same goes with any bisexual lady LI, unless that's somehow bad to you.  Having these characters bisexual isn't excluding you.  I loathe to use the word "privilege," but this is a textbook case.

 

Equal does not mean less.  And we still aren't equal yet.  Most of the gaming industry is still trying to bang down your door.  It must be nice because many of us can't even imagine that.  Now you're saying it's "unfair" if the one company that truly gives a crap about the LGBTQ gamer community might make a few ladies bisexual.  Do you have any idea how immature you sound, not to mention a little homophobic?

 

I personally don't understand why it's such a huge deal that maybe...just maybe...straight men might only have two options all to themselves and might have to share the bisexual LIs with the LGBT community.  Also, perhaps it's time to realize that BioWare doesn't care if they make a few straight male gamers unhappy.  I cannot stress this enough: (nearly) equal for the minority doesn't mean less for the majority.   I'm very thankful that most of the straight men have been supportive and happy for the LGBTQ community.  Many of them certainly don't mind if their preferred female LI is bisexual either.  It doesn't affect their game, so why should it?

 

Welcome to the 21st Century.  If you think you're still going to get all of the favoritism that you'd gotten in the last 20+ years, then you're sadly mistaken.  Time to learn how to share with others.

[Mathias]

You're assuming a lot of things with this post.

 

1) That we're only going to have 6 romances.

 

2) The sexuality of those characters you mentioned.  Iron Bull is not 100% confirmed (as bisexual or as a romance, same with Scribbles) and none of the others on your list have had their sexuality confirmed either.

 

3) That there is a problem with sharing bisexual LIs.

 

I'm sure you'll have a couple of straight lady LIs to choose from.  Okay, that's probably at least two right there.  Guess what?  If Cassandra is bisexual, you'd be able to romance her.  If Vivienne (which I noticed you left out) is bi, again, you'd be able to romance her.  Same goes with any bisexual companion, unless that's somehow bad to you.  Having these characters bisexual isn't excluding you.  I loathe to use the word "privilege," but this is a textbook case.

 

Equal does not mean less.  And we still aren't equal yet.  Most of the gaming industry is still trying to bang down your door.  It must be nice because many of us can't even imagine that.  Now you're saying it's "unfair" if the one company that truly gives a crap about the LGBTQ gamer community might make a few ladies bisexual.  Do you have any idea how immature you sound, not to mention a little homophobic?

 

I personally don't understand why it's such a huge deal that maybe...just maybe...straight men might only have two options all to themselves and might have to share the bisexual LIs with the LGBT community.  Also, perhaps it's time to realize that BioWare doesn't care if they make a few straight male gamers unhappy.  I cannot stress this enough: (nearly) equal for the minority doesn't mean less for the majority.   I'm very thankful that most of the straight men have been supportive and happy for the LGBTQ community.  Many of them certainly don't mind if their preferred female LI is bisexual either.  It doesn't affect their game, so why should it?

 

Welcome to the 21st Century.  If you think you're still going to get all of the favoritism that you'd gotten in the last 20+ years, then you're sadly mistaken.  Time to learn how to share with others.

 

You know why I hate your post? Because you went off a big rant here, trying to lecture me and get me to check my privilege, when all I did was point something out. I didn't complain and I didn't say it was unfair. I made a simple speculation.

 

Work on your social skills, and don't start going on your equal rights offense on people at the drop of a pin. I don't appreciate people calling me immature and homophobic, I didn't do anything.

[Sylvan]

There will always be some sort of imbalance or someone unhappy or etc etc. Who cares? It's an alternate reality and nothing more. I'm happy there is going to be representation of my sexuality for the first time in the series. I'll take it. If Cassandra is bisexual, again, who cares? Let it be. This is all that is ever argued on here. Romance and sexuality. It's more annoying than the Mage-Templar debate.

[Grieving Natashina]

Since you asked, Mathias:

 

If Cass is Bi then that kinda implies Iron Bull will be Bi, so that the two advisers Cullen and Scribbles will be straight. If this is the case, then that means Gay Players will have access to all the party member romances, and Straight Players only access to two. 

I pointed this out.  If you want to know why I said you sounded immature and a little homophobic, that's why.

 

Why does it matter if all of the party member romances are available to gay players and straight players have access to only two that are all to themselves?  It's not like straight men are only getting two romances.  The whole point of this thread was to talk about Cassandra being bisexual.  If she is, then why do you care if she's available to the same gender or not?

That was what sparked that post.