well thanks I guess... hey if you could convince me that would actually be helpful
since I plan on doing a human mage playthrough and I really liked Cassandra in DA 2
but now I don't know .... No idea who to romance don't want every playthrough to be gay
Why would I want to try and convince you of anything? You asked what we thought and I told you.
Guest_Caladin_*
Dont romance anyone, it only a game, an i doubt you will miss anything that is so important to the story as worth mentioning.
I say one thing though, prob no make sense but here go, when i first met my GF i didnt think much of her, she never stood out, wasnt a top model so to speak, more i got to know her an understand her more beautiful she became.
Maybe game character will grab you same way, quick look as what we have only had at these companions tells noone anything about a person an unless your one of the twats who just point blank refuses to sit n talk to someone due to looks, well prepare to have your eyes opened, can be nice 
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Why would I want to try and convince you of anything? You asked what we thought and I told you.
jeez some people -
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Guest_john_sheparrd_*
Dont romance anyone, it only a game, an i doubt you will miss anything that is so important to the story as worth mentioning.
I say one thing though, prob no make sense but here go, when i first met my GF i didnt think much of her, she never stood out, wasnt a top model so to speak, more i got to know her an understand her more beautiful she became.
Maybe game character will grab you same way, quick look as what we have only had at these companions tells noone anything about a person an unless your one of the twats who just point blank refuses to sit n talk to someone due to looks, well prepare to have your eyes opened, can be nice
hey thanks for the reply yeah sure I will try that out
In the mind of a paranoid mage during these uncertain times pro-circle and pro-chantry are the same thing.
Not at all...
As one of the early posters said, take what you can get they can't cater to everyone. Vivienne is pro-circle, not pro-chantry. We know nothing about Scribbles.
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Enough arguing folks lets be smart and break it off before the Mods bring the ax down. 
Dont romance anyone, it only a game, an i doubt you will miss anything that is so important to the story as worth mentioning.
I say one thing though, prob no make sense but here go, when i first met my GF i didnt think much of her, she never stood out, wasnt a top model so to speak, more i got to know her an understand her more beautiful she became.
Maybe game character will grab you same way, quick look as what we have only had at these companions tells noone anything about a person an unless your one of the twats who just point blank refuses to sit n talk to someone due to looks, well prepare to have your eyes opened, can be nice
I've always enjoyed romancing characters though, it's interesting and adds a certain amount of depth to the game. It's just that this time my character is going to be hated by all romanceable characters of his orientation.
I could also ask the same thing for a straight female Inquisitor who is anti-chantry, I really hope that Cullen is not the only option. That would suck beyond belief. If the Iron Bull is a LI isn't much better especially if your mage, "Now for our anniversary I'm going to put this collar on you, cut out your tongue, and sow your mouth and eyes shut". God I hope Solars is a romance option or I may never play as a straight female Inquisitor.
He just might be more flexible, considering his experience. At the very least, he might be in favor of some serious reform. *shrug*
I understand your concerns, but being anti chantry does not mean being anti circle there needs to be order and supervision, so as long as you do not advocate an idiotic goal such as "Lets free all mages and leave everything unsupervised! for freedom!" i think Vivienne would be right up your alley.
That is of course if my assertions about her are proven correct, if not then i shall be forced to burn down the whole of Theadas in a fit of broody pique.
I agree - I'm thinking that being pro-Circle (having a place to educate young mages so they can at least learn not to accidentally burn down the village because they're having a bad day) does not necessarily equate to being pro-Chantry (the Chantry doesn't have a very good track record atm).
Sometimes, you're forced into a difficult situation. There won't always be a romance available for you depending on the beliefs, gender and sexuality of your Inquisitor.
And I don't really think that's a bad thing. There's more to Bioware games than the character you want to romance in that particular run. Just enjoy the game, save the world and destroy the Chantry!
Food for thought:
We know that Vivienne is Pro-CIRCLE, but I have seen nothing to indicate that she might be Pro-Chantry.
Those two things aren't necessarily hand and hand.
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Food for thought:
We know that Vivienne is Pro-CIRCLE, but I have seen nothing to indicate that she might be Pro-Chantry.
Those two things aren't necessarily hand and hand.
I think they are. The Circle was an institution created by the Chantry, to give mages a place in it (before that, mages were at the mercy of random mage hunters). In a sense, it's another Order of the Chantry. To think of it as separate is more along the lines of the Libertarians.
Just because the Circle was created by the Chantry, it doesn't mean that you can't think of it as a good idea separate from the Chantry. A place where mages can study and research in peace and be left to themselves, with no threat of endangering normal people. Without Circles, how would new mages be educated?
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Just because the Circle was created by the Chantry, it doesn't mean that you can't think of it as a good idea separate from the Chantry. A place where mages can study and research in peace and be left to themselves, with no threat of endangering normal people. Without Circles, how would new mages be educated?
They wouldn't be educated then. They'd just develop all kinds of chaotic or unique powers like hedge mages/Dalish/etc do.. Magic doesn't need a specific education. It's limited by creativity and will. What the Circles teach are just well known/reliable schools of it.
They wouldn't be educated then. They'd just develop all kinds of chaotic or unique powers like hedge mages/Dalish/etc do.. Magic doesn't need a specific education. It's limited by creativity and will. What the Circles teach are just well known/reliable schools of it.
Without the appropriate training, what's to stop these mages from becoming abominations and being the end of their entire village, if they're not able to keep themselves from being possessed? A mage that loses control is one that damns everyone around them to a violent and grizzly death.
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Without the appropriate training, what's to stop these mages from becoming abominations and being the end of their entire village, if they're not able to keep themselves from being possessed? A mage that loses control is one that damns everyone around them to a violent and grizzly death.
I agree. I just don't think that's the only purpose of the Circle. It's a specific kind of education. Not just an education.
edit: I'll let you have the last word btw. I'll cut myself short here.
I agree. I just don't think that's the only purpose of the Circle. It's a specific kind of education. Not just an education.
edit: I'll let you have the last word btw. I'll cut myself short here.
No need to cut yourself short for me. You're right though, the Circles in their current state provide a very pro-Chantry education. But that could be changed if they're ever reformed.
Without the appropriate training, what's to stop these mages from becoming abominations and being the end of their entire village, if they're not able to keep themselves from being possessed? A mage that loses control is one that damns everyone around them to a violent and grizzly death.
Somehow, I don't think Solas is a huge exception to the rule. If anything, I think he's proof that the Circles aren't needed.
Also, see Rivain prior to their Annulment. They were working and living along side mages. Their female mages were called "Seers" and while (as per the Accord) they did not have political power, they were respected as elders. They had a deal with the Chantry; the Chantry leaves their Circle with minimal oversight, and Rivain in turn is to offer their army anytime the Chantry calls upon them. According to every source of lore I've read, things were doing just fine until the Templars showed up and wrecked the place.
Guest_StreetMagic_*
No need to cut yourself short for me. You're right though, the Circles in their current state provide a very pro-Chantry education. But that could be changed if they're ever reformed.
I just forgot it was a romance thread. Didn't want to derail too much.
Somehow, I don't think Solas is a huge exception to the rule. If anything, I think he's proof that the Circles aren't needed.
Right, there are plenty of instances of mages doing fine without circles, and then instances of mages becoming abominations and killing everything around them without circles.
It's not a black and white answer to a very complicated problem.
I think if Scribbles is a romance, she doesn't seem the chantry type, as more of a political leader, but who knows. She might not even be an LI and she might come from the chantry. Honestly, these questions should only be asked when we have more information
Myself, I was just upset she would experiment with it in the middle of Kikrwall who is not exactly demon or magic-free to begin with.
Elven "technology" for the good of elves. But if Merril messes up, who is gonna pay the price? Humans.
Yep. I was furious to learn she was working on that thing in the city. For all her knowledge, she lacks common sense, and failed to take any precautions (which should have been a given, considering the eluvian was already demonstrated to be far more than a simple communication device.)
Right, there are plenty of instances of mages doing fine without circles, and then instances of mages becoming abominations and killing everything around them without circles.
It's not a black and white answer to a very complicated problem.
And instances of the Chantry controlled Circles leading to abominations as well. That's what makes it such a divisive issue for so many people who feel strongly about it, one way or the other. But I feel most people made up their minds some time ago about where they stand on the issue.
As for the original topic, perhaps Dagna might be a love interest for players who are looking for a romantic interest without any ties to the Chantry, as Maria suggested earlier. Her interest in the Circle was academic, she would be the first female dwarven love interest in the history of the franchise, and she is making a return in Inquisition.
If Ariane is among the Dalish in the Dales (which is pure speculation on my part, but I'd imagine she could be tied to Morrigan's "gift" from the conclusion of "Witch Hunt"), it's not inconceivable that she might also be a love interest, or someone playing a similar among the People (especially if it's possible for the player to side with the elves instead of the Orlesian nobles vying for the throne).
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