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Romance wise what if you're a straight male mage who's anti chantry?


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I'm not sure the opinions expressed on BSN should necessarily be interpreted as wholly reflective of everyone who played that DLC. I think she could have been written better, but thought the character and her association with the Qun was intriguing. MOTA as a whole was fantastic.


I liked Tallis, even if I don't like her support of qun. My only issue with MOTA is that walking away and leaving her still leads to helping her protect the qunari.

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The only good thing about Tallis is that the rest of the DLC she was attached to was fun.



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I liked Tallis, even if I don't like her support of qun. My only issue with MOTA is that walking away and leaving her still leads to helping her protect the qunari.

That was strange for me, My characters are always strongly opposed to the Qun but I still liked her, guess she represented some of the more redeemable qualities.



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For all those saying that sometimes you just don't  aways get something tailored to your wants. I agree on this point. However I think it is a poor decision by bioware to ignore a widely held view in this regard. As I said earlier, things will always slip through the cracks however those issues should be less important than an ideological view that holds very real repercussions in the current world state.

 

I get that you won't always get what you want with a love interest, but it is a poor choice by bioware to deny male characters who wish to romance a female the option of an anti-chantry love interest.  This is not something of small importance like personalites and looks. It is a world-view that is featured prominently in this world. The only options a male character who wishes to romance a female have is those who are pro-chantry/return to the status quo.

 

So far, the only possible interest (who is the only non-human female companion by the way) who would support a revolution of the world status quo is sera.

 

It's not that I'm disappointed that my own preference is ignored though I am. Rather it is the fact that the only love interests for males pursuing a female do not offer much variety. They all support the status-quo. They all are in one spectrum of the world. To give an analogy, it would be like if all the males in the world were against a woman's right to vote. In this case, all the female companions in the game that are romanceable are against the complete freedom of mages.

 

Dragon Age; Origins did it right.  Morrigan was one end of the spectrum. Leliana the other. Alistair was on one end of the Spectrum. Zevran did not care.

 

Its not about not "getting what I want." Rather it's a disappointment in a lack of variety. All the females can fall into one category.



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Personally, I'd wait until we actually have a complete list of LIs before declaring straight males (or any player character, for that matter) have no access to X



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Personally, I'd wait until we actually have a complete list of LIs before declaring straight males (or any player character, for that matter) have no access to X

Away with your common sense lad!

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Personally, I'd wait until we actually have a complete list of LIs before declaring straight males (or any player character, for that matter) have no access to X

 

I agree, but so far what they have revealed so far does not give me hope. I'm hoping for a well developed non-companion romance with Scribbles or maybe someone else.



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I suggest the "straight male" wait to hear who the romance options all are before jumping to conclusions.

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I suggest the "straight male" wait to hear who the romance options all are before jumping to conclusions.

 

While all the romance options have not been revealed, all the companion possibilities have been. While it is my understanding that the NPC advisors will have a good story arc, it is certainly not the same as them being with you. Furthermore, there is only one possibility left. The other females are all huddled on one team rather than spread around to offer variety.



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Dragon Age; Origins did it right.  Morrigan was one end of the spectrum. Leliana the other. Alistair was on one end of the Spectrum. Zevran did not care.

Alistair was an ex-templar that wanted to get out and join the wardens. He was pretty skeptical in any dialog concerning religion and he's fairly accepting of mages and elves. He speaks very critically of the templars. He was never a Cullen-like figure that represented the Chantry or templars. I don't think he's "the other side of the issue" at all. Zevran and Alistair both didn't really care about world issues, when you really boiled it down. Alistair went along with basically whatever you wanted with usually only minor complaint, at the most. The sum of his morality is basically just "don't be an obviously evil jerk and hurt innocent people or go blood magic demon crazy". 



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Alistair was an ex-templar that wanted to get out and join the wardens. He was pretty skeptical in any dialog concerning religion and he's fairly accepting of mages and elves. He speaks very critically of the templars. He was never a Cullen-like figure that represented the Chantry or templars. I don't think he's "the other side of the issue" at all. Zevran and Alistair both didn't really care about world issues, when you really boiled it down. Alistair went along with basically whatever you wanted with usually only minor complaint, at the most. The sum of his morality is basically just "don't be an obviously evil jerk and hurt innocent people or go blood magic demon crazy". 

 

This is correct. I worded that sentence poorly, but nonetheless the sentiment remains the same. I can see Cassandra or Vivienne speaking out strongly against a mage-freedom type.



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This is correct. I worded that sentence poorly, but nonetheless the sentiment remains the same. I can see Cassandra or Vivienne speaking out strongly against a mage-freedom type.

Fair enough. Maybe the yet unnamed political advisor will be more moderate? One would think she likely would be, if we're to expect her to deal with all factions. 



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Most of the important clashes with Alistair to me boils down to whether you like about being a Warden or not. And whether you suck Duncan's dick or not. I clash with him on that more than I do morality. His morality is fine. He's a good guy.



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Alistair is Andrastian and does have some vaguely templar-esque sentiments over the course of the game I think, but he's not really on the end of a pro-templar spectrum. Actually I saw a pretty funny playthrough where someone brought Morrigan, Alistair and Sten to Redcliffe and stumbled onto Jowan. It resulted in 3 different extremes of opinion on n how to handle a blood mage. Being in the middle of two extreme's Alistair's dialogue seemed to awkwardly shift from arguing for or against killing him depending on who he was arguing against.



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Alistair is Andrastian and does have some vaguely templar-esque sentiments over the course of the game I think, but he's not really on the end of a pro-templar spectrum. Actually I saw a pretty funny playthrough where someone brought Morrigan, Alistair and Sten to Redcliffe and stumbled onto Jowan. It resulted in 3 different extremes of opinion on n how to handle a blood mage. Being in the middle of two extreme's Alistair's dialogue seemed to awkwardly shift from arguing for or against killing him depending on who he was arguing against.

 

Yeah, I remember playing with that combo once. Leliana also has her own spin there, about Jowan deserving redemption (like herself).



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Fair enough. Maybe the yet unnamed political advisor will be more moderate? One would think she likely would be, if we're to expect her to deal with all factions. 

I hope so. Just wish they had made Sera bi.  As a Dalish Elf who hates shems...hearing that Sera is not available made me sad.

 

Nonetheless I know I've been complaining, but the game itself does look amazing so far. Who knows...maybe I could get a "rivalmance" that actually makes sense to me with Cassandra going. Either way, Bioware is really outdoing themselves and I'm not going to let one part of the game that I believe is done poorly prevent me from enjoying a great experience.


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