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Romance wise what if you're a straight male mage who's anti chantry?


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I could also ask the same thing for a straight female Inquisitor who is anti-chantry, I really hope that Cullen is not the only option. That would suck beyond belief. If the Iron Bull is a LI isn't much better especially if your mage, "Now for our anniversary I'm going to put this collar on you, cut out your tongue, and sow your mouth and eyes shut". God I hope Solars is a romance option or I may never play as a straight female Inquisitor.



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Pretty sure can romance someone.



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The title really says it all. I suppose there's still the possibility of the scribe girl or a rivalmance with Cassandra but still.

 

You just described my exact situation. I always play male mages that are pro-Tevinter, anti-chantry, pro-Old Gods, and pro-Morrigan :)

 

I think that leaves me with a rather alienated party. If I romance anyone at all, it will probably have to be a rivalmance with Cassandra.


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It does seem like Bioware isn't giving us a lot of good options. 



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To be honest i would prefer party like in Bg 2 where there was a lot characters and everyone could create party that fits them.



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I suspect all three advisers are Chantry members, given what we know about Cullen and Leliana, and the Inquisition was formed prior to the encounter with the protagonist. It doesn't seem as though there are any female romantic interests who have no ties to the Andrastian Chantry (if the player is roleplaying as a male protagonist).

 

Artificer Dagna may be a possibility, but that's pure speculation at the moment.

 

I don't think that means scribbles is necessarily a Chantry member, she does handle finance and trade after all. She's likely to be Andrastian but maybe not, we don't really know. I seem to remember a dev saying she was very devoted to the Inquisitor. That if that really tells us much though



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I don't think that means scribbles is necessarily a Chantry member, she does handle finance and trade after all. She's likely to be Andrastian but maybe not, we don't really know. I seem to remember a dev saying she was very devoted to the Inquisitor. That if that really tells us much though

 

 That was a Monty Python Reference. It doesn't tell anything.



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Why can you not love someone who might disagree with you a little bit?


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Why can you not love someone who might disagree with you a little bit?

When you disagree a little there is no problem when you disagree a lot there is no way that relationship would work... if you are anti-chantry for example you would hate everything that pro-chantry li stands for so well...



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I understand your concerns, but being anti chantry does not mean being anti circle there needs to be order and supervision, so as long as you do not advocate an idiotic goal such as "Lets free all mages and leave everything unsupervised! for freedom!" i think Vivienne would be right up your alley.

 

That is of course if my assertions about her are proven correct, if not then i shall be forced to burn down the whole of Theadas in a fit of broody pique.


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When you disagree a little there is no problem when you disagree a lot there is no way that relationship would work... if you are anti-chantry for example you would hate everything that pro-chantry li stands for so well...

 

Mmm. I personally disagree with this. I think it provides opportunity for multiple interesting romance plots. Such as one trying to convince the other (possibly succeeding) regarding their point of view, or perhaps a fiery relationship of 'I hate you, now kiss me'. 

 

Romance arcs are more interesting to me when they are a little outside the fairy tale box.


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I understand your concerns, but being anti chantry does not mean being anti circle there needs to be order and supervision, so as long as you do not advocate an idiot goal such as "Lets free all mages and leave everything unsupervised! for freedom!" i think Vivienne would be right up your alley.

 

That is of course if my assertions about her are proven correct, if not then i shall be forced to burn down the whole of Theadas in a fit of broody pique.

Welcome to the forums!  

 

With TKS, well...He hates mages, all of them, with a burning passion.  He's advocated killing them all off more than once (down to every last man, woman and baby,) so I doubt that Vivienne will be to his taste.  :P


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There's always your hand :D

 

It even glows a glorious green.  


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Why can you not love someone who might disagree with you a little bit?


This.

On Origins I've roleplayed an atheist Male Human Mage who still fell in love with the pious Leliana, who belived the Maker gave her vision..

Also, based on previous DA games, I don't think companions will stick to their beliefs throghout the whole game, specially if they happen to be LIs. After all you could harden Leliana and Alistair on Origins and in DA 2 - if the rivalry path was taken - Isabela says she is willing to change for the Champion and Merrill can be dissuaded from fixing the Eluvian, up to the point she actually breaks it herself, which didn't even require a romance.
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Welcome to the forums!  

 

With TKS, well...He hates mages, all of them, with a burning passion.  He's advocated killing them all off more than once (down to every last man, woman and baby,) so I doubt that Vivienne will be to his taste.   :P

 

Ah a shame,though i cant see how killing them all off is practical considering Theadas medieval state (technology speaking) let alone the fact that mages will continue to be born either way.

 

The only way to stop that is to somehow destroy the fade which would in turn make everyone tranquil...though i assume i'm not the first poster to point that out to him



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Ah a shame,though i cant see how killing them all off is practical considering Theadas medieval state (technology speaking) let alone the fact that mages will continue to be born either way.

 

The only way to stop that is to somehow destroy the fade which would in turn make everyone tranquil...though i assume i'm not the first poster to point that out to him

Far from it and it's not a debating worth getting into in this thread.  :P



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Fair enough, i shall proceed to redirect my post at the poster who started this thread.

I understand your concerns, but being anti chantry does not mean being anti circle there needs to be order and supervision, so as long as you do not advocate an idiotic goal such as "Lets free all mages and leave everything unsupervised! for freedom!" i think Vivienne would be right up your alley.

 

That is of course if my assertions about her are proven correct, if not then i shall be forced to burn down the whole of Theadas in a fit of broody pique.

 

May it provide some comfort.

 

Welcome to the forums!  

 

Oh and thank you for welcoming me Natashina, my manners seemed to have been napping at the time.. i always tell them that they need get more sleep.


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Mmm. I personally disagree with this. I think it provides opportunity for multiple interesting romance plots. Such as one trying to convince the other (possibly succeeding) regarding their point of view, or perhaps a fiery relationship of 'I hate you, now kiss me'. 

 

Romance arcs are more interesting to me when they are a little outside the fairy tale box.

In first place peoples with opposite point of views would dislike each other (and no im not saying here about different views only opposite) freedom fighter (unless hypocrite) never would like slaver. I hate you relationships never work pretty much they base on sex and live short time unless it is cheap fiction.

 

 

This.

On Origins I've roleplayed an atheist Male Human Mage who still fell in love with the pious Leliana, who belived the Maker gave her vision..

Also, based on previous DA games, I don't think companions will stick to their beliefs throghout the whole game, specially if they happen to be LIs. After all you could harden Leliana and Alistair on Origins and in DA 2 - if the rivalry path was taken - Isabela says she is willing to change for the Champion and Merrill can be dissuaded from fixing the Eluvian, up to the point she actually breaks it herself, which didn't even require a romance.

Well to be honest how many times game let you disaprove chantry or express that you don't belive sure few times and that is fine but could you act against chantry no. This time it is more political.

 

 

 

Welcome to the forums!  

 

With TKS, well...He hates mages, all of them, with a burning passion.  He's advocated killing them all off more than once (down to every last man, woman and baby,) so I doubt that Vivienne will be to his taste.   :P

 

Ehh i don't hate mages but i guess when peoples think that someone come up with solution to kill someone it must be hate... simple mages cause too many problems and too big problems when they barely help with anything not worth it simple pros and cons. In fact i even liked morrigan (but i think she is bi***) and even fine with dorian as far but i still want put them down.



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This was one of the reasons(the other being option of racial choice) why i initially assumed Sera would be a bi option, given the other 2 female companions seem closely aligned in stances. I'll be interested to see how it eventually works in terms of range of choice out but will always prefer DA2 ambiguous open approach which was vastly superior to this arbitrary gating.



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In first place peoples with opposite point of views would dislike each other (and no im not saying here about different views only opposite) freedom fighter (unless hypocrite) never would like slaver. I hate you relationships never work pretty much they base on sex and live short time unless it is cheap fiction.

 

Not in my experience, but I respect your point of view.


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It does seem like Bioware isn't giving us a lot of good options.


Yep.

They're giving us great options.
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In first place peoples with opposite point of views would dislike each other (and no im not saying here about different views only opposite) freedom fighter (unless hypocrite) never would like slaver. I hate you relationships never work pretty much they base on sex and live short time unless it is cheap fiction.


Well to be honest how many times game let you disaprove chantry or express that you don't belive sure few times and that is fine but could you act against chantry no. This time it is more political.




Ehh i don't hate mages but i guess when peoples think that someone come up with solution to kill someone it must be hate... simple mages cause too many problems and too big problems when they barely help with anything not worth it simple pros and cons. In fact i even liked morrigan (but i think she is bi***) and even fine with dorian as far but i still want put them down.


Er.. the game actually does give you the chance to express desbelief in the Maker.. you can tell Leliana when romancing her not to bring the Maker into the relationship. Also you can tell Wynne that she is full of rubish when goes on about with "The Maker has placed us all here for a reason and it's fighting it that causes so much anguish".. wheter you see it as desbelief or not doesnt change the fact that desbelief in the Maker is what led my character to say those lines to Wynne and Leliana.
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Romance-wise, what if you were a gay male mage who hated elves in Origins?

The Pearl.



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Er.. the game actually does give you the chance to express desbelief in the Maker.. you can tell Leliana when romancing her not to bring the Maker into the relationship. Also you can tell Wynne that she is full of rubish when goes on about with "The Maker has placed us all here for a reason and it's fighting it that causes so much anguish".. wheter you see it as desbelief or not doesnt change the fact that desbelief in the Maker is what led my character to say those lines to Wynne and Leliana.

Did i said game doesn't what i said that you can't openly oppose or work against chantry if you could you could count on disapproval from leliana or even she could leave you like with ashes (closest thing you can do is agree with alistair in circle when chantry topic cames out).Besides you can't tell that you don't belive in maker when leliana is around.

 

Wait there is one option for mage to disagree with chantry in lothering it cost 5 approval from leliana.