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Romance wise what if you're a straight male mage who's anti chantry?


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You can also blame Duncan for Merathari's behavior.

 

Perhaps if his dumb ass never said it was Tevinter to begin with, Merrill might not have been so discouraged, and not desperate enough to turn to blood magic. They might've found another way together.



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Well this argument is circular and tiresome so I'm done.

 

I will just say that Bioware has (very intentionally) made the issue of blood magic and possession a very grey area. How to deal with it is not an easy answer, which is good writing on their part, but based on my experiences in these games I very much lean more towards blood magic tends to lead to corruption and possession so it's best to avoid it, and anyone who practices it and implies they have it under control just comes off to me as a junkie saying "I can quit whenever I want" not realizing how under it's control they really are.  



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And before anyone throws the lame excuse, "oh, but everyone turns against you!", remember that Merrill was an mage, while your companions were mundanes with no experience resisting demons whatsoever. This makes her more accountable then all the others.

 

Merrill being a mage doesn't excuse the simple fact that the quest railroads everyone into turning on Hawke after a few seconds of being offered something by one of the two spirits vying for control over Feynriel. Are we also using Cullen handwaving Hawke's warning about Anders' plot against the Kirkwall Chantry against him?



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Why are we slogging through the same Merrill sludge again in a thread that has little if anything to do with Merrill?



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Why are we slogging through the same Merrill sludge again in a thread that has little if anything to do with Merrill?

Because the actual thread has virtually no possible answer. We don't know enough to deal with the hypothetical.



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Why are we slogging through the same Merrill sludge again in a thread that has little if anything to do with Merrill?

 

Well, Merrill was technically a love interest with no direct ties to the Chantry of Andraste, but we can move on. Back to the topic of a love interest who isn't tied to the Andrastian Chantry in Inquisition (for a straight male Inquisitor)? With all sincerity, I don't imagine there is one, unless Dagna is available to romance, or there's someone aside from the Andrastian advisers we know about.



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There are options, but I doubt very much for specific group the OP wanted (straight male). It's unfortunate.



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There are options, but I doubt very much for specific group the OP wanted (straight male). It's unfortunate.

I doubt Vivienne is truly pro-Chantry.



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Why are we slogging through the same Merrill sludge again in a thread that has little if anything to do with Merrill?

 

The most natural course for any thread is to end up being about Merrill.



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The most natural course for any thread is to end up being about Merrill.

 

Or Loghain.


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Well, Merrill was technically a love interest with no direct ties to the Chantry of Andraste, but we can move on. Back to the topic of a love interest who isn't tied to the Andrastian Chantry for Inquisition (for a straight male Inquisitor)? With all sincerity, I don't imagine there is one, unless Dagna is available to romance, or there's someone aside from the Andrastian advisers we know about.

 

It would not be unprecedented for this to be the case.  The opposite was certainly true in DA2.



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Or Loghain.

 

Or Anders....



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I doubt Vivienne is truly pro-Chantry.

 

Unless she's a Loyalist, which may be what the OP is considering due to her pro-Circle status, and her opposition to the mage struggle for autonomy.



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I doubt Vivienne is truly pro-Chantry.


If she thought the Circle could exist independently without the Chantry deciding take over, I bet she'd be all for that.

Now that I think about it, if the Inquisition is powerful enough, it can claim that the Circles are being monitored by it and remove Chantry interference. I wonder if that's her agenda.

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I doubt Vivienne is truly pro-Chantry.

 

My impression so far is that Vivienne is pro-Vivienne.  The Circles just provide an easy structure within which to rule.



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My impression so far is that Vivienne is pro-Vivienne.  The Circles just provide an easy structure within which to rule.

People here seem to think she's going to be some goody-two shoes, black and younger Wynne clone.

 

From what little we've read about her, that hardly seems to be the case. If all the circles fall, I'm sure she's adapt and find some other situation to benefit her. Not blindly attack the Inquisitor to get cut down like a dumb sow. *cough* Leliana, Wynne *cough*



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People here seem to think she's going to be some goody-two shoes, black and younger Wynne clone.

 

From what little we've read about her, that hardly seems to be the case. If all the circles fall, I'm sure she's adapt and find some other situation to benefit her. Not blindly attack the Inquisitor to get cut down like a dumb sow. *cough* Leliana, Wynne *cough*

Really? My impression of her was of Morrigan, but worse.



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My impression so far is that Vivienne is pro-Vivienne.  

 

Yeah, that's more like it.

 

If she thought the Circle could exist independently without the Chantry deciding take over, I bet she'd be all for that.

Now that I think about it, if the Inquisition is powerful enough, it can claim that the Circles are being monitored by it and remove Chantry interference. I wonder if that's her agenda.

 

It could be...she might want you to appoint her as Head of the Mage Stuffs (whatever the new Circle would be called).


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If she thought the Circle could exist independently without the Chantry deciding take over, I bet she'd be all for that.

Now that I think about it, if the Inquisition is powerful enough, it can claim that the Circles are being monitored by it and remove Chantry interference. I wonder if that's her agenda.

 

I think she just doesn't want to slum it with the mages it. Her profile says that the other mages attempted recruitment gets in the way of what she wants. 



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I can't imagine why the concern in the OP is such a big issue? Surely every demographic doesn't deserve a 'romance option' (quite sickening way to see a character in a video game really) tailored to their real life sexuality, even if they may be the majority real-life demographic. The last game screwed everyone over catering to the somewhat strange idea that players can't tolerate having their preferred character not romancing their Hawke (and so making everyone bisexual, which is a laughably bad design choice and quite immersion-breaking actually). I can understand a fictional universe where everyone is bisexual, but given DA: Origins didn't have this feature, it just comes across as utterly bizzare.

Earlier in RPGs 'romances' used to be fun diversions, and that's all they really should be, albeit in a few cases, when correctly done, they can significantly contribute to the quality of the story. I am quite glad they are returning to believable or sensible preferences. I'm sure Bioware knows better than me how this sort of thing will affect sales, but it kind of ruins a character to force them all to be bisexual, so that everyone can romance them by clicking a heart button. It would be a bit more refreshing if romances actually required something other than just picking carefully designated buttons.



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Really? My impression of her was of Morrigan, but worse.

 

Yet, the dev said she was the opposite of Morrigan and that she get along with Cassandra who is a goody-two-shoes all about protecting the helpless...as long as it is practical to do so.



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In my opinion Leliana is the most beautiful of all the females we have seen so far... and we can't romance her

I mean she looks even better than in DA:Origins and DA:II

And then we got Cassandra who looked alright in DA:II but now looks ugly (in my opinion)

What do you guys think?


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In my opinion Leliana is the most beautiful of all the females we have seen so far... and we can't romance her

I mean she looks even better than in DA:Origins and DA:II

And then we got Cassandra who looked alright in DA:II but now looks ugly (in my opinion)

What do you guys think?

 

I disagree about Cassandra, but could not agree more about Leliana.  In my opinion, she's the best looking character we've seen so far.  Part of that may be because we can see so little of her hair under the hood.  I suspect her hair is just as terribly rendered as everyone else's.



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I think you're full of **** up to your ears, but are entitled to your opinion.

 

well thanks I guess... hey if you could convince me that would actually be helpful

since I plan on doing a human mage playthrough and I really liked Cassandra in DA 2

but now I don't know .... No idea who to romance don't want every playthrough to be gay

 



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I disagree about Cassandra, but could not agree more about Leliana.  In my opinion, she's the best looking character we've seen so far.  Part of that may be because we can see so little of her hair under the hood.  I suspect her hair is just as terribly rendered as everyone else's.

 

I suspect she will probably never or rarely take it off throughout the game.