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[Nefla]

I'm not sharing my opinion, I just gave a short summary of how each romance went and how different each one was from the other. The idea is if you don't like this one's story but you might like this one's story etc... And they're all well written. You don't like any of them, fine. Straight Females didn't have as many options or as much variety and that was the point of my post so I apologize for any misunderstanding. 

I have done all of their romances. When I play BW games I play multiple times and do everything. I feel that the male LI's are the same level of unique to each other as the female ones so I don't feel like either group is getting the shaft (other than ME3) others may feel like both groups got the shaft but I feel like they're on the same level of quality (my personal preferences aside).

[OrayMoor]

I know you disagree. That was the reason I offered my differing opinion: To show that not everyone feels the same as you and not everyone is dissatisfied. I'm just curious, if you haven't liked any romance option so far, what kind of person do you want to romance?

 

Neither of our opinions is objective, It's an opinion. You feel those characters are interesting, I don't. I've seen the "defrosting ice queen" the "sweet girl next door" the "sexy vixen" etc...many times and it's old to me. Where you find Leliana's romance endearing, I find it creepy, etc...

It's not true I did like some of the romances. I liked Garrus, Liara, Tali, Samantha, Morrigan, Mirranda, San Lian, I thought Johani was very sweet too. I think that Bioware is better at writing female characters.

 

I said in the beiginning that I want a guy who is genius in what he and very wise. I would also like him to have a bit of a cold personality and to be funny but in a smart kind of way. He can Have a dark past as long as he dosent talk about it a lot. Do you know Itachi uchiha from Naruto? Kind of like him...

 

Alistair is naive, immature, and uses his goofy humor as a self-defense mechanism.  He's generally good natured, but is easily petulant if you disagree with him.  Plus, you can 'harden' his personality to be more logical and decisive and less emotional.  Once in the romance, he's a romantic, but it's less confident and more awkward and adolescent.

 

Kaidan is more of a "classic" leading man for women.  He's genuinely nice, but he's also got an opinion.  His sense of humor is more wry.  He's smart and often offers a counterpoint to Shepard.  He's supportive of Shepard, but will also challenge him/her if he disagrees with him/her.  He's also got a romantic side, but is more confident and mature.

 

Carth is bitter, defensive, and aggressive at first.  He has major trust issues and it takes quite some work from Revan to de-ice him.  He's definitely more emotional than logical.  He's got highs and lows throughout the relationship, going from being romantic and supportive, to aggressive and confrontational.  He also suffers from Carth Syndrome, so a bulk of his romance is around his getting over his dead wife.

 

Sky is a bit like a combination of Kaidan and Carth.  He's supportive and "nice" with a sense of humor, but he suffers HARD from Carth Syndrome (having not just a dead wife, but also a dead daughter).  His romance, however, is less about "learning to trust again" and more about "learning to let go".  Even though he's the least "original" of these guys, he actually came before Kaidan, so it's more accurate to say that Kaidan is a bit like Sky minus Carth.

 

Jacob is nothing like these other guys.  He's not really emotional at all.  I tried doing this romance once with one of my femShep's and it was pretty darn boring.  It starts being pretty one-sided (with Shep being the aggressor), and I never really got the impression that Jacob was "in love" so much as "hooking up with" Shep.  He's super professional and not emotional at all.  In fact, it was like trying to get blood from a stone.  To me, he's more of a supporting character than a leading man because he's just not that interesting and doesn't give much beyond the one questline with his father.

 

I think that these guys are all different.  Their personalities are different.  Their storylines are different.  Their romance arcs are different.   

 

Ok so, I disagree with most of it. many of the female romance go this way, not alway in the same order:

 

You talk to the guy and he lets you know by accident that they like you.

 

You have the talk of we don't want our romance to get in the middel of the mission, or that they don't want to heart you, or you'll be better off withought them.

 

They tell you about thier dark past, which they all seem to have:

Alister: the kings bastered wes sent to bording school because his uncels wife didn't like him/

Sky: his doughter and wife were killed.

Carth: his wife got killed.

Fenris: was a slave.

Anders: became an abomination

Jacob: saved the citadel and never got any thanks for it.

Kidan: was sent to a bording school with an evil teacher.

 

All of them except jacob (I think) chanllenge the protagonists belives.

Alister with Logain, Isold and Johan.

Sky with the water dragon. 

Carth if you becoume a sith.

Anders if your pro templar.

Fenris if your pro mage.

Kaiden with whenever you think he challnges us.

 

They are all brave.

Carth gos after you to the star forge to bring you back to the light side.

Jacob volentire to go through the tunell

sky gos to spy on the enemy and get ijurd in the prosess.

If you romance Alister and dont to the ritual with morrigan he will stab the dragon instead of you.

Kaidan tells you to get Ashely.

 

I'll update it if I think of anything more.

I don't find any of them funny except maybe Alister. What might make them seem funny is the bretern with the other much funnier characters.

 

The way you describe Alisters Romance souds just like Garrus romance.

 

Also, would you mind Anwering another qustion? What are thier hobbis? What do they like and dislike to do in thier past time?

[daveliam]

I have done all of their romances. When I play BW games I play multiple times and do everything. I feel that the male LI's are the same level of unique to each other as the female ones so I don't feel like either group is getting the shaft (other than ME3) others may feel like both groups got the shaft but I feel like they're on the same level of quality (my personal preferences aside).

 

I think that ME 3 was really the issue here.  I had rarely heard the complaint that the male LI's were substantively worse than the female LI's until ME 3 came along and mucked it up all.  Yeah, there were a few people who complained about ME 2 being mostly aliens for the ladies, but outside of that, not really any general "straight females are getting the shaft" comments about the quality of the romance (not quantity, which is different).  Again, if DA: I goes the ME 3 route, then yeah, I'll side eye Bioware.  But we don't really have any evidence to suggest that at this point. 

 

It's almost certain that straight women will get Cullen (the most popular male LI, even if he is an NPC).  It's highly likely that they will get Iron Bull, who (to me) seems like a really interesting character.  And I suspect that they will also probably get either Solas or Blackwall.  I think it's a bit too early to be convinced that it will happen again.

[daveliam]

It's not true I did like some of the romances. I liked Garrus, Liara, Tali, Samantha, Morrigan, Mirranda, San Lian, I thought Johani was very sweet too. I think that Bioware is better at writing female characters.

 

I said in the beiginning that I want a guy who is genius in what he and very wise. I would also like him to have a bit of a cold personality and to be funny but in a smart kind of way. He can Have a dark past as long as he dosent talk about it a lot. Do you know Itachi uchiha from Naruto? Kind of like him...

 

 

Ok so, I disagree with most of it. many of the female romance go this way, not alway in the same order:

 

You talk to the guy and he lets you know by accident that they like you.

 

You have the talk of we don't want our romance to get in the middel of the mission, or that they don't want to heart you, or you'll be better off withought them.

 

They tell you about thier dark past, which they all seem to have:

Alister: the kings bastered wes sent to bording school because his uncels wife didn't like him/

Sky: his doughter and wife were killed.

Carth: his wife got killed.

Fenris: was a slave.

Anders: became an abomination

Jacob: saved the citadel and never got any thanks for it.

Kidan: was sent to a bording school with an evil teacher.

 

All of them except jacob (I think) chanllenge the protagonists belives.

Alister with Logain, Isold and Johan.

Sky with the water dragon. 

Carth if you becoume a sith.

Anders if your pro templar.

Fenris if your pro mage.

Kaiden with whenever you think he challnges us.

 

They are all brave.

Carth gos after you to the star forge to bring you back to the light side.

Jacob volentire to go through the tunell

sky gos to spy on the enemy and get ijurd in the prosess.

If you romance Alister and dont to the ritual with morrigan he will stab the dragon instead of you.

Kaidan tells you to get Ashely.

 

I'll update it if I think of anything more.

I don't find any of them funny except maybe Alister. What might make them seem funny is the bretern with the other much funnier characters.

 

The way you describe Alisters Romance souds just like Garrus romance.

 

Also, would you mind Anwering another qustion? What are thier hobbis? What do they like and dislike to do in thier past time?

 

You are just describing Bioware romances in general.  It's the exact same thing with female characters.  Literally, none of this doesn't apply to the female LI's too.

[DisturbedJim83]

I have to say as a straight male first time I saw Sera I thought great I can have a straight male character romancing a female elf that isn't some constantly sad bloodmage,only to find out she's a lesbian sigh.

 

I'm all for inclusiveness,just hate being put into a situation "to romance person X your character must be race Y and sexuality Z" even though it does add more individuality to the characters.I suppose I'll have to make do with Scribbles if that's even a option.

[ebevan91]

I think that ME 3 was really the issue here.  I had rarely heard the complaint that the male LI's were substantively worse than the female LI's until ME 3 came along and mucked it up all.  Yeah, there were a few people who complained about ME 2 being mostly aliens for the ladies, but outside of that, not really any general "straight females are getting the shaft" comments about the quality of the romance (not quantity, which is different).  Again, if DA: I goes the ME 3 route, then yeah, I'll side eye Bioware.  But we don't really have any evidence to suggest that at this point. 

 

It's almost certain that straight women will get Cullen (the most popular male LI, even if he is an NPC).  It's highly likely that they will get Iron Bull, who (to me) seems like a really interesting character.  And I suspect that they will also probably get either Solas or Blackwall.  I think it's a bit too early to be convinced that it will happen again.

 

Is that supposed to be an oxymoron? 

 

 

I have to say as a straight male first time I saw Sera I thought great I can have a straight male character romancing a female elf that isn't some constantly sad bloodmage,only to find out she's a lesbian sigh.

 

I'm all for inclusiveness,just hate being put into a situation "to romance person X your character must be race Y and sexuality Z" even though it does add more individuality to the characters.I suppose I'll have to make do with Scribbles if that's even a option.

 

I'm really not looking forward to the race-restricted romances. They make things very situational.

[OrayMoor]

You are just describing Bioware romances in general.  It's the exact same thing with female characters.  Literally, none of this doesn't apply to the female LI's too.

 

What dark past did Tali, Morrigan, Princes Sun Lian, Merrlil (She mainly have dark presnt and future), Liara, have? Its Ok for some of them to have a dark past, but it gets really annoying when all of them have one.

 

Morrigan, Mirranda, Jack, Isabela and maybe even ashley don't tell the protagonist they like him by mistake.

 

When do the female do something brave for the protagonist?

 

What hobbis do the guys have? I can tell you all about the femals hobbis...

[Lukas Trevelyan]

I have done all of their romances. When I play BW games I play multiple times and do everything. I feel that the male LI's are the same level of unique to each other as the female ones so I don't feel like either group is getting the shaft (other than ME3) others may feel like both groups got the shaft but I feel like they're on the same level of quality (my personal preferences aside).

Problem is you're excluding ME3 when in fact Mass Effect should be taken as a universe at this point, as one whole game.

and in DA2 both males had pretty much the same progression except one hates templars and one hates mages. 

[daveliam]

What dark past did Tali, Morrigan, Princes Sun Lian, Merrlil (She mainly have dark presnt and future), Liara, have? Its Ok for some of them to have a dark past, but it gets really annoying when all of them have one.

 

Morrigan, Mirranda, Jack, Isabela and maybe even ashley don't tell the protagonist they like them by mistake.

 

When do the female do something brave for the protagonist?

 

What hobbis do the guys have? I can tell you all about the femals hobbis...

 

I'm not going to both debating with you on this.  You see it one way.  I see it as another.  Both are subjective.  Just don't state that your opinions are facts, because they are not.

[Sheepie Crusher]

I think Bioware needs to to start thinking outside the box they've written themselves into

 

a lot of their romances can be summed up in

-Cute nerd girl

-Exotic Femme Fatal

-Boring nice guy

-An angsty' sometimes emo dude with a troubled past

 

 

and they also need to stop their standart formula of talking to him twice and then sex

[Felya87]

just one thing: after BG2, to me seems the only female LI who had lost someone who loved was Jack. All the others female LI never had a loved dead spouse/boyfriend/girlfriend, ot at least one who was a good person. Am I right?

 

Leliana had Marjolane who was a...bad person. to say the least. Isabela an abusive dead husband.

Jack is the exception to the rule because she had a boyfriend who died, but she didn't even seem to love him all that much. she was mostly shocked about the fact someone could really love her.

and the others...well, there was never a ex.

 

the "Dead Spouse Syndrome" is a repetitive thing in male LIs. while not so much in the female ones. and if there is, usually, in the last games the ex where always terrible persons that cast a "knight in shining armor" over the male PC in the eyes of the LI.

while females PC (or gay) always had to feel like the "second choice" or at least have an inferiority complex with the dead lost loved one. (I felt it quite a lot with both Thane and Carth)

 

It's becoming a little tiresome now, having the same pattern game after game.

I'm not sayng NO Stan mode to characters with a past love. But it would be refreshing having in male LIs too someone who had a bad experience with a girlfriend (or boyfriend) but not because s/he died horribly and he will forever have this great pain inside and the PC have to became a psich to have a romance. 

I would be ok with something like Garrus: he had his adventure, and is not shy to tell about it. Or simply not the "perfect as heaven ex who died so the Li will go with the PC to erase his pain".

[daveliam]

just one thing: after BG2, to me seems the only female LI who had lost someone who loved was Jack. All the others female LI never had a loved dead spouse/boyfriend/girlfriend, ot at least one who was a good person. Am I right?

 

Leliana had Marjolane who was a...bad person. to say the least. Isabela an abusive dead husband.

Jack is the exception to the rule because she had a boyfriend who died, but she didn't even seem to love him all that much. she was mostly shocked about the fact someone could really love her.

and the others...well, there was never a ex.

 

the "Dead Spouse Syndrome" is a repetitive thing in male LIs. while not so much in the female ones. and if there is, usually, in the last games the ex where always terrible persons that cast a "knight in shining armor" over the male PC in the eyes of the LI.

while females PC (or gay) always had to feel like the "second choice" or at least have an inferiority complex with the dead lost loved one. (I felt it quite a lot with both Thane and Carth)

 

It's becoming a little tiresome now, having the same pattern game after game.

I'm not sayng NO Stan mode to characters with a past love. But it would be refreshing having in male LIs too someone who had a bad experience with a girlfriend (or boyfriend) but not because s/he died horribly and he will forever have this great pain inside and the PC have to became a psich to have a romance. 

I would be ok with something like Garrus: he had his adventure, and is not shy to tell about it. Or simply not the "perfect as heaven ex who died so the Li will go with the PC to erase his pain".

 

See?  This I agree with.  This is a real pattern in the LI's.  "Carth Syndrome" is a real thing and it sucks.  It's not really a "straight female player" thing exclusively though as much as a male LI thing, like you say.  Jaheira was actually the first and Steve was the last and neither of them were for straight gals.  However, yeah, I think I would definitely be sick of it if I were a straight gal after having Carth, Sky, and Thane in three out of five games.

[Felya87]

See?  This I agree with.  This is a real pattern in the LI's.  "Carth Syndrome" is a real thing and it sucks.  It's not really a "straight female player" thing exclusively though as much as a male LI thing, like you say.  Jaheira was actually the first and Steve was the last and neither of them were for straight gals.  However, yeah, I think I would definitely be sick of it if I were a straight gal after having Carth, Sky, and Thane in three out of five games.

that's what I think. is not "only" a problem of straight female players, but more a problem with the male LI. the dead spouse syndrome is usually reserved for male LIs, but if there isn't it, there must be others sort of angst.

and is becoming a little sad now, that a male LI must be an angst receptacle to be interesting.

 

I think one of the motive Garrus's romance was so loved was because it was refreshing: no angst, no dead girl around who is missed, and a healty (dextro-amino problems aside) funny relationship that have grow during the three games, with just the right amout of "impossibile/unusual love" given by the fact that he is a Turian, and Shep a human. two species that hated each others not too many years before ME.

 

I hope in DAI there is more sperimentation in the male LI.

[OrayMoor]

See?  This I agree with.  This is a real pattern in the LI's.  "Carth Syndrome" is a real thing and it sucks.  It's not really a "straight female player" thing exclusively though as much as a male LI thing, like you say.  Jaheira was actually the first and Steve was the last and neither of them were for straight gals.  However, yeah, I think I would definitely be sick of it if I were a straight gal after having Carth, Sky, and Thane in three out of five games.

 

I meant they were similar not identical and that they don't have hobbis

[daveliam]

I meant they were similar not identical and that they don't have hobbis

 

What is this obsession with hobbies?  I just don't understand it?  What was Isabela's hobby?  What was Jack's hobby?  What was Dawn Star's hobby?  We don't know everything about the characters.  In some cases, we learn about hobbies (Kaidan loves to cook), in others we don't.  Why is this such a high leverage piece of info for you?

[OrayMoor]

Miranda is a workaholic, she loves her work.

Jack likes partys, tatoos, drougs, swering and varius criminal activitis.

Tali likes tecnology, she is a nerd.

Ashly likes poetry.

Liara, likes diffrent cultures.

Morrigan likes to hang out with animals and and making fun of stupid people.

Lilianna likes fashion and she is a bard so you might guess she is into music.

Isabella loves her ship, feedom and sex.

Merillil loves her clan mates and elven culture.

 

Garrus is the only guy that I can think of that likes something, he likes guns.

 

 

What is this obsession with hobbies?  I just don't understand it?  What was Isabela's hobby?  What was Jack's hobby?  What was Dawn Star's hobby?  We don't know everything about the characters.  In some cases, we learn about hobbies (Kaidan loves to cook), in others we don't.  Why is this such a high leverage piece of info for you?

 

It is important because it gives them character and It gives them a life beyond the one adventure you trying to complite. I'm pretty sure you know your partners likes and dislikes, don't you? It will be pretty wird if you don't, What do you like to do in your free time? Its kind of a first date question.

[Andraste_Reborn]

Garrus is the only guy that I can think of that likes something, he likes guns.

 

This is nonsense. The male love interests also like things.

 

- Anomen enjoys being a pompous ass to every other person who travels with you. (Yet I adore him anyway.)

 

- Carth likes ... well, up to the point at which my copy of KotR irrevocably crashed, he mostly seemed to like insulting the player character.

 

- Sky ... um, did anyone in Jade Empire have enough dialogue to like anything? (Apart from Black Whirlwind. I know his hobbies were drinking and murder. But I'd be hard-pressed to tell you what Dawn Star or Sagacious Zhu like to do in their spare time.)

 

- Alistair likes cheese, his Grey Warden hand puppet and making terrible jokes. He also has a fascination with magical objects and collects them.

 

- I'm pretty sure sex is Zevran's hobby as much as it is Isabela's. Sex and bad poetry about sex. He also likes Antivan leather, even in a non-sexy context. and gaining his freedom from the Crows.

 

- Anders likes cats. The lack of visible cats in Kirkwall is obviously the source of all his problems in DA2.

 

- Fenris likes sitting alone in the dark drinking wine. So maybe you have a point there. Unless he was actually telling the truth about choreographing elaborate dance routines ...

 

- Sebastian's hobbies are prayer and celibacy. And he wants to learn to cook, apparently.

 

- I am going to have to defer to others on the subject of Kaidan because I haven't romanced him yet. (Just playing Mass Effect 3 for the first time ever.)

 

- I can't believe you mentioned that Garrus loves guns and left out his real hobby: calibrating guns. Incessantly.

 

- Thane's main pastimes are assassinating people, saying Drell prayers about assassinating people, and dying. I guess I can't blame him for not spending his last few months taking up flower arranging, though.

 

- Jacob is so bland he doesn't even have a dead girlfriend or a hopeless cause to angst about. You can't expect him to manage an entire hobby.

 

- I haven't played most of the romances in SWTOR, but Andronikos Reval definitely likes stuff. Mainly weapons and military gear, but he also approves of romantic gifts from my Sith Inquisitor.

 

While there are certainly patterns among the BioWare love interests of both genders, some of which I wish would die (*cough* Carth Syndrome *cough*) they all have their own personalities.

[daveliam]

<snip>

 

I was just going to respond with this same type of response. 

 

I'd also like to add that Jacob had a pretty solid hobby:  working out.  That boy loved sit ups.  Of course, it also isn't a surprise that even his hobby is boring......

 

As I said, Kaidan loves to cook.  His date is cooking you steak and drinking beer. 

 

Anomen has an obsession with knighthood and the trappings of being a knight. 

Thane is devoutly religious.

 

It's kind of silly to say that none of the guys have interests.

[Hellion Rex]

I was just going to respond with this same type of response. 

 

I'd also like to add that Jacob had a pretty solid hobby:  working out.  That boy loved sit ups. 

His abs though...

*drool*

[Will-o'-wisp]

Could you explain it to me? Because I really don't get it.

Since the DA2 approach could be perceived either as herosexuality OR "everyone is bi", I just don't see which players weren't served by that.

I made quite lengthy posts about this in the past, so I don't really feel like going into much detail right now, sorry. I'l try to give a small summary. ^^'

Herosexuality:

• means that characters change their sexuality based on the PC, which means changing their character every playthrough so they're more compatible with the player. What's next, changing their opinions?
• makes the characters' sexualities meaningless --> no representation + can't use it in their background in any way

All Bi:

• doesn't feel believable (especially if we're getting 6+ romances)
• no straight or gay LIs possible - everyone has to be bi --> writers are restricted by this + no representation
• feels like a cheap way of making everyone available to every player without paying attention to the characters' preferences and for no other reason than not to make anyone angry that they can't have character x in every possible playthrough

I think that's about it... but this is really off topic (we're talking about romances for straight females here) so if you want to discuss this, either PM me or move to a different thread, pls.

[daveliam]

I think another area of concern at the moment is that no straight (or even bi) romance for women has been confirmed yet except for Cullen who isn't even a party member. I'd like to know what character(s) in the party is open.

Only two companions have been confirmed as LIs with clear sexualities at this point and Dorian was only confirmed last week. So gay men and lesbians each know of only one option and straight men and women don't know any. We know almost nothing. It feels a bit early to insinuate that straight females should be concerned by this.

[Jaulen]

See?  This I agree with.  This is a real pattern in the LI's.  "Carth Syndrome" is a real thing and it sucks.  It's not really a "straight female player" thing exclusively though as much as a male LI thing, like you say.  Jaheira was actually the first and Steve was the last and neither of them were for straight gals.  However, yeah, I think I would definitely be sick of it if I were a straight gal after having Carth, Sky, and Thane in three out of five games.

 

You forget Zevran and his dead lover....whom he spat on as she was bleeding to death. Only to find out afterwards, that she hadn't betrayed them.....

 

So, that's 4 out of 5 games....

[OrayMoor]

 

This is nonsense. The male love interests also like things.

 

- Anomen enjoys being a pompous ass to every other person who travels with you. (Yet I adore him anyway.)

 

- Carth likes ... well, up to the point at which my copy of KotR irrevocably crashed, he mostly seemed to like insulting the player character.

 

- Sky ... um, did anyone in Jade Empire have enough dialogue to like anything? (Apart from Black Whirlwind. I know his hobbies were drinking and murder. But I'd be hard-pressed to tell you what Dawn Star or Sagacious Zhu like to do in their spare time.)

 

- Alistair likes cheese, his Grey Warden hand puppet and making terrible jokes. He also has a fascination with magical objects and collects them.

 

- I'm pretty sure sex is Zevran's hobby as much as it is Isabela's. Sex and bad poetry about sex. He also likes Antivan leather, even in a non-sexy context. and gaining his freedom from the Crows.

 

- Anders likes cats. The lack of visible cats in Kirkwall is obviously the source of all his problems in DA2.

 

- Fenris likes sitting alone in the dark drinking wine. So maybe you have a point there. Unless he was actually telling the truth about choreographing elaborate dance routines ...

 

- Sebastian's hobbies are prayer and celibacy. And he wants to learn to cook, apparently.

 

- I am going to have to defer to others on the subject of Kaidan because I haven't romanced him yet. (Just playing Mass Effect 3 for the first time ever.)

 

- I can't believe you mentioned that Garrus loves guns and left out his real hobby: calibrating guns. Incessantly.

 

- Thane's main pastimes are assassinating people, saying Drell prayers about assassinating people, and dying. I guess I can't blame him for not spending his last few months taking up flower arranging, though.

 

- Jacob is so bland he doesn't even have a dead girlfriend or a hopeless cause to angst about. You can't expect him to manage an entire hobby.

 

- I haven't played most of the romances in SWTOR, but Andronikos Reval definitely likes stuff. Mainly weapons and military gear, but he also approves of romantic gifts from my Sith Inquisitor.

 

While there are certainly patterns among the BioWare love interests of both genders, some of which I wish would die (*cough* Carth Syndrome *cough*) they all have their own personalities.

 

First of all Princess Sun Lian has a Hobby, which is to lead a double life as silk fox I'm pretty sure its very time consuming.

Since when does being an ass is an hobby? If so then there are thousend of haters on the internet would be happy to hear that they finaly have a life.

About alister, the gray warden died, so his hobby is dead? I'm pretty sure the cheese thing was a jock. But lame comedy is a hobby so I'll accept this

So you agree that Thane dosent have a hobby?

I haven't played most of SWTOR romance too so I cant talk about them.

 

I was just going to respond with this same type of response. 

 

I'd also like to add that Jacob had a pretty solid hobby:  working out.  That boy loved sit ups.  Of course, it also isn't a surprise that even his hobby is boring......

 

As I said, Kaidan loves to cook.  His date is cooking you steak and drinking beer. 

 

Anomen has an obsession with knighthood and the trappings of being a knight. 

Thane is devoutly religious.

 

It's kind of silly to say that none of the guys have interests.

 

There is no need to moke me, this is my opinion. You don't see calling your opinion silly.

 

So I happen to think that the intrest of the chararcter are really importent, you disagree and thats Ok.

[daveliam]

First of all Princess Sun Lian has a Hobby, which is to lead a double life as silk fox I'm pretty sure its very time consuming.
Since when does being an ass is an hobby? If so then there are thousend of haters on the internet would be happy to hear that they finaly have a life.
About alister, the gray warden died, so his hobby is dead? I'm pretty sure the cheese thing was a jock. But lame comedy is a hobby so I'll accept this
So you agree that Thane dosent have a hobby?
I haven't played most of SWTOR romance too so I cant talk about them.


There is no need to moke me, this is my opinion. You don't see calling your opinion silly.

I don't think your opinion is silly. I think your refusal to accept evidence is silly. You don't actually respond the hobbies that listed. You list 'loving her clan' as a 'hobby' for Merrill but then dismiss other people's examples as 'not hobbies'. It's just not logical. It's clear to me that you have convinced yourself that the male characters are somehow inferior and that's it. Fine, but then own that as your subjective opinion.