What the hell did elves ever do to humans? Are humans just nasty boshtets, cause if it is racism, I say it is childish and disgusting. If I lived in the dragon age universe, and I was a normal, average elf who has nothing I would join the Qun. Eff eternal poverty, everyone is equal in the Qun. Better chances of survival, and a life of respect and dignity. Off to Par Vollen.
Anyone got a better solution for the elves?
Modifié par Nyeredzi, 04 juillet 2014 - 08:45 .
The elves have done nothing, but you have to keep in mind the land mass belonged to elves before humans even got theere.
It comes down to fear on human parts really, since the land was originally for the elves and elves once all had magic, that would make any normal human nervous. Also have to remember what happen with the Dales, the elves started to regain everything that was lost to them from year and years of enslavement and didn't worship the maker but there own gods, now most of the land mass is highly religious and would see that has a threat and get all crusade time on there mind.
Also population wise, elves are highly more populated then the dwarves are so more of them and so on.
But comes down to history the dwarves have always had decent ties with humans, elves have been enslaved, give a homeland become there own people which got humans worried, they didn't worship the human god. Its basically fear driven that elves may one day return the favor humans visted on them.
Just my two bits.
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The elves have done nothing, but you have to keep in mind the land mass belonged to elves before humans even got theere.
It comes down to fear on human parts really, since the land was originally for the elves and elves once all had magic, that would make any normal human nervous. Also have to remember what happen with the Dales, the elves started to regain everything that was lost to them from year and years of enslavement and didn't worship the maker but there own gods, now most of the land mass is highly religious and would see that has a threat and get all crusade time on there mind.
Also population wise, elves are highly more populated then the dwarves are so more of them and so on.
But comes down to history the dwarves have always had decent ties with humans, elves have been enslaved, give a homeland become there own people which got humans worried, they didn't worship the human god. Its basically fear driven that elves may one day return the favor humans visted on them.
Just my two bits.
Yeah and you know, all the dwarven kingdoms are underground, and since most humans wouldn't want to live underground, they had no reason to invade which is why they maintained good relations.
Yeah and you know, all the dwarven kingdoms are underground, and since most humans wouldn't want to live underground, they had no reason to invade which is why they maintained good relations.
Yup its scary down there.
Dwarves control the lyrium trade.
Elves control the chamber pot.
Because dwarves have skills other than excelling at poverty.
Elves live on the surface and compete with humans for land and resources. The dwarves, however, lived underground and have a stranglehold on resources that the humans want, most notably lyrium which only dwarves can safely mine. Dwarves are thus deemed useful while elves are seen as competion.
True, though I suppose the humans could've just enslaved all the dwarves and forced them to mine lyrium if they had wanted to. But again, there would have been no point conquering an entire kingdom they wouldn't have wanted to live in. So trade would be the more practical option.
According to the stuff in Dragon Age: Origins The Tevinter Imperium originally attacked the Elves because they wanted the Elves secrets, especially their immortality, which, ironically faded in after being around the "quick children" for too long. Eventually the old elves had to fight just to sustain themselves and by then it was too late. They had grown weaker while the Tevinter Imperium had grown stronger.
. They joined with Andraste to break the Imperium's hold and won their freedom but the Chantry is its own monster and destroyed the Dales for not following the Maker.
Elves are an underclass at this point. Humans consider them inferior if they're city elves, or savage if they are Dalish. Humanity has a very selective memory.
The Dwarves has always had economic and technological edges plus they could not use magic. For a while, they also had golems which were lost for a while. But really, what keeps the Chantry out of Dwarfland, is the hassle, and the Darkspawn. They would not want to fight the Dwarves and the Darkspawn at the same time, so they just let the Dwarves deal with the Darkspawn.
If the Darkspawn ever go away, the Dwarves will be the next victims of a Grand Crusade.
Dwarves actually contributed to Thedas society as a whole, Elves did nothing try and push away humans.
Dwarves are useful, they have a badass warrior/merchant tradition, they've been battling the Darkspawn since AOT, and they wear shoes.
I'm sure there are a bunch of other reasons, but off the top of my head I think it's mostly due to the elves having a different 'religion' and stuff, while dwarves stayed to themselves and underground.
What the hell did elves ever do to humans? Are humans just nasty aholes, who like picking on specific others? If it is racism, I say it is childish and disgusting. If I lived in the dragon age universe, and I was a normal, average elf who has nothing I would join the Qun. Eff eternal poverty, everyone is equal in the Qun. Better chances of survival, and a life of respect and dignity. Off to Par Vollen.
Better hope you're not an elven mage.
Elves live on the surface and compete with humans for land and resources. The dwarves, however, lived underground and have a stranglehold on resources that the humans want, most notably lyrium which only dwarves can safely mine. Dwarves are thus deemed useful while elves are seen as competion.
It's that, but its also the fact that dwarves had been highly accommodating to humanity compared to the elves. Dwarves supply humans with lyrium, and sell it the way humans have asked them to sell it, be it to the imperium of old or the chantry currently, the dwarves do a good job at keeping the resource flowing, and keeping the quality from dipping.
Elves don't trade with humans, and more to the point elves can commonly be heard of preying upon innocent merchants passing through their lands. Dwarves may look down on humans, but they don't go out of their way to hamper the humans economic or regional stability.
So yeah, its a case of the dwarves treating the humans well and getting treated well in return.
It'd be specieism not racism seeing as they are different species. Which following that train of thought makes it weird they can procreate but could also be the reason magic is involved.
Not that weird (with dwarves, too, the lore states, by the way). That not at least the majority of the children from such unions is infertile is a bit more weird, but hey, we have Neanderthal genes, so that probably was much less of a problem between our main and off-shoot ancestors than it is between the various species of horses or big cats for example.
Think about black people, or moreso Native Americans. They never did anything to white people back then when they were first introduced, but they became slaves, there I personally believe that the reason some people are still racist modern day is stems because of the stigma that they were once slaves. They had a superiority complex, the same can be said for elves. It was once perfectly acceptable to have elf slaves.
I think thedas in is the midway point between those days and modern day. No one other than elves care too much if someone has an elven slaves but the politically correct attitude is to frown upon it
Not all Native Americans were friendly, and isn't it hinted at that the elvess may have provoked the humans a bit. Also, you're modern day racist thing is pretty off. Mexicans were never enslaved by blacks or whites but can still dislike them.
Dwarves are in a position to be as segregated from humans as they want, and still be prosperous for it.
Elves are more in-your-face reminders of the Other.
With dwarves the discrimination is more on the side of nationalism. If you're from another remote nation and don't look threatening and want to do business, you're welcome within human lands. With elves it is closer to the worst of racism, where it is automatically assumed that you are inferior. Of course, a lot of this is projection, since humans always had fear for what elves could do with power.
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