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[archav3n]

Because Bioware is jealous of Lord of the Rings Elves. They are superior races above human. Scrap that made them as lowly filthy Elves in Thedas XD

[TheLittleBird]

Humanoid means that they are similar to humans in body style.  2 arms, 2 legs, 2 hands, etc.  It doesn't include psychology.  Yes, everyone can have those feelings, but not everyone acts on them.

 

Humans show those traits more often than not.  Most people don't want to admit it, but it's true.  Look at humans in ME, DA, and real life.  In ME, humanity's first contact with aliens resulted in a war.  Afterwards, they thought they had more of a right to be part of the Council than any other race.  In DA, humans (namely Tevinter) conquered Arlathan.  A few hundred years after the elves got the Dales, humans conquered them again, this time calling them heathens.   IRL?  Just look at all the wars throughout history.

 

You know, I said "for lack of a better word". You know what I mean.

You can't compare this to real life. Why? Because humanity is the only species with intelligence of that particular level in our world, as far as we know. This is different in Thedas, because there we also have the Qunari, the elves, the dwarves. Like I said, you can't really compare Thedas to a universe, in this case our universe, when it doesn't portray a similar situation.

 

You said: "Yes, everyone can have those feelings, but not everyone acts on them". Like I said, true of humans as well. Not everyone acts on those feelings.

And you're forgetting how other races can be. The Qunari treat everyone not of the Qun like sh*t. The Dalish and the City Elves treat each other like they come from two different planets. I'm not even mentioning the casteless system because it already has been mentioned.

 

I think the dwarves are way more aggressive than humans. Humans treat elves like crap because of their history. Dwarves treat their own people that aren't born into castes worse than animals. Their whole history is a black spot. Forcing casteless into golems? You don't see that kind of cruelty and hate in any other species. For humans it's mostly reserved for the tyrants and high ranking officials. For dwarves it's commonplace.

 

Their whole culture is based on sacrifice. Golems, legion of the dead, a father that wants his daughter to sacrifice her newborn in order to take her back into the family. In awakening the same trend continues. Whole thaigs were left to fall with the darkspawn without even a call to arms.

 

If dwarves weren't caught up with their darkspawn problems, they would do untold horrors in the surface world. They are the most efficient and ruthless race by far. At least humans care about control. They don't care about individual peasants, but they want to keep them around and entertain the notion of justice. It's mostly hypocrisy but it's something. Also they have the concept of charity. They have the Chantry that cares. Sure they have an agenda, but still it's something. Dwarves are totally uncompromising. If you are castleless you either join the carta or you die alone in the slums and the others don't even recognize you as the same race. The only way to be held in esteem is to die fighting darkspawn in the legion of the dead.

 

Their religious belief support efficiency and ruthlessness too. There is no judgement, no soul searching. You are either important as a crafter, warrior or politician, or the ancestors will be displeased. A devout dwarf is compelled to disregard any value in sentient life if it will allow him to achieve more.

 

I don't really understand why people think humans are worse. Unless it's some kind of criticizing ourselves with the game as a medium.

 

It's quite easy to think of your own race as being the most vile, since you know of its cruelty from the real world.

[DarthLaxian]

What the hell did elves ever do to humans? Are humans just nasty boshtets, cause if it is racism, I say it is childish and disgusting. If I lived in the dragon age universe, and I was a normal, average elf who has nothing I would join the Qun. Eff eternal poverty, everyone is equal in the Qun. Better chances of survival, and a life of respect and dignity. Off to Par Vollen.

 

Anyone got a better solution for the elves?

 

the Qun?

 

Sorry, any religion that has a secret police and re-education camps (and uses drugs on those who still wont comply and on prisoners - effectively killing them (the drug is fatal, but until it kills, you get and obedient slave!)) is a no go for me...but even without that, I can't support religion (such stuff is not logical...it has no basis!)

 

(note: hm...that said, even the chantry does have a secret police: the seekers and an official military (templars), too!)

 

sorry again, but:

 

Are you nuts?

 

That said, yeah, I can't understand it either (I mean, yeah, the ancient elven people might not have been welcoming to the first humans, but that was a long time ago and the magisters then defeated them anyway...time to bury the hatched I think...)

 

greetings LAX

[Feybrad]

the Qun?

 

Sorry, any religion that has a secret police and re-education camps (and uses drugs on those who still wont comply and on prisoners - effectively killing them (the drug is fatal, but until it kills, you get and obedient slave!)) is a no go for me...but even without that, I can't support religion (such stuff is not logical...it has no basis!)

 

(note: hm...that said, even the chantry does have a secret police: the seekers and an official military (templars), too!)

 

sorry again, but:

 

Are you nuts?

 

Everything we know about Par Vollen indicates that the People there, living under Culture of the Qun are much happier and have a much higher standard of Life than the rest of Thedas (well, if they're not a mage that is). From a modern viewpoint it clearly has very unsettling Aspects, but from a thedosian perspective it is vastly superior to the andrastian Cultures. Tevinter might be another thing altogether, but since Slavery and Blood magic run rampant in that place, it can be considered inferior to the Qun Culture.

 

That said, it is MY Opinion. It does not necesserily have to be yours too. i just hope you see the point that a modern Perspective above the Application of very basic Morality is not necessarily one that should be applied to Thedas.

[Gtdef]

My "problem" with the Qun is that it's followers seem stagnant. Of course I don't know too much about them but a warrior people without art, music and imagination is not a good thing. The Qunari strive to be the best they can be, but what does this really mean? Where do they draw influence from and how much can they evolve since they are so certain about everything? Their teacap seems full. 

 

I don't want to expand too much cause I lack information but I'm under this impression.

[Feybrad]

My "problem" with the Qun is that it's followers seem stagnant. Of course I don't know too much about them but a warrior people without art, music and imagination is not a good thing. The Qunari strive to be the best they can be, but what does this really mean? Where do they draw influence from and how much can they evolve since they are so certain about everything? Their teacap seems full. 

 

I don't want to expand too much cause I lack information but I'm under this impression.

 

Is it confirmed they don't have art, music or imagination? The Qun is not just "Warrior People" - we only haven't seen much else than Warriors, since they are the only ones that leave Qunari Territory. Their Culture is in Fact the most technologically and scientifc advanced Society Thedas has to offer, with much better medicinal Provision for example.

 

One could accuse them of technological Stasis, though, since they have had this technology also when they arrived 400 Years prior, but then again, the whole of Thedas seems to be caught in a Medieval Stasis and the only technological Development in at least a Millenium have been some minor dwarven Efforts to catch up to the Level of technology the Qunari already posess.

 

Anyway, that is Off Topic.

[Nyeredzi]

My "problem" with the Qun is that it's followers seem stagnant. Of course I don't know too much about them but a warrior people without art, music and imagination is not a good thing. The Qunari strive to be the best they can be, but what does this really mean? Where do they draw influence from and how much can they evolve since they are so certain about everything? Their teacap seems full. 

 

I don't want to expand too much cause I lack information but I'm under this impression.

Why do you think Sten liked paintings, and drawings?