I would actually prefer if the middle ground was difficult to pull
Like I understand why we might being choosing between the two side
Honestly, I think I'm gonna have to bring both Cassandra and maybe Viv for this one. If we could pull off a middle ground, we'd need the most diplomatic people possible - Cass for the templars and Viv to possibly help with the mages.
My, my. Haven't enjoyed a good mage Templar debate for quite some time.
Indeed. Feels like March again.
No not really. That is just your fantasy. Oh by the way the picture fits you and it isn't a compliment.
Look, if you're going to debate, stop with the personal insults. MisterJB wasn't trying to insult you, just being sarcastic.
For the record, I think he has a point. I'm not sure how it seems like "most" of the Templar Order now snorts the red stuff. We've seen a couple of demos that had them in it, as enemies. Since they are going to be one of the more common enemies, it stands to reason that the DA team would have some of them in their demos. It's a huge logical leap to assume that all restaurants are Taco Bell that all of the Templars are now taking red lyrium/ceded from the original Templar Order.
For the record, I heard we had to pick one side or the other near the beginning of the game, then go from there. I'm hoping for a middle ground as well, but it's not looking likely. 
Since I recently played Witcher 2 for the first time, I actually prefered how they made you pick a side, to demonstrate the power of consequences. Granted, within Dragon Age, I would prefer a middle ground, but if there is indeed such an option in DAI, I'd imagine it would be much more difficult to pull. Especially since the Hinterlands demonstrate that both sides have pretty much gone to hell. That mess will be hard enough to salvage as is without trying to make them work together.
Slightly off-topic: How'd you like Witcher 2?
As for the topic, I'm not really a fan of middle grounds usually in regards to choices like this.
Slightly off-topic: How'd you like Witcher 2?
I will say this, Witcher 2 deals with the concept of choices and consequences better the Dragon Age franchise. That being said, DA still has vastly superior characters.
All in all, had a great time with Witcher 2. Delightedly waiting for Witcher 3.
Indeed. Feels like March again.
Hey, I don't mind so much lol. I miss my old stomping grounds. At least now we have actual info to discuss, i.e. the Hinterlands demo at E3.
Hey, I don't mind so much lol. I miss my old stomping grounds. At least now we have actual info to discuss, i.e. the Hinterlands demo at E3.
I'm just probably going to hang out in the back a lot for this one. After about 6 months of mage/templar talk, I'm still a little burned out. Hats off to the veteran posters that can keep this up.
I'm just probably going to hang out in the back a lot for this one. After about 6 months of mage/templar talk, I'm still a little burned out. Hats off to the veteran posters that can keep this up.
Don't worry. Once DA:I is leaked a month before the game comes out, we can talk about how horrible its ending makes the rest of the game awful.
Slightly off-topic: How'd you like Witcher 2?
As for the topic, I'm not really a fan of middle grounds usually in regards to choices like this.
Don't worry. Once DA:I is leaked a month before the game comes out, we can talk about how horrible its ending makes the rest of the game awful.
Nice ME reference. Those fans have got to be some of the most bitter gamers I've ever met. Not that I blame them, but the ME forums are an unhappy place to be. If I ever let 10 minutes of badly explained dialogue in a game bother me over 2 years since it's ending, I've told my husband to just lock me into a nuthouse until I get over it. 
Fortunately, it does help that DA isn't a set trilogy that they have to finish up with this game, so hopefully that will lend itself to a better ending.
You robes and skirts have fun in the thread. Remember: Attack the stance, attack the words. Don't attack each other. We may disagree, sometimes very strongly, but we're still all DA fans here. Well, except for the few weirdos that loathe BW and DA, but keep coming back to the official forums anyway.
Frankly, I think the fact that there is such a name as Red Templars suggests they need to be distinguished from regular templars.
I honestly think Justinia was the only one rallying for mage and Chantry peace out of the Chantry leaders. When she's dead, from what I hear, it sounds like the Chantry is moving back to more conservative roots instead of pushing for peace like Justinia did.
You're probably right but she really didn't want to push for peace. She only did what she did for as part of deal with the Empress. And that was only because the empress wanted Circle of Magi on her side.
Bioware has already confirmed you pick one group which gets absorbed into the Inquisition and you open unique content that way.
If that content is distinct enough, I doubt they made a third option.
Hmm. Not great.
I do hope that there is a middle ground where you can resolve the Mage/Templar conflict peacefully but there would be some conflict like you would get both types of troops in your Inquisition but would get less overall than you would get if you just picked one side because the Mages and Templars are busy working together to create a new system for them to work with.
Mages FOR THE WIN! But I may go with the Templars in my first play though...I don't know...
Hmm. Not great.
That was my thoughts as well.
So we will probably be forced to choose between Mages and Templars again but in my opinion there should be a third option because as Varric said at the end of DA:II I'm sick of mages and templars and I agree with him completely
Do you think Bioware will give us that third option? What could it be ?
I don't see a realistic middle ground when you have two groups that have opposing ideological views - the mages want autonomy from the Chantry and the templars after a millennia of the Chantry controlled Circles, and the templars want to govern the mages.
Perhaps your Inquisitor can simply ignore the Mage-Templar War, if you aren't inclined to pick a side?
I like that we will be forced to choose sides. I feel a third option would make it feel too much like a "happy ending" similar to being able to resolve the Geth and Quarian conflict. I like the idea of dealing with the consequences of crushing the mages or templars. No third option, no ability to run away and hide from the tough decision. You are the inquisitor and the Inquisition needs one of these factions, now choose.
That just appeals to me more.
I don't see a realistic middle ground when you have two groups that have opposing ideological views - the mages want autonomy from the Chantry and the templars after a millennia of the Chantry controlled Circles, and the templars want to govern the mages.
Perhaps your Inquisitor can simply ignore the Mage-Templar War, if you aren't inclined to pick a side?
I heard we'll have to pick a side and early in the game at that.
Well if we are forced to pick a side. Mages. Just like if we had to chose Magaisters or slaves I would chose slaves.
Well i want destroy both sides i rly don't need dumb lunatics on my side it is only trouble.So i would prefer 3 option but not middle ground.
I heard we'll have to pick a side and early in the game at that.
Actually, the interview from the video revealed the player can side with one of the factions early on; Cameron Lee didn't say that it was mandatory.
Actually, the interview from the video revealed the player can side with one of the factions early on; Cameron Lee didn't say that it was mandatory.
Let's hope that's true then. 
Well i want destroy both sides i rly don't need dumb lunatics on my side it is only trouble.So i would prefer 3 option but not middle ground.
You know that's not going happen TKS. No matter how many posts you make on the subject.
It'll be fascinating to learn how this choice won't seriously impact the future of the franchise.
Let's hope that's true then.
You can check out the video here, shared by MisterJB. As Cameron Lee said, "You can bring an end to the conflict between the mages and the templars once and for all very early on in the game. You can align with one of those." 1:40 mark.
A regional victory for the mages in Ferelden and Orlais seems possible. My Inquisitor can fulfill the intent of the Magi Boon - securing the autonomy of the mages, and a future of freedom for the next generation.
You can check out the video here, shared by MisterJB. As Cameron Lee said, "You can bring an end to the conflict between the mages and the templars once and for all very early on in the game. You can align with one of those." 1:40 mark.
A regional victory for the mages in Ferelden and Orlais seems possible. My Inquisitor can fulfill the intent of the Magi Boon - securing the autonomy of the mages, and a future of freedom for the next generation.
I know what he said but thanks for linking the vid. 
Let's just hope it remains optional. I have my doubts. After DA2 and ME3, I think it's understandable why I'm leery of being railroaded. Again.
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