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Because he came to agree with the Wardens' logic.

 

More like resigned into it. There's nothing else for him.

 

But I'll stop posting about this.



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Like Duncan himself wanted to die. And ran away like Anders a few times.

 

Yet he inflicts this on others.

 

Duncan recognizes it as necessary. There's literally an ocean of darkspawn occupying the fallen dwarven thaigs, that run the entire expanse of the continent of Thedas. The dwarves basically fight the darkspawn every day of their lives - the warrior caste, with casteless recruits (and possibly golems) contributing if Bhelen is crowned King. The Grey Wardens are needed, and while the Joining is certainly not pleasant, I think Duncan's right.



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Ummm, back on topic?

 

Yea - if there's the option, I'll be beating both sides into submission.



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Aw, I was enjoying reading that tangent!



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One last thing. I wonder if I'm going to hate my Inquisitor's story more than the Warden. They have a knack for making me NOT enjoy my own protagonists.

 

I like the world/setting though. So to get on topic, I don't want to see things radically change with the mages and templars and chantry. It's a huge section of factional interplay. What the hell is left if it's gone? Not a whole lot.



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Ummmm, so.........how bout them Templars? I hear they're pretty cool.



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Ummmm, so.........how bout them Templars? I hear they're pretty cool.

 

They used to be. Now they recruit any random hillbilly.



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Ummmm, so.........how bout them Templars? I hear they're pretty cool.

 

Except when they're red rocks.  :lol:



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Ummmm, so.........how bout them Templars? I hear they're pretty cool.

Templars are the best. Everyone is a Templar. 

 

Except filthy Mages



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One last thing. I wonder if I'm going to hate my Inquisitor's story more than the Warden. They have a knack for making me NOT enjoy my own protagonists.

 

I like the world/setting though. So to get on topic, I don't want to see things radically change with the mages and templars and chantry. It's a huge section of factional interplay. What the hell is left if it's gone? Not a whole lot.

 

I suppose it depends on how the narrative goes. Tastes differ. I rather enjoyed the inception with my Surana Warden, since I was able to choose different elements for his background (like where he was born) and his personality (such as which Fraternity he sympathized with). I'm hoping for the same with Inquisition, where the player can choose certain elements of their backstory in dialogue, and define their viewpoints on certain matters.

 

I'm rather keen on finding out how the story handles an elven mage - is it going to be an issue for the Andrastian troops that a "heathen" mage is in charge? How will regular people react upon finding out that a free elven mage who follows a forbidden religion has been given direct command over a military power? What will the nobles do in response? Will companions, like Vivienne or Solas, show an interest, or will some simply see my character as a maleficar for using non-Circle sanctioned magic (via Wynne and Alistair labelling Morrigan as such)? How will the Chantry respond?

 

Ideally, it won't be ignored.

 

As for radical change, I'm hoping to bring that about with the protagonist. *fingers crossed*



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Templars are the best. Everyone is a Templar. 

 

Except filthy Mages

 

In my experience, only blood mages are filthy. The others are neat freaks, in fact. What else do they do? Sit in the same room. Pick up dust on the same floor, day after day.


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Except when they're red rocks.  :lol:

Speaking of, I liked how we saw a Templar that had begun mutation in the trailer. He had large red crystals growing out of his shoulders.



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Speaking of, I liked how we saw a Templar that had begun mutation in the trailer. He had large red crystals growing out of his shoulders.

 

Maybe we should consider capturing them and sending them to the Deep Roads to fight Darkspawn. (They remind me of golems.) 



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Maybe we should consider capturing them and sending them to the Deep Roads to fight Darkspawn. (They remind me of golems.) 

Interesting idea. However, I think we'd have to capture and contain them early, before hitting full behemoth stage, as I think those would be nigh uncontrollable. Also, we'd have to be careful of red lyrium corruption.



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Speaking of, I liked how we saw a Templar that had begun mutation in the trailer. He had large red crystals growing out of his shoulders.

 

I have to question the sanity of anyone who saw what happened to Meredith and thought, "I should do that".



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I have to question the sanity of anyone who saw what happened to Meredith and thought, "I should do that".

 

That's why I feel there's something else going on with them



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I have to question the sanity of anyone who saw what happened to Meredith and thought, "I should do that".

 

I thought they did it to unwilling people as well.

 

Kind of like Warden recruitment :D (don't worry, I'll stop)



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That's why I feel there's something else going on with them

I think that the Big Bad is manipulating them.

 

That, or Imshael had them make a choice.



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I think that the Big Bad is manipulating them.

 

That, or Imshael had them make a choice.

 

Why not both  :whistle:



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Why not both  :whistle:

Damn. So, while Imshael and the Big Bad might have different endgames...perhaps the manipulation of the Red Templars is a joint operation.



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I thought they did it to unwilling people as well.

 

Kind of like Warden recruitment :D (don't worry, I'll stop)

 

Actually, there's a mystery with the Wardens (eluded to at the end of Act II, when Hawke encounters Stroud having to leave for some unspecified mission, as well as with Nathaniel's venture into the primeval thaig in Act III), so it might have some connection to the Red Templars.


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Damn. So, while Imshael and the Big Bad might have different endgames...perhaps the manipulation of the Red Templars is a joint operation.

 

Imshael gets to have his fun with choices and the Big Bad gets cannon fodder with their Venatori and demons


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Actually, there's a mystery with the Wardens (eluded to at the end of Act II, when Hawke encounters Stroud having to leave for some unspecified mission, as well as with Nathaniel's venture into the primeval thaig in Act III), so it might have some connection to the Red Templars.

I swear, it all seems to be more interconnected than we had ever realized.



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I swear, it all seems to be more interconnected than we had ever realized.

 

I'm expecting the other shoe to drop with Corypheus.



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Imshael gets to have his fun with choices and the Big Bad gets cannon fodder with their Venatori and demons

Indeed. Perhaps Imshael facilitated the rampant growth of red lyrium in Orlais. Hell, he made a gem to power the eluvian network out of thin air. He'd certainly have the power to generate the red lyrium.