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[JEMEDAOME2]

I'm sure if you look at the amount of people who quick start the numbers would be about the same its's all about lack of effort on their part really (like people who turn up to fancy dress parties as "businessmen" or "models"   cos they don't wanna wear a costume

[Uncrushable PIGEON]

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It's not like in Lord of the rings where elves are these pretty magical highly intelligence species with strong history and kingdoms (i know not everyone likes that but still) or like what we are used to seeing in fantasy games. I've just never had the urge to really play one because they seem so pathetic. As for dwarves, i think they are represented fairly well in Dragon age even if i feel the world would be fine without them, they seem pretty insignificant to the grande scheme of things. I personally never liked playing dwarves in any game and i know many people who also don't like playing them so i would assume there are plenty of people out there who would just never want to play a short chubby dwarf.

 

 

 

I think if Elves were more like the typical fantasy elf they would be a lot more popular. However i do like that Dragon Age changed things up.

This is exactly why I dislike elves in general. I cannot get into a *super special snowflake of awesomeness* type of character, I mean I understand where this comes from, just so very MEH for me.

 

My favorite fantasy race would be halflings. And second favorite are Dwarves. My canon Warden is a CD, and I am so looking forward to playing a Cadash Inquisitrix .(and a Dalish, and a Qunari)

 

I have played Human PCs before, but if I play as one in DA:I, it will be after I have exhausted all my other choices

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Another thing, the argument that you need multiple races to foster multiple runs of a game is kinda whack.

In DAO I had three completed runs (which honestly considering its scale is a decent number. It ain't BG/2 after all). Chaotic Good M!Cousland, DPS Warrior + True Neutral M!Amell, Buffer/Healer Magi + Lawful Evil F!Cousland, DPS Rogue.

And all three were distinctive, engaging and enjoyable gaming experiences.

And don't get me started on BG2. I have logged an unhealthy amt of hours on multiple human runs. Curse that game.

Whilst I can understand where you are coming from, I think one of the reasons it might come into play for doing different race runs in DAI is that they've already pointed out how people will look at you differently if you are one of the other races with Qunari and Elf standing out for potential differing views with other characters. Not trying to say you should try it because each to their own and you've clearly grown with the opinion of sticking with humans. *resists urge to do a certain turian quote*

[ShadyKat]

I never play as a human, when given the choice not to. I have zero plans of ever rolling a human in DA:I, simply because they are the most boring race in every game. Don't know how some people can say that elves and dwarves are boring, but ignore humans always play the same role in all fantasy/sci fi games.

[In Exile]

I never play as a human, when given the choice not to. I have zero plans of ever rolling a human in DA:I, simply because they are the most boring race in every game. Don't know how some people can say that elves and dwarves are boring, but ignore humans always play the same role in all fantasy/sci fi games.

 

Speaking as someone who thinks dwarves (and Dalish elves) are boring, it's because they're usually always just humans (culturally) with such a narrow change in their appearance that they don't even really look non-human. I want a degree of alieness in my non-human races. It's why I love the qunari so much.

[Cutlass Jack]

Was it worth to include all these different races when most people even on this forum where the hardcore

fans are will pick human ?

What do you think? Why do people pick human?

 

I picked human noble in DA:O only because it made the most sense to me storywise (motiviation for joining grey wardens, arl howe main villian in the story..)

 

I'm definitely planning on picking Qunari this time but if the story is better if you are human (DA:I in the beginning :human only) then I will reconsider

So what do you think?

 

Why do you assume 'hardcore fans' will only have one playthrough?

 

I'll absolutely do a human male on my first run, but I definately plan on trying out every race eventually. I'm really happy they took the time to expand the options.

 

While my human noble in Origins is the one I consider my 'main' run, the Elven Bride storyline is one of my all time favorites that I've played through multiple times because I loved her so much.

[ReallyRue]

I imagine some people might find it easier to understand the world if they have a fairly general template to start with. Human noble for instance, doesn't need the racial lore behind Dalish/city elf/dwarven origins. It also doesn't need an appreciation for this magic setting and the Fade like the magi origin.

 

I like that personally. My first playthrough was a Dalish, simply because it's the complete opposite lifestyle to mine and I figured it would be interesting. Don't think I was properly able to headcanon a Dalish character until a few playthroughs later. My second was a mage, but ditto for mage's relationship to the Fade and fear of demons. The Circle quest shows you, but feels more impersonal when you're not playing a mage. I think some of that stuff takes a while to sink in, whereas 'noble is betrayed, family slaughtered and loses everything' is fairly easy to relate to (maybe even the noble part, if you imagined losing your house and money...).

 

I play all the races, and usually both male and female. If nothing else, I think it helps me understand the perspective and experiences of a non-human character better if you compare it to the human playthrough. The most obvious example being that a human noble can marry Alistair/Anora.

[zambingo]

I think the OP is working from a false assumption. With that said...

In DAO I was a Dalish Archer. I settled on the Dalish Origin as I liked the idea it was the only origin which isn't conscripted to join the Wardens because of [insert things] but instead must join or s/he will unequivocally die.

I always felt like the other origins really could run at anytime. Duncan was a busy man who had an appointment with a King. I can't see him abandoning all to hunt down eg. The Dwarf Commoner who has decided to bolt as soon as they reach the surface.

In DAI I dunno what race I'll choose, but I might be set on the mage class already. Reason for that is my Warden was a rogue, Hawke was a warrior and I thought it would be poetic, I guess, if the Quizzy was a mage. This would mean the PCs make up the traditional RPG party.

[Aran Linvail]

If the game have the choice i always play Elves first , i love rogue elves and rogue halflings , in DAI rogue elf first and mage elf second , i dont play as human , only when i dont have another choice.

[Dubozz]

Most people will pick human anyway? Why?

Humans have racial pvp trinket thats why.

[Rosey]

I like this thread

 

I almost always do my very first playthrough (in games that allow me to have a choice) as a Human. I do so because my very first playthrough is almost always a "Me in this setting" playthrough. Once it's completed I move on to the different races to see the differences and for roleplaying reasons.

 

Take DAO for example. My very first playthrough EVER was a HN DW warrior. She was me in everything, her choices, her love interest.

 

My Cannon playthrough, however, is a City Elf Rogue. A City Elf Rogue who romanced Zevran. Whom If I met in real life I would probably run screaming from because he's to smooth for my liking. (give me dorky Alistair any day ) A City Elf Rogue who romanced Zevran and did the Ultimate Sacrifice, because even if Morrigan was her bff 5ever, she just couldn't see letting an old god run around in human form being a good idea. She did a lot of things I personally don't agree with, but for the sake of the worldstate I wanted to build with her, she turned out to be by far my favorite playthrough. The little nuances and tweaks to the setting that you get when you're an elf or a dwarf as opposed to a human are just so worth it.

 

Honestly I'd be willing to wager the reason why most folks chose human (first or always) is because they can play themselves, where when you play a Dwarf or an Elf (or in DAI a Qunari - i'm so excited for this btw it might be my first time NOT starting off as a Human) it takes a bit more "thinking outside the box". And while thats absolutely the reason I do it, I also enjoy going back a second, third, or 50th time and trying out the different perspectives of other races I might ALWAYS have a "Hey that's Me" human playthrough - but they never end up being the story I eventually want to tell

[Rosey]

Humans have racial pvp trinket thats why.

 

I'm out of likes

[littlebrightpanda]

I usually go with human as my first playthrough as I think they offer the most balanced experience out of all races- no big conflict to be had, while dwarves, Qunari and elves could get into trouble in a human-dominant society. It might be be most boring out of all playthroughs but it gives me a good idea for my other characters. 

 

I go for the other races later. In DA:O my first playthrough was with a human noble, then dwarf noble (I like my nobles), dalish, and human mage. For DA:I I plan to do humans first, then dwarves, then elves or Qunari.  

[PsychoBlonde]

I can't really put my finger on why I prefer human characters.

 

It does make me feel boring though.

 

I'm very sensitive to my character's appearance and non-human races often look proportionally "wrong" to me.  (Granted the human characters often look wrong to me in a lot of games, too.)

Granted, DDO has largely cured me of this.  My current characters are a dwarf, an elf, a half-elf, and a human.  I've played half-orcs and halflings plenty (I actually like the halfling appearance the most--the humans are a little stretched out but the halflings are very proportional).  I've even played warforged a few times even though they all look like huge beefy men and I hate that.  Huge beefy woman is fine.

 

If there's not enough of a statistical difference between the races to make playing one mechanically desirable as in DDO I tend to gravitate toward the one that looks the most like how I want to look, is all.  I'm likely not to play a Qunari even though I really enjoy the race simply because I goofily prefer to be shorter than my romance (even though I'm GINORMOUS in real life and substantially taller than MOST men).

 

All that being said, the Dwarf Noble was my favorite Origin by a HUGE margin.  I just liked PLAYING a mage through the storyline too much.

[RedIntifada]

I have a beard and I like my character to have one as a connection. Elves couldn't have beards in DA:O. I will probably still play Elf or Qunari but it would be easier to lean that way if they could grow facial hair.

[fiveforchaos]

It depends on how you view "better."

 

Spoiler

I know so many people who claim the Human Noble Origin is the "best" origin and has the greatest tie to the story on account of their connection to Howe, yet I think the same reason applied to the HN goes doubly so for the CE. You also have a personal grudge against Howe for purging your alienage for no other reason than he could ("when animals snap at their human masters, it's prudent to cull the herd"), then you learn after that he sold your people into slavery and Loghain green lit it. I know people who say the Landsmeet portion is most significant to them as a noble since they get to kill Howe and be among their noble-blooded brethren at the Landsmeet, yet I say the City Elf has personal significance in killing Howe, revisiting the alienage, and then deposing Loghain. Therefore the entire Landsmeet portion of the endgame (from when Eamon first gathers the nobles to after Loghain is deposed) has more personal significance to the city elf than the human noble.

Then again, I also have a friend who's enamored with the Dwarf Noble Origin because your very existence throws a wrench in Orzammar politics (since you should have been killed when exiled), just returning upsets the politics there, and feels that killing Bhelen is the most satisfying game experience ever. He doesn't even know how popular the Human Noble Origin is with other players (he was shocked when I told him 80% of players just chose human) but the City Elf and Human Noble were the only other two origins he even played, and after a few hours said "Meh, doesn't appeal to me" before trying and falling in love with the Dwarf Noble Origin.

 

So, it all depends on personal taste."

 

 

 

I too am enamored with the Dwarven Noble origin. It just felt right to me, that a dwarf should lead the wardens since the dwarves are the one's who deal with the darkspawn on a more regular basis. Also, the fact that I had to watch both of my brothers die, one of them at my own hands, really impacted my choices and emotional investment in the story. This origin made me feel guilty the way no other origin did and that guilt carried through in nearly all my decisions. I may not have had any personal stake in the landsmeet, but it felt personal to me because I associated it with what had gone on in Orzammar. I wanted to let Logain live, because I had seen enough families torn apart by by political conflict (he didn't, but only because I thought it would be a good idea to let Alistair fight). 

[BlueMagitek]

I believe that for the majority of gamers interested in DA, it's easier to get in the mindset of a human, because they tend to reflect us in some way (Ferelden has some similarities to Britain, Orlais to France, etc).  They don't come with the baggage of, oh, being part of a caste system where everyone looks down upon you, with the only chance of upward mobility coming from prostitution of yourself or your sister (Dwarf commoner). 

 

That's my assumption, at least.

[Cypher0020]

I've never done a human run in Origins

 

*female elf mage/SH spec

* male elf mageAW spec

*female city elf warrior

* female dwarf commoner rouge

 

Now on my male noble dwarf warrior

 

I love fantasy games because I don't want to play a human 

[ReadingRambo220]

Will definitely play all the races and genders, will probably play a boring human mage for the first play through though.

[J-Reyno]

Sometimes it's the game too, I think.  I think it's unfortunate that games go out of their way to makes all of these different options but only seem to cater their game to one or two.  Things like the added interaction and personal history between Howe and the HN in DAO, the total lack of a single dwarf LI throughout the games, and so on.  Sometimes a race will just seem to have better options.  It's like choosing a High Elf as your mage in some MMO that gives elves a huge magic bonus.  I mean, yeah you can make a mage of any race but High Elf is clearly the best choice.  That's not a perfect analogy because what is the best for story interaction is always going to be subjective, but I think everyone would understand what I'm getting at.  

 

So I think that plays a part as well.  Not only do people identify with humans but in a game like DAO, for example, the story seems to encourage that.  Humans often feel very "default".

[Aunty Social]

I like humans, so yeah, I'll play as a human.

 

It's either that or a play a dwarf, because I like dwarves second.

 

Eventually I'll do a qunari playthrough, just to see how different it is.

Two thumbs up for Teal'c.... >.>

 

And just to reiterate:  Human = a fairly neutral playthrough.  Especially if played as a warrior or rogue, which for me, opens up tons of playability as I attempt to find every little word that is different.  Youtube?  Yeah, I use that sometimes, but I still play through.  I must have every save state ever invented!  (I don't yet, but it's a goal.  We all gotta have goals).

[KC_Prototype]

I like role playing as myself in game universes. What would I do here on mars or what would I do here in Los Santos and etc. I create a character that some what resembles me.