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[KC_Prototype]

I've had the impression that she had a crush on a femHawke.   I'm not taking Varric telling her that she has a case of hero worship as confirmation that she's straight. (Same with the kiss on the cheek from the anime.)  Remember, she didn't say she had a case of hero worship, Varric did.  And she still gets that wonderfully dopey look when she says, "It's just so...romantic."  

 

I could see her easily falling in love with either gender, if they were noble, just and tried to do the honorable thing in all of their actions.  I also think that she would be a bisexual LI in a small part because both men and women want a chance to romance Cassandra and she's our only female warrior in the party.  I've seen plenty of folks of both genders that are tired of all the lady LIs either being mages or rogues.  Especially the latter, but I digress.

 

With Vivienne, I wish I could put my finger on it, but she's straight to me.  I wish I had a better answer than that, but I don't know quite as much about her.  I don't take her country of origin as any "proof" that she's bisexual.   That's about all I have to say about that.  

Respectable opinion and I see your points but remember, many males wanted Sera and look how that turned out. I'm not saying Cass won't be bi, there's a 50/50 chances thinking realistically but it won't be because she had a huge female fanbase. 

[KaiserShep]

I thought Merrill was pretty easy to have show up at the Hawke Estate for my F!Hawke, but I don't believe there's any meaningful difference between the genders. If you're pro-mage, and use her as your regular party caster, it's pretty easy to boost her friendship aside from the flirt options available at her home. If anything, Isabela is the one I found a bit more difficult, since it's a bit harder to determine what gains her friendship, and if it's not done soon enough in Act 2, her visit may never happen in time (aside from her being gone for good if it's not high enough).

 

Anyway, as for Cass, with her being the "lead" companion character in the game's marketing, I'm inclined to predict her being bi, but we'll see.

[Grieving Natashina]

Respectable opinion and I see your points but remember, many males wanted Sera and look how that turned out. I'm not saying Cass won't be bi, there's a 50/50 chances thinking realistically but it won't be because she had a huge female fanbase. 

Trust me, I know that size or demand of a fanbase doesn't really dictate any of BioWare's decisions (despite what some like to claim.)  If you notice though, I mentioned both genders, that men and women want a chance to have a female warrior to romance.  Her fanbase is sizable for both genders, which is one of the very small reasons why I think she's got a better than 50/50 chance of being bisexual.

 

Expect the worst, hope for the best, which is my mentality at the moment.   If she isn't bisexual, then I shrug and my life will go on. 

[Ryzaki]

I thought Merrill was pretty easy to have show up at the Hawke Estate for my F!Hawke, but I don't believe there's any meaningful difference between the genders. If you're pro-mage, and use her as your regular party caster, it's pretty easy to boost her friendship aside from the flirt options available at her home. If anything, Isabela is the one I found a bit more difficult, since it's a bit harder to determine what gains her friendship, and if it's not done soon enough in Act 2, her visit may never happen in time (aside from her being gone for good if it's not high enough).

 

Anyway, as for Cass, with her being the "lead" companion character in the game's marketing, I'm inclined to predict her being bi, but we'll see.

 

Yeah it's easy enough as long as you hit a heart option. (And I'm not even sure which heart option in specific triggers her romance. I know Fenris is in the drunk conversation...or the one after that. one of those two, Isabela's is pretty early on in act 2 (and if you don't hit on her then you're screwed) but her friendship gets a sizable boost if you pick the flirt (which makes rival mancing her even more of a pain since that flirt is the only way to start her romance). Anders of course is the easiest.

 

I have never had Merrill's romance successfully initiate without me doing so.

[KaiserShep]

Yeah, you basically had to lead her along to get the encounter. Anders is the only one out of the four that I felt was problematic, since he's quick to presume and gets upset when you shut him down. Shutting down Merrill, on the other hand, is actually kind of amusing and endearing in its awkwardness, and can be done with a friendly comment.

[Ryzaki]

Yeah, you basically had to lead her along to get the encounter. Anders is the only one out of the four that I felt was problematic, since he's quick to presume and gets upset when you shut him down. Shutting down Merrill, on the other hand, is actually kind of amusing and endearing in its awkwardness, and can be done with a friendly comment.

 

Maybe it's cause I rival her but Hawke's shut down is the exact opposite of friendly it ended up ruining my fenrismance save because I felt it was too much of a jerk thing to say D:

[KC_Prototype]

Trust me, I know that size or demand of a fanbase doesn't really dictate any of BioWare's decisions (despite what some like to claim.)  If you notice though, I mentioned both genders, that men and women want a chance to have a female warrior to romance.  Her fanbase is sizable for both genders, which is one of the very small reasons why I think she's got a better than 50/50 chance of being bisexual.

 

Expect the worst, hope for the best, which is my mentality at the moment.   If she isn't bisexual, then I shrug and my life will go on. 

Again, respectable opinion and I can't disagree.

[Grieving Natashina]

Again, respectable opinion and I can't disagree.

You have some very valid points as well.  Here's to seeing what the future brings for both of us.

[KC_Prototype]

Absolutely, without a doubt untrue.  Bisexual =/= playersexual.

 

Bisexual = attracted to both males and females

Playersexual = sexuality is determined by player gender (i.e. straight with a female PC and gay with a male PC)

 

Not the same at all.

Realistically speaking, they are the same. 

[Ryzaki]

Realistically speaking, they are the same. 

 

Let me use an analogy...

 

Say there's 2 colors. Red and Blue.

 

Bisexuals are the people that like red and blue regardless of what you like.

 

Playersexuals are the people who's preference for red or blue changes depending on what you pick. If you say you like red so do they and they don't like blue, and vice versa.

 

They are not the same.

[Han Shot First]

@ The OP.

 

There will be one LI available for your player character.

 

 

 

Enjoy!

[The Qun & the Damned]

[Maria Caliban]

Didn't they say they at least want to try to give people two options for romances anyway?

Yes, everyone will have at least two options. Some may have more.

Absolutely, without a doubt untrue. Bisexual =/= playersexual.

Bisexual = attracted to both males and females
Playersexual = sexuality is determined by player gender (i.e. straight with a female PC and gay with a male PC)

Not the same at all.

Yeah, playersexual started out as a criticism that the LIs didn't truly have an orientation and were being reduced to blow up dolls for the PC. For awhile there, it started to become more positive with even David saying that the more sexually ambiguous companions could be considered "playersexual" and that was fine as some people aren't obvious in their orientation.

Now that BioWare has moved to set sexualities, they've said that everyone will be clearly straight, gay, or bisexual (or perhaps even pansexual or asexual, it could happen!) though bisexual would not be a synonym for sleeping with anything that moved.

[Maria Caliban]

Obviously you care
but really
Who cares?

I do because I hope to romance Cassandra with my Inquisitor.

[Ailith Tycane]

I have a habit of always starting games as male PC's and never finishing them. I just can't get invested the same way I do as when I have a female character. 

[Ryzaki]

I don't really understand why everyone seems to be so anxious about the sexual orientations of the various companions.

 

Can't you just roll a character from the requisite gender? I know that some female gamers do not like to play male PC's and vice versa, but that's never really been a problem for me. I had an equally enjoyable time playing a female Hawke as I did a male one. My main inquisitor will be male, but I have no problem rolling a female to romance Sera.. 

 

While I don't mind playing both genders there are games where it pretty much becomes impossible for me to play male because I find the female experience so superior. (and a much smaller amount the exact opposite). I didn't enjoy playing male in DAO. I had...3 and 2 of them were variations of the same character. DA2 I went the reverse and stuck with males. Playing the gender I don't want to play pretty much sours the whole experience. I'm more liable to get annoyed or bored and it's not as enjoyable.

[Ailith Tycane]

Also considering this game will involve more open world collecting and building systems, Im probably going to invest a crap load of time into those, and I probably wont want to do it a second time with a character I don't really care about, lol.

[Maria Caliban]

I don't play male characters in BioWare games because I only get to play a female character about 15% of the time and a queer woman once every few years. One of the big reasons I am a fan of BioWare is that they offer me the experience of playing a hero who is like me.


I know many players enjoy replaying their favorite RPG several times, but I tend to finish a game once and move on, perhaps picking it up again after several DLC or a nice expansion pack is released.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I play gay male characters in Bioware games because I rarely see them anywhere else in media. It's one of the major reasons the games drew me in. I usually don't play many times. So far I've only played ME/DA games 1-2 times each. Playing a female to see a hetero romance defeats the point for me. I can see hetero romances literally everywhere. It's not nearly the same experience. 

[Deviija]

Realistically speaking, they are the same. 

 

Nah, not the same at all.  Playersexuality as it is more often used is grounded in the idea that the LI's sexuality is ambiguous enough for the player to project whatever kind of sexuality they want onto the relationship, or at least be ambiguous enough to assume what they wish.  

 

For true playersexuality = ambiguous sexuality to exist, a character would need to never reference any kind of past relationship or show any kind of attraction to anyone beyond the PC.  Isabela, for example, cannot be this type of playersexual.  She speaks of relationships with both men and women in her dialogues.  You can't be a lesbian Hawke and view Isabela as a lesbian in a lesbian relationship.  It fails to be playersexual/ambiguous sexuality. 

 

I don't think BioWare has ever written a truly ambiguous playersexual LI yet.  

 

If using the term playersexual to mean 'attracted to the PC no matter what,' then straight LIs fall into this category all the same.  

[daaaav]

Yes, everyone will have at least two options. Some may have more.


Yeah, playersexual started out as a criticism that the LIs didn't truly have an orientation and were being reduced to blow up dolls for the PC. For awhile there, it started to become more positive with even David saying that the more sexually ambiguous companions could be considered "playersexual" and that was fine as some people aren't obvious in their orientation.

Now that BioWare has moved to set sexualities, they've said that everyone will be clearly straight, gay, or bisexual (or perhaps even pansexual or asexual, it could happen!) though bisexual would not be a synonym for sleeping with anything that moved.

 

This was an unfortunate side effect of the player sexual approach. In order to not propogate this stereotype, all characters must have their sexualities suppressed in order to maintain the playersexual illusion.