Aller au contenu

Photo

Orlesian Inquisitor


  • Veuillez vous connecter pour répondre
64 réponses à ce sujet

#26
Lucijenifer

Lucijenifer
  • Members
  • 259 messages

The thing I like most about the Qunari is the Qun. Sten drops a couple of gems in form of parables in DA:O that are hard to argue with. I'm pretty sure the way Tevinter's been depicted thus far is 3/5's propaganda. Slavery and blood magic are a thing in Tevinter, but it's probably no where near as described in southern Thedas. The Chantry censors any and everything that comes out of the Imperium.

 

One magister goes all the way to Kirkwall in order to reclaim Fenris and reduce him to being a slave again whilst another uses the blood of Ferelden's old king in order to try and restore the Tevinter Imperium's old power. So far, every magister we've seen has be horribly unpleasant and vile - although I'd like to think that it's all propaganda, the examples we've seen so far and what Dorian is likely to say about Tevinter shows that they're probably the norm, rather than comically evil exceptions.

 

So why is Orlais worse than a nation full of Danarius-like magisters?



#27
Guest_TheDarkKnightReturns_*

Guest_TheDarkKnightReturns_*
  • Guests

One magister goes all the way to Kirkwall in order to reclaim Fenris and reduce him to being a slave again whilst another uses the blood of Ferelden's old king in order to try and restore the Tevinter Imperium's old power. So far, every magister we've seen has be horribly unpleasant and vile - although I'd like to think that it's all propaganda, the examples we've seen so far and what Dorian is likely to say about Tevinter shows that they're probably the norm, rather than comically evil exceptions.

 

So why is Orlais worse than a nation full of Danarius-like magisters?

 

Fenris is no ordinary slave. He's the DA version of Wolverine with a bad case of the feels. His accounts of Danarius are biased. It's also implied that he and Danarius were tight like white on rice before his amnesia.

 

Two Magisters is not all of the Tevinter nobility. That's like saying two bad apples spoils the bunch. Until we visit Tevinter in game we won't know for sure.



#28
Lucijenifer

Lucijenifer
  • Members
  • 259 messages

Well, every apple we've tasted from the bunch has been bad so far. That makes it difficult for me to think of anything but those two magisters when I look back at Tevinter.



#29
Guest_Morrigan_*

Guest_Morrigan_*
  • Guests

I'm a fan of Tevinter actually. And Ferelden. And the Qunari. And the Rivaini. Orlais is probably the only group that pushes me into making 'meta-gamey' decisions. 

 

You and I think alike. Long live Tevinter!



#30
Guest_Morrigan_*

Guest_Morrigan_*
  • Guests

Also, on a side note ....

 

People are quick to attack Tevinter because of their supposed involvement in creating the blight, their acceptance of slavery, etc.... but I don't really think other nations are in a position to judge.

 

As I have said before in other threads:

  • Racism is endemic in both Orlais and Ferelden.
  • Slavery still exists in both nations, albeit without official government sanction.
  • Orlais committed genocide against the elves and created the Dalish diaspora which we have today.
  • Apostate mages are summarily executed because they might become malifircarum.

Also, much of the infrastructure which the Orlesians and Fereldens avail themselves of, such as the Imperial Highway, was created by the Tevinter Imperium.


  • KC_Prototype aime ceci

#31
The Ascendant

The Ascendant
  • Members
  • 1 381 messages

Anyway, going back towards an Orlesain Inquisitor, accent is not indicative of ethnicity. I am Irish and constantly mistaken for English or American due to my accent, so don't completely dismiss the Orlesian theory yet.



#32
AresKeith

AresKeith
  • Members
  • 34 128 messages

Anyway, going back towards an Orlesain Inquisitor, accent is not indicative of ethnicity. I am Irish and constantly mistaken for English or American due to my accent, so don't completely dismiss the Orlesian theory yet.

 

There's also the last name of the human Inquisitor, which sounds more Ferelden than Orlesian 



#33
Lucijenifer

Lucijenifer
  • Members
  • 259 messages

There's also the last name of the human Inquisitor, which sounds more Ferelden than Orlesian 

 

A shame. I'd like to play a character that comes from somewhere other than the land of the dog-people.

 

Also, on a side note ....

 

People are quick to attack Tevinter because of their supposed involvement in creating the blight, their acceptance of slavery, etc.... but I don't really think other nations are in a position to judge.

 

As I have said before in other threads:

  • Racism is endemic in both Orlais and Ferelden.
  • Slavery still exists in both nations, albeit without official government sanction.
  • Orlais committed genocide against the elves and created the Dalish diaspora which we have today.
  • Apostate mages are summarily executed because they might become malifircarum.

Also, much of the infrastructure which the Orlesians and Fereldens avail themselves of, such as the Imperial Highway, was created by the Tevinter Imperium.

 

Without a shadow of a doubt, I love Tevinter. I'd adore the opportunity to explore the Imperium's social structure and what life within it is like. But ultimately, the Tevinter Imperium is far worse than Orlais or Ferelden, no matter how much I'd love the chance to have a closer look at the magisters and their society.



#34
EmperorSahlertz

EmperorSahlertz
  • Members
  • 8 809 messages

Also, on a side note ....

 

People are quick to attack Tevinter because of their supposed involvement in creating the blight, their acceptance of slavery, etc.... but I don't really think other nations are in a position to judge.

 

As I have said before in other threads:

  • Racism is endemic in both Orlais and Ferelden.
  • Slavery still exists in both nations, albeit without official government sanction.
  • Orlais committed genocide against the elves and created the Dalish diaspora which we have today.
  • Apostate mages are summarily executed because they might become malifircarum.

Also, much of the infrastructure which the Orlesians and Fereldens avail themselves of, such as the Imperial Highway, was created by the Tevinter Imperium.

1: Racism towards the Elves is a direct result of the Elves trying to destroy the most powerful human nation and the one religion most humans followed. I am not saying that it is okay, I am saying that the racism was a cultural development brought about by the Elves' own actions.

2: Indentured servitude is not technically slavery, since they aren't regarded as objects in the possession of their master. Technically murder of Elves is illegal in all nations, but no law enforcement organization is ever going to care about it, because of the previously mentioned racism.

3: The Orlesians were not the ones who commited genocide. You could even argue that the Chantry PREVENTED genocide against the Elves, by commanding all human nations to take in Elven refugees and give them a place to live. The aforementioned racism however, and the still fresh wounds caused by the war, however made sure that the Elves got shafted by EVERY human nation, who only provided the bare minimum living space and conditions for the Elven refugees.

4: No they aren't.

 

And lastly it was the Dwarves who built the Imperial Highway.

 

 

There's also the last name of the human Inquisitor, which sounds more Ferelden than Orlesian 

I think the last name can suggest either a Fereldan origin or a Marcher. Marchers and Fereldans have much in common regarding the names.



#35
KC_Prototype

KC_Prototype
  • Members
  • 4 603 messages

I am happy to be a Ferelden again so no...But I think maybe next game will get one. But who knows, we could be Orlesians but with Fereldan accents.



#36
KC_Prototype

KC_Prototype
  • Members
  • 4 603 messages

Also, on a side note ....

 

People are quick to attack Tevinter because of their supposed involvement in creating the blight, their acceptance of slavery, etc.... but I don't really think other nations are in a position to judge.

 

As I have said before in other threads:

  • Racism is endemic in both Orlais and Ferelden.
  • Slavery still exists in both nations, albeit without official government sanction.
  • Orlais committed genocide against the elves and created the Dalish diaspora which we have today.
  • Apostate mages are summarily executed because they might become malifircarum.

Also, much of the infrastructure which the Orlesians and Fereldens avail themselves of, such as the Imperial Highway, was created by the Tevinter Imperium.

I agree but Tevinter has slaves...nuff said.



#37
Lucijenifer

Lucijenifer
  • Members
  • 259 messages

I agree but Tevinter has slaves...nuff said.

 

Don't damn a culture because it has slavery or indentured servitude, damn it because it treats its slave poorly and with great cruelty.



#38
KC_Prototype

KC_Prototype
  • Members
  • 4 603 messages

Don't damn a culture because it has slavery or indentured servitude, damn it because it treats its slave poorly and with great cruelty.

Naw, slavery is bad enough. Even if your master treats you nicely, you're still a slave. No man or woman or child should be owned by another. 



#39
Vegeta 77

Vegeta 77
  • Members
  • 1 133 messages

tumblr_inline_n7mhxpGnEa1sr8gmv.gif

Ferelden 4 life.


  • ManOfSteel aime ceci

#40
Sylvianus

Sylvianus
  • Members
  • 7 775 messages

So apparently the human inquisitor is called Trevelyan ( doesn't sound like a name from ferelden ) and he comes from a family noble.

 

So, I'd say, it's more likely that the PC comes from the Free Marches.



#41
Guest_StreetMagic_*

Guest_StreetMagic_*
  • Guests

So apparently the human inquisitor is called Trevelyan ( doesn't sound like a name from ferelden ) and he comes from a family noble.

 

So, I'd say, it's more likely that the PC comes from the Free Marches.

 

Trevelyan is a Cornish name. Which is southwest Britain.. a celtic segment. It is Ferelden-ish by most accounts.

 

That doesn't necessarily prove it though. Not until we get confirmation.



#42
Sylvianus

Sylvianus
  • Members
  • 7 775 messages

Trevelyan is a Cornish name. Which is southwest Britain.. a celtic segment. It is Ferelden-ish by most accounts.

 

That doesn't necessarily prove it though. Not until we get confirmation.

 

I'm just having hard times thinking that we could have a third fereldan protagonist just because of the accents. LOL



#43
ManOfSteel

ManOfSteel
  • Members
  • 3 716 messages

I'm just having hard times thinking that we could have a third fereldan protagonist just because of the accents. LOL

The Human non-mage Inquisitor is a noble. Given the accent and the name, I've a hard time believing (s)he's anything other than Fereldan.

 

Ferelden is love. Ferelden is life.



#44
Sylvianus

Sylvianus
  • Members
  • 7 775 messages

The Human non-mage Inquisitor is a noble. Given the accent and the name, I've a hard time believing (s)he's anything other than Fereldan.

 

What about the free marches ? They don't have the same accent ? ( I ask because I never played Dragon age in english, only in my native language  )



#45
Guest_StreetMagic_*

Guest_StreetMagic_*
  • Guests

I could never tell the differerence with Marcher accents myself.

 

I would wonder what a Free Marcher is doing here though. It could work, but DAI mostly takes place in Ferelden and Orlais. And you live in an ancient Avvar stronghold. Seems more likely for a Ferelden to make their place in all this.



#46
Sylvianus

Sylvianus
  • Members
  • 7 775 messages

I could never tell the differerence with Marcher accents myself.

 

I would wonder what a Free Marcher is doing here though. It could work, but DAI mostly takes place in Ferelden and Orlais. And you live in an ancient Avvar stronghold. Seems more likely for a Ferelden to make their place in all this.

 

Mmmh, good point. 



#47
Herr Uhl

Herr Uhl
  • Members
  • 13 465 messages

I could never tell the differerence with Marcher accents myself.

 

I would wonder what a Free Marcher is doing here though. It could work, but DAI mostly takes place in Ferelden and Orlais. And you live in an ancient Avvar stronghold. Seems more likely for a Ferelden to make their place in all this.

 

What is a Qunari or a Dwarf or a Dalish doing there?

 

But I'm fully expecting the human to be from Ferelden. Because that is the most generic of all their nations and people are nostalgic for it.



#48
Sylvianus

Sylvianus
  • Members
  • 7 775 messages

If we are from ferelden again, It will be difficult for my Pc to care about Orlais. A shame, really. I mean,my inquisitor would  just need the nation at his sides against the chaos, but won't never feel concerned by its fate. 



#49
Sylvianus

Sylvianus
  • Members
  • 7 775 messages

 

But I'm fully expecting the human to be from Ferelden. Because that is the most generic of all their nations and people are nostalgic for it.

 

I am curious. Why Ferelden is generic ?

 

Personally, I thought there were many people on the DAII board that wished something else than Ferelden while not everyone wanted the same origin. 



#50
Guest_StreetMagic_*

Guest_StreetMagic_*
  • Guests

What is a Qunari or a Dwarf or a Dalish doing there?

 

You tell me. :D