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The main question that I have to ask is why ? Why Cullen is the military adviser of the Inquisition ? 

 

Let us think about this logically. 

 

1) Cullen is a Templar. Or he might be an ex-Templar now. However, he is a good Templar but he is just that. To be the military adviser or a startup organization like the Inquisition, I would think that the person occupying that role be more capable. More capable in a sense that they should have experience leading a military force or managing a military force, being trained to fight different types of enemies and have a good knowledge of military tactics and strategy.

 

Cullen has none of that. Yes, the Templars are the military branch of the Chantry but the Templars spend their lives guarding mages, policing mages, tracking down mages and fighting mages. Templars are not trained in the art of siege battles or military tactics. In fact, I recall the Templar in Lothering in DAO who said that against non-mages, templars are just warriors with heavy armor. 

 

2) Which conveniently brings us to the next point which is Cullen being a Templar. Maybe he might not be one or he quit as one when he joins the Inquisition but I seem to recall that Templars need lyrium to function and almost always, get addicted to lyrium. Even Evangeline, who was one of the best Templars in my opinion, succumbed to it somewhat. How can we trust someone who can succumb to lyrium addiction to matters such as military strategy and tactics ? I am very sure we need clear minds for this sort of thing. 

 

3) There are better candidates for military adviser out there. Sir Michel de Chevin from The Masked Empire. He is an Orlesian Chevalier or a former Chevalier. He actually trained in a proper military institution and survived the grueling tests. Which must also mean he must have knowledge on military tactics and strategy.  He also has a good track record in a sense that he was Empress Celene's bodyguard and champion. He dueled and won against Gaspard. He has faced different types of foes. His knowledge of the Imperial Court and The Grand Game will be very useful to the Inquisitor. Plus, he is a half elf-half human which also makes him interesting. 

 

At least one can justify Leliana being our Espionage Adviser. She is a bard. She was the Left Hand of the Divine.Shadow and stealth is what she is. It makes sense for her to be our adviser in that area. 

 

We do not know anything about Scribbles yet so no comments on her. 

 

All in all, it would have been nice to have Cullen as the leader of the good Templars who are left and are loyal to the Chantry. It would definitely make more logical sense. Him being our military adviser makes no sense to me. The notion that Cullen has somehow become an excellent military strategist in a short period of time (Kirkwall rebellion to Inquisition) is laughable. 

 

Also the whole Cassandra recruited him to be part of the Inquisition is very fishy.  A Seeker recruiting a Templar to be an adviser. Couple that with the fact we have another adviser who is close to the Divine. 

 

Chantry desperately wanting to have an influence / wanting to spy on the Inquisition ? Chantry secretly worried about Inquisitor going mad with glowing hands so they have a Templar, a bard and a Seeker around the Inquisitior ? Hmmm... :whistle:

 

Thoughts and comments ?  ;)

 

 


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The main question that I have to ask is why ? Why Cullen is the military adviser of the Inquisition ? 

 

Let us think about this logically. 

 

1) Cullen is a Templar. Or he might be an ex-Templar now. However, he is a good Templar but he is just that. To be the military adviser or a startup organization like the Inquisition, I would think that the person occupying that role be more capable. More capable in a sense that they should have experience leading a military force or managing a military force, being trained to fight different types of enemies and have a good knowledge of military tactics and strategy.

 

Cullen has none of that. Yes, the Templars are the military branch of the Chantry but the Templars spend their lives guarding mages, policing mages, tracking down mages and fighting mages. Templars are not trained in the art of siege battles or military tactics. In fact, I recall the Templar in Lothering in DAO who said that against non-mages, templars are just warriors with heavy armor. 

 

2) Which conveniently brings us to the next point which is Cullen being a Templar. Maybe he might not be one or he quit as one when he joins the Inquisition but I seem to recall that Templars need lyrium to function and almost always, get addicted to lyrium. Even Evangeline, who was one of the best Templars in my opinion, succumbed to it somewhat. How can we trust someone who can succumb to lyrium addiction to matters such as military strategy and tactics ? I am very sure we need clear minds for this sort of thing. 

 

3) There are better candidates for military adviser out there. Sir Michel de Chevin from The Masked Empire. He is an Orlesian Chevalier or a former Chevalier. He actually trained in a proper military institution and survived the grueling tests. Which must also mean he must have knowledge on military tactics and strategy.  He also has a good track record in a sense that he was Empress Celene's bodyguard and champion. He dueled and won against Gaspard. He has faced different types of foes. His knowledge of the Imperial Court and The Grand Game will be very useful to the Inquisitor. Plus, he is a half elf-half human which also makes him interesting. 

 

At least one can justify Leliana being our Espionage Adviser. She is a bard. She was the Left Hand of the Divine.Shadow and stealth is what she is. It makes sense for her to be our adviser in that area. 

 

We do not know anything about Scribbles yet so no comments on her. 

 

All in all, it would have been nice to have Cullen as the leader of the good Templars who are left and are loyal to the Chantry. It would definitely make more logical sense. Him being our military adviser makes no sense to me. The notion that Cullen has somehow become an excellent military strategist in a short period of time (Kirkwall rebellion to Inquisition) is laughable. 

 

Also the whole Cassandra recruited him to be part of the Inquisition is very fishy.  A Seeker recruiting a Templar to be an adviser. Couple that with the fact we have another adviser who is close to the Divine. 

 

Chantry desperately wanting to have an influence / wanting to spy on the Inquisition ? Chantry secretly worried about Inquisitor going mad with glowing hands so they have a Templar, a bard and a Seeker around the Inquisitior ? Hmmm... :whistle:

 

Thoughts and comments ?  ;)

 

1.Don't forget that Cullen has been a Knight-Captain for at least 6 years and that he led the templars after Hawke left Kirkwall (around 3 years?)

2.The Chantry still controls Lyrium trade,and The Inquisition is supported by the Chantry

3.[SPOILERS FOR THE MASKED EMPIRE]Sir Michel always followed the empress' orders or the chevaliers' code. Once Celene got rid of him,he started hunting Imshael down because he didn't know what else to do. Poor guy can't think with his head. Plus,his mission has priority on anything else,I'd assume.

 

Also,Justinia is dead. Cassandra and Leliana join the Inquisition because it was pretty much the Divine's "Plan B". Oh,and because they wholeheartedly believe the Inquisition can set things right.

 

I think that we should,however,wait for the game to release or at least wait for the interview about Cullen being released tomorrow before deciding whether or not a character fits their role


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I'm somehow guessing that Michel will still be with Celene in the game. It is a bit like complaining that you didn't get Ser Cauthrien to join you in DAO.


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Hmm, I see your points, but I think Cullen would've been made Knight-Captain in the first place for a reason. He's clearly got some leadership qualities. In his new profile, it's said he takes charge in Kirkwall and helps set the city straight after it's destruction as well.

 

Besides that, he was also a popular NPC with lots of untapped character potential. We don't know how he's changed over the past few in game years, either. David Gaider has said in the past he's loathe to bring back characters if it doesn't make sense for them to be there. Give him a chance, I'm sure it'll all make sense once we get to know him better in game. 


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Cullen lead our army probably because Cassandra picked him.

I guess he stayed loyal to the Divine or something.

 

1/Templars do some battles , sometimes .Exalted Marches.So they are probably trained.

2/He probably keeps on drinking the blue stuff , and will be fine (well in twenty years he'll be lucky if he can remember his own name.But that's not really a problem for the Inquisition)

3/I don't remember any big war strategist ...but again templars are trained .They are one of the biggest army.

 

And yeah the Inquisition is influenced by the Chantry , well some by Chantry folk who are more open minded.

All your main leaders are from the Chantry , and Cassandra picked them so...Let's hope the Inquisitor is more than a conveniant figurehead . :D



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I'd actually say Blackwall seems like he would have been a good candidate. He was fairly high-ranking in the Wardens. 

 

Plus, I would never trust a man without a beard to lead my armies. Thus, Blackwall.


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It's funny. I had a soft spot for Cullen because he's been around so long. But after looking at his new picture and reading the quick bio, I really, really, really don't trust him anymore.

Maybe it's the new hair, but my fanboy brain is screaming, "that's not Cullen! He's here to destroy us all!"


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Well he may have some drawbacks in the issue of long term experience but he is a Knight-Captain with first hand experience and knowledge on Templar tactics and how to deal with blood mage threats.  Two things we will have to deal with.

He's likely to have information and valuable input regarding the Red Templars and maybe some connections with the regular Templar forces. All that said, he's only one advisor and there'll be others with different opinions and expertise to offer.



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I honestly think blackwall would have been a better military adviser...
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I'm somehow guessing that Michel will still be with Celene in the game. It is a bit like complaining that you didn't get Ser Cauthrien to join you in DAO.


I find that doubtful. Remember that Michel could have killed Gaspard at the end of their duel, but instead he keeps his promise to Briala, and throws the duel. Celine probably considers this to be something of a betrayal. I agree that he would have been a sensible choice for military advisor, but since the Inquisition is founded by people loyal to the Divine, Cullen is a decent prospect.

Who knows, if Cullen was left acting Knight-Commander in Kirkwall, that might make him the highest ranking Templar left after Lambert splits them and the Seekers away from the Chantry.

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Cullen has seen some ****.

His role is kind of gone I guess, so he is available, and I think he's capable of the task.
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I wish we could choose our advisors. I planned on playing a military focused Inquisition, but I don't like Cullen at all and would rather not have to deal with him.


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The main question that I have to ask is why ? Why Cullen is the military adviser of the Inquisition ? 

 

Let us think about this logically. 

 

1) Cullen is a Templar. Or he might be an ex-Templar now. However, he is a good Templar but he is just that. To be the military adviser or a startup organization like the Inquisition, I would think that the person occupying that role be more capable. More capable in a sense that they should have experience leading a military force or managing a military force, being trained to fight different types of enemies and have a good knowledge of military tactics and strategy.

 

Cullen has none of that. Yes, the Templars are the military branch of the Chantry but the Templars spend their lives guarding mages, policing mages, tracking down mages and fighting mages. Templars are not trained in the art of siege battles or military tactics. In fact, I recall the Templar in Lothering in DAO who said that against non-mages, templars are just warriors with heavy armor. 

 

2) Which conveniently brings us to the next point which is Cullen being a Templar. Maybe he might not be one or he quit as one when he joins the Inquisition but I seem to recall that Templars need lyrium to function and almost always, get addicted to lyrium. Even Evangeline, who was one of the best Templars in my opinion, succumbed to it somewhat. How can we trust someone who can succumb to lyrium addiction to matters such as military strategy and tactics ? I am very sure we need clear minds for this sort of thing. 

 

3) There are better candidates for military adviser out there. Sir Michel de Chevin from The Masked Empire. He is an Orlesian Chevalier or a former Chevalier. He actually trained in a proper military institution and survived the grueling tests. Which must also mean he must have knowledge on military tactics and strategy.  He also has a good track record in a sense that he was Empress Celene's bodyguard and champion. He dueled and won against Gaspard. He has faced different types of foes. His knowledge of the Imperial Court and The Grand Game will be very useful to the Inquisitor. Plus, he is a half elf-half human which also makes him interesting. 

 

At least one can justify Leliana being our Espionage Adviser. She is a bard. She was the Left Hand of the Divine.Shadow and stealth is what she is. It makes sense for her to be our adviser in that area. 

 

We do not know anything about Scribbles yet so no comments on her. 

 

All in all, it would have been nice to have Cullen as the leader of the good Templars who are left and are loyal to the Chantry. It would definitely make more logical sense. Him being our military adviser makes no sense to me. The notion that Cullen has somehow become an excellent military strategist in a short period of time (Kirkwall rebellion to Inquisition) is laughable. 

 

Also the whole Cassandra recruited him to be part of the Inquisition is very fishy.  A Seeker recruiting a Templar to be an adviser. Couple that with the fact we have another adviser who is close to the Divine. 

 

Chantry desperately wanting to have an influence / wanting to spy on the Inquisition ? Chantry secretly worried about Inquisitor going mad with glowing hands so they have a Templar, a bard and a Seeker around the Inquisitior ? Hmmm... :whistle:

 

Thoughts and comments ?  ;)

1) Cullen was a Templar Knight-Captain, and later Knight-Commander. He no doubt fought Qunari soldiers when they attacked in Kirkwall, and is experienced with abominations, mages, and demons. And you know... The Breach is a thing. Our main goal in fact. Not only that, but he apparently helped restore order in Kirkwall after DA2 ended. With help from Aveline I bet. In other words, he does have experience.

 

2) Lyrium addiction has no effect on your mental state unless you are in a state of withdrawal. And since Cullen obviously isn't, we can assume he has a Lyrium supply. He has a clear mind, and so long as he has (blue) lyrium, then he'll be fine. And we're the Inquisition; we can afford a little lyrium.

 

3) Don't call him that, that's not his name. Its just Michel.

Anyways, Michel has no military expertise. He guards Celene, and fought off soldiers and is a Chevalier but has never commanded anyone, not even a small unit. He is a bodyguard, not a captain/commander. If I ever see Michel, I'll be sure to kill him for betraying Celene, lying about his name, releasing an ancient demon, killing a Dalish Clan, and generally messing up his entire life. Disloyal, dishonoured, an enemy of the Empress... Do you really want him on your side? You would make Celene your enemy instantly.

 

4) The Divine is likely dead. The Seekers are basically a step-up from Templars. Lord Seeker Lambert was a Templar; he was the one who broke them off from the Chantry. If Cassandra can bring a Blue Lyrium Templar back into the fold, more will follow. In other words, the Chantry is broken right now. Or atleast, I think it is. Toothless without a Templar army, and their leader dead. Why else would both hands of the divine be following the Inquisitor?



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The blurb stated that Cassandra thought he was a vital asset to the inquisition after seeing Cullen's leadership and integrity when rallying the remained templars in Kirkwall and restoring order in the city.

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Also the whole Cassandra recruited him to be part of the Inquisition is very fishy.  A Seeker recruiting a Templar to be an adviser. Couple that with the fact we have another adviser who is close to the Divine. 

 

I don't think Cassandra recruited him to be an adviser, he was recruited before the game start when she was in Kirkwall in DA2. That's the only time where she could have recruited him.  He's probably just the guy with the most experience leading soldiers among the small starting Inquisition troop (after Cassandra) at the start of the game.


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Because he Cullen...that alone gives him more than enough recommendation to be the Military advisor of the Inquisition. 



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Damn man, you just spoiled parts of Asunder and The Masked Empire for me. Can you please add a spoiler tag or something to save another life? 


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I can't wai to see the interview/profile about him.

But the truth is Templars are a military force and has you gain rank, you most likely get more and more military training which means leadership and how to lead. And in the end he rallied the templars of kirkwall after the hawke mess there which would take leadership.

So makes sense he would be the leader with the wars and the civil wars also, he is also the closest your getting to an unbias military advisor to boot.

But till the interview/profile we will not know why other then Cass saw something in him.



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Actually, come to think of it, I would rather have someone like Blackwall as a Military Adviser. 

 

Grey Warden > Templar. 

 

Or even a high ranking Chevalier member. 


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I'll GLADLY trade Blackwall for Cullen. Blackwall can be a NPC and Cullen can be a companion romance... :whistle:
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I wish we could choose our advisors. I planned on playing a military focused Inquisition, but I don't like Cullen at all and would rather not have to deal with him.

 

Same here. I wish the Inquisitor can fire the ones they do not like and appoint the ones they want. In the same way we can choose not to recruit our followers into the Inquisition. 


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I'll GLADLY trade Blackwall for Cullen. Blackwall can be a NPC and Cullen can be a companion romance... :whistle:

 

Is BSN all about romance or something ?  :(

 

Being a capable military adviser has no relation to romance. 

 

By the way, is Cullen the Knight-Commander ? I thought he is the Knight Captain.

 

As for handling chaos and restoring leadership in Kirkwall after the rebellion, I present to you :-  Guard Captain Aveline + Kirkwall Guard. The only neutral armed forces in Kirkwall. 

 

The templars would be too divided and would have sustained losses to maintain order in that city.  



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Is BSN all about romance or something ?  :(
 
Being a capable military adviser has no relation to romance. 
 
By the way, is Cullen the Knight-Commander ? I thought he is the Knight Captain.
 
As for handling chaos and restoring leadership in Kirkwall after the rebellion, I present to you :-  Guard Captain Aveline + Kirkwall Guard. The only neutral armed forces in Kirkwall. 
 
The templars would be too divided and would have sustained losses to maintain order in that city.

...they directly state that Cullen restored order in Kirkwall.
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I think it's a bit nonsensical, but no more so than Leliana's rocketing from houseguest of the chantry to left hand of the divine. I'm willing to suspend disbelief. 



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because of his "popularity" Bioware decided to make him a main character to make Cullenites happy.. other than his apparent leadership skills, I don't really see him as being qualified as a military adviser.. sure he was a knight-captain/knight-commander  but does that really qualify him for the job?  

 

I wish we could choose our advisors. I planned on playing a military focused Inquisition, but I don't like Cullen at all and would rather not have to deal with him.

Yeah, it'd be great if we could actually act like the leader of the Inquisition and choose who we want to as advisers.. i'd lose it if we could choose Loghain if he survived DA:O.. he in my opinion would make the best possible Military Adviser since he actually has some experience with the job.


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