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As for handling chaos and restoring leadership in Kirkwall after the rebellion, I present to you :-  Guard Captain Aveline + Kirkwall Guard. The only neutral armed forces in Kirkwall. 

 

 

I didn't think about Aveline!

I would take Aveline over anyone!

On a side I'm pretty sure we're stuck with the advisors.

It's a bit strange since we're supposed to be leading the Inquisition.You'd think a leader could choose his generals and stuff...

Anyway I'm also not very surprised.

Lorewise it makes sense people from the Chantry are rebuilding the Inquisition.

Also makes sense they'd want to control it , since the last one ended in the favor of the Chantry.



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I think it's a bit nonsensical, but no more so than Leliana's rocketing from houseguest of the chantry to left hand of the divine. I'm willing to suspect disbelief.

The left hand should basically a highy skilled assassin and spy. Since Leliana is very loyal to the divine, and it's one of the best in this field (not to mention I doubt there are many templar or Seekers fit to the job), it makes perfect sense to me. Her role as the Left Hand is completely related to her abilities.

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It's funny. I had a soft spot for Cullen because he's been around so long. But after looking at his new picture and reading the quick bio, I really, really, really don't trust him anymore.

Maybe it's the new hair, but my fanboy brain is screaming, "that's not Cullen! He's here to destroy us all!"

Wow, didn't know there is a new pic for Cullen. After seeing his new picture. I want him to be bisexual. Don't even care if he's an NPC romance. 

 

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I don't think he's evil. If Hollywood had taught me anything, it's that good looking people can't be evil.


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I'm not sure if Blackwall would do a better job than Cullen, because we don't actually know anything about him, but here are their resumes, I suppose (Based off our very limited information): 

Blackwall has an unwavering commitment to the Grey Wardens, he's a veteran, but we don't know if he actually ever took a leadership roll. He cares a lot about the Warden legacy and about them as legends. He despises positions of power and how people often abuse them, but prefers being a troop over putting himself above others.

 

Cullen has years of experience as a templar, including being in leadership positions. He's got experience recruiting, training and leading troops. He seems to believe in the firm but fair approach. He's dealt with two mage uprisings and the Fade, he had a key role in restoring a notable city after it's destruction.

 

They both have bias towards their respective alignments, however Cullen has been known to question and go against orders for the greater good.

 

To me, with what we know now, Cullen seems like the best choice. But we really won't know until the game comes out.  ^_^


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I'll GLADLY trade Blackwall for Cullen. Blackwall can be a NPC and Cullen can be a companion romance... :whistle:

I would take Cullen over blackwell because I have no idea of Blackwall leadership skill in the the interview they state nothing about leading and make thinks is just a great warrior who would want the job in the first place because he would rather be making things right 

Also blackwall could be very close to his calling making his mental state just a tad bit questionable where as cullen will be good forever as long as he gets his lyrium he will be fine 



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I'm going for a more political based Inquisition, so I don't really care what he does as long as he doesn't start with a bunch of anti-mage bullcrap.

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This has been said before, if Culle is going to be a military adviser, he'll need some serious character development. Cullen makes most of his decisions based on fear. If he stays the same in DA:I, he'll be nothing more than fan service.


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We're talking about a medieval military here. If Cullen reads, and specifically reads books about military tactics, that probably qualifies him about as much as anyone on the continent. 

 

Professional armies are not a thing in Thedas. 


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I didn't think about Aveline!

I would take Aveline over anyone!

On a side I'm pretty sure we're stuck with the advisors.

It's a bit strange since we're supposed to be leading the Inquisition.You'd think a leader could choose his generals and stuff...

Anyway I'm also not very surprised.

Lorewise it makes sense people from the Chantry are rebuilding the Inquisition.

Also makes sense they'd want to control it , since the last one ended in the favor of the Chantry.

 

It's a bit strange since we're supposed to be leading the Inquisition.You'd think a leader could choose his generals and stuff...

 

Tell me about it. I thought I could choose my generals, my spymaster and my ambassador / diplomat. I mean I choose who fights with me anyway....

 

My Inquisitors are going to disappoint the Chantry very badly, of that I am very sure. 

 

 

This has been said before, if Culle is going to be a military adviser, he'll need to serious character development. Cullen makes most of his decisions based on fear. If he stays the same in DA:I, he'll be nothing more than fan service.

 

Exactly. His fear of mages was born out of fear.His treatment towards templar recruits was born out of fear. No military adviser does military advising by using fear.


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I would take Cullen over blackwell because I have no idea of Blackwall leadership skill in the the interview they state nothing about leading and make thinks is just a great warrior who would want the job in the first place because he would rather be making things right 

Also blackwall could be very close to his calling making his mental state just a tad bit questionable where as cullen will be good forever as long as he gets his lyrium he will be fine 

Doesn't Lyrium evutally burn out a templar though, if I recall a certian older templar in Origins right? Though they never forget their purpose.

But Cullen is at-least 30 years from such a state.



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We're talking about a medieval military here. If Cullen reads, and specifically reads books about military tactics, that probably qualifies him about as much as anyone on the continent. 

 

Professional armies are not a thing in Thedas. 

 

You would be surprised how tactical medieval military can get. Formations for attacking, defending, siege, dealing with archers, dealing with mages, counter formation, coordinating military advising with espionage results, deploying and using siege equipments, horseback infantry, etc. 


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You would be surprised how tactical medieval military can get. Formations for attacking, defending, siege, dealing with archers, dealing with mages, counter formation, coordinating military advising with espionage results, deploying and using siege equipments, horseback infantry, etc. 

And dragon age sort of strikes me has late medievil and high medievil which means tactics got used more often then most would assume depending on country and who was king/queen..

A lott of the dumb tactics happen in more early points in the era before the crusdes. 

And some countries even required the peasants to be able to use at-least one weapon in case they where called on,



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After his competences in kirkwall well lets say that i wouldn't put him even in rank of soldier but well fanservice.


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You would be surprised how tactical medieval military can get. Formations for attacking, defending, siege, dealing with archers, dealing with mages, counter formation, coordinating military advising with espionage results, deploying and using siege equipments, horseback infantry, etc. 

hell the angle a formation attacks another formation has a huge bearing on the outcome of the melee...just look at the classical Phalanx, it was untouchable from their left, but if you could encircle their left they were doomed.Also as formations engage in combat they tend to move in predictable patterns, great generals were able to understand this and manipulate it to achieve victory.



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You know, Alistair says that even though they mainly deal with mages, Templars are an army. Im inclined to agree with that. Though I don't see how lucid his mind can be with his possibly ongoing hate spree and lyrium addiction.



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We're talking about a medieval military here. If Cullen reads, and specifically reads books about military tactics, that probably qualifies him about as much as anyone on the continent. 

 

Professional armies are not a thing in Thedas. 

As someone who has studied history, especially military history, I have to ask, what planet do you live on?


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well cassandra saw something in him that would make a good military adviser. i agree he wouldn't make a good one if he hasn't changed from DA2, but it seems like he has a lot along with the other characters. he is influential and has experience leading from his time as a knight commander. he is strong. i don't think he makes a bad candidate. he really wants to bring order back to thedas. 



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In the DAO Battle of Denerim, the templars can be one of your groups of allies depending on what choices you made while questing. So Cullen (along with others) was probably fighting darkspawn there. It's only one battle, true, but it suggests that templars can and do gain military experience when required.



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It's a bit strange since we're supposed to be leading the Inquisition.You'd think a leader could choose his generals and stuff...

 

Tell me about it. I thought I could choose my generals, my spymaster and my ambassador / diplomat. I mean I choose who fights with me anyway....

 

My Inquisitors are going to disappoint the Chantry very badly, of that I am very sure. 

 

 
 

 

Exactly. His fear of mages was born out of fear.His treatment towards templar recruits was born out of fear. No military adviser does military advising by using fear.

 

 

His fear and hatred of mages was born out of being tortured by demons in origins and depending on Hawke's choice in DA 2 he starts to trust mages a little bit more before the incident so we don't how he changed from then and how he come to reflect on the period and in the end of  Da 2 Does he not stand up to a crazed KC Meredith which doesn't strike me of cowardice and It is smart to fear something if it is the right thing because fear is just another way of respecting something dangerous  

Doesn't Lyrium evutally burn out a templar though, if I recall a certian older templar in Origins right? Though they never forget their purpose.

But Cullen is at-least 30 years from such a state.

Yes  you are right but as you said Cullen is a far from that age and I doubt Blackwall is that far away 


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That's what happens when you get a few fan girls (and boys) swooning over a irrelevant character. He had a crush on your fem mage and it got the girls squeeing and thus Bioware had a ninche. Sure they will say "We think there is potential for a a good story for Cullen." While in reality its nothing more than pandering fan service. So long as he has the fans swooning he will continue to be a forced tag along.
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That's what happens when you get a few fan girls (and boys) swooning over a irrelevant character. He had a crush on your fem mage and it got the girls squeeing and thus Bioware had a ninche. Sure they will say "We think there is potential for a a good story for Cullen." While in reality its nothing more than pandering fan service. So long as he has the fans swooning he will continue to be a forced tag along.

 

Being this cynical must get pretty boring. I honestly do believe that Cullen might not have been brought back if it wasn't for his fans, but that doesn't necessarily mean his presence will feel forced, irrelevant or that he doesn't have character potential. Hopefully you get a big bro crush on him in game and he proves you wrong.  :P


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I think those who know best whether Cullen is fit for the position of military adviser are those who are making the game, not speculating fans who have not played it.

 

I think it is patently false that Cullen was added just as fan service, which was addressed back in January by David Gaider here on this very forum: http://forum.bioware...vice/?bioware=1

 

I think people should hold their judgments at least until they have actually played the game first. 


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I didn't think much of Cullen up until the moment I saw his character page. Seriously Bioware? So now not only we have a broken then retconned incompetent little man to be the adviser, but we have to second guess the decision making of Cassandra as well. Nice.

 

Who is the guy that comes up with these things? "Rallied the templars"? What does that even mean. Is that a retcon too? Where is Hawke? There were reinforcements impound. What did he had to do? Bark out an order? Not only you force irrelevant characters into your story but you have to give backstory that messes with the established lore. Good job.


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I have no idea why he's the military advisor. The only one who I would pick is Loghain for the job, but he could be dead in DAO.

 

In DAO, we barely know anything about him.

 

In DA2, he's Knight - Captain. I would be curious as to  how he obtained that position in such a short time from when we saw him in DAO. I will say in DA2, he grew a backbone especially at the end when he stood up against Meredith.

 

I see nothing that would make me want him as an advisor, let alone a military advisor, and since I can't come up with anyone else,  I guess he will have to do.



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I didn't think much of Cullen up until the moment I saw his character page. Seriously Bioware? So now not only we have a broken then retconned incompetent little man to be the adviser, but we have to second guess the decision making of Cassandra as well. Nice.

 

Who is the guy that comes up with these things? "Rallied the templars"? What does that even mean. Is that a retcon too? Where is Hawke? There were reinforcements impound. What did he had to do? Bark out an order? Not only you force irrelevant characters into your story but you have to give backstory that messes with the established lore. Good job.

Well that only covers about half of the possible world sates there could be and also the templars would work with hawke but they would follow they would most like look to their highest possible remaining member who is Cullen and other than Aveline he maybe only one trying to lead the city and Maybe this is me not remembering right or misinterpreting the ending but Aveline maybe beforced to leave depending on the ending    

 

I have no idea why he's the military advisor. The only one who I would pick is Loghain for the job, but he could be dead in DAO.

 

In DAO, we barely know anything about him.

 

In DA2, he's Knight - Captain. I would be curious as to  how he obtained that position in such a short time from when we saw him in DAO. I will say in DA2, he grew a backbone especially at the end when he stood up against Meredith.

 

I see nothing that would make me want him as an advisor, let alone a military advisor, and since I can't come up with anyone else,  I guess he will have to do.

 

 He obtained the position from the potential K Commander Meredith saw a good while before she got the red lyrium and went crazy