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[tmp7704]

I don't know, that image looks exactly how I'm picturing Cullen's advisory performance.

[Lost_In_Anarchy]

You know it's coming...................... 

 

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Cullen and his ignorance, seriously if he is still like that this is all I can Imagine halfway through the game.

 

Inquisitor: Cullen, I love you.

Cullen: I love you too.

Inquisitor: You mean to say that you really don't mind that I'm a...... I'm a.........

*Cullen smiles his encouragement*

Inquisitor: You hold nothing against me being a Mage then?

Cullen: *Gasp* You're a Mage? But.... but how can this be?

Inquisitor: What, you didn't know?

Cullen: I can't believe this whole time you have been a Mage and you haven't told me. I feel so deceived!

Inquisitor: Wow, you really are obtuse, aren't you? Maker, I need a drink.

 

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I sooo cracked up laughing at this. Maker NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Cullen, you have to be sharper or people will eat you up and feed you to a high dragon. Prove to them you are ready for the Inquisition.

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

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I sooo cracked up laughing at this. Maker NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Cullen, you have to be sharper or people will eat you up and feed you to a high dragon. Prove to them you are ready for the Inquisition.

 

Damn it, I need a new fist bump! You're one is way cooler than my crap 90's street fighter one 

[RGC_Ines]

Guess what I'm going to say? Guess? LIKE!

 

I'm not sure why so many seem to miss the difference between adviser and leader. We do have the option to ignore our advisers. Why wouldn't we? And these characters are much more than their faith. I will remind people again to read the books and go back and play Origins-DA2. Go in with an open mind and really listen to what the characters say and not just see them as agents of the Chantry. If they still dislike a character, cool. They may learn a little empathy however and see the other side of the coin. Even better. But to try to go into DA:I with heels dug in going NO NO NO, that's just silly.

And Im interesting in one thing..who You will lead if Cullen will turn against You? You really think You can ignore someone who commands the Inquisition's military forces? Or someone who is spy Master and a resource of vital info? Or ( if Scribe is pro Chantry) someone who kept  Inquisition's cash? Good luck with that if You will be cut off from soldiers, money and any info about yours enemies. A lot of ppl here don't want to understand anti Chantry players. All you are saying is that we " hate" certain character. It's not true, we just havn't any proof that Cullen, Leliana, Cassandra can put away theirs beliefs and support pro mage PC. Maybe Im wrong, but right now, knowing those three from previous games I don't belive in theirs support. Would be a lot of easier for everyone if Adviser become someone new, or at last not all Advisers become from Pro-Chantry Camp.

[themikefest]

Ok, I respect that. I have laid out my reasons in a few post as to why I think he will make a fine adviser. I would love to know the reasons why you wouldn't.

In DAO, if you choose the mage origin, he's very shy around women. If you want to be a leader, shyness has to be thrown in the garbage otherwise you will be taken advantage of because that is a weakness. After stopping Uldred, he wants all mages killed just to be safe without any regards that some may not be possessed. He over reacts when he doesn't need to.

 

In DA2, he mentions that he has a hard time talking with the ladies.  Again, his shyness is holding him back from doing his job. So Hawke investigates the whereabouts of the recruits. After helping Keran, its through Hawkes influence that Cullen decides what punishment to give Keran

 

After killing Grace and if Hawke sides with the Templars near the end, Cullen asks for suggestions from Hawke. Again, outside influence plays a role in his decision making.

 

Its only when facing Meredith at the end, that Cullen steps up to the plate and tells Meredith to stand down. His backbone grew at that moment. He did it on his own accord without any outside influence. I commend him for that, even though Meredith is my favorite character in DA2.

 

After the ending, it's anybody's guess at what he did. I'm sure he had a lot of help from the city guard and private citizens to get Kirkwall back on its feet

 

Just so you know, I like the character, but from what I've seen I would not make him my advisor.  Since he will be the advisor in DAI, I will have to adapt and overcome like I did so many times when I was in the military.

[The Elder King]

He has all the reason to want mages killed in DAO (even if completely disagree). Do you expect a person that suffered torture for weeks, to be reasonable some hours later?
His shyness is definitely something he should deal with.
On after DA2, the blurb seems to imply that he is the person more responsible of to the restoration of Kirkwall, and while doing so he shown leadership skill. Which means after the events in DA2 he grew as a person, and learnt to stand out. While he wasn't obviously alone (nobody can restore a city alone, even less a city like Kirkwall ), he still seem the one who lead the situation.

[Lebanese Dude]

In DAO, if you choose the mage origin, he's very shy around women. If you want to be a leader, shyness has to be thrown in the garbage otherwise you will be taken advantage of because that is a weakness. After stopping Uldred, he wants all mages killed just to be safe without any regards that some may not be possessed. He over reacts when he doesn't need to.

 

In DA2, he mentions that he has a hard time talking with the ladies.  Again, his shyness is holding him back from doing his job. So Hawke investigates the whereabouts of the recruits. After helping Keran, its through Hawkes influence that Cullen decides what punishment to give Keran

 

After killing Grace and if Hawke sides with the Templars near the end, Cullen asks for suggestions from Hawke. Again, outside influence plays a role in his decision making.

 

Its only when facing Meredith at the end, that Cullen steps up to the plate and tells Meredith to stand down. His backbone grew at that moment. He did it on his own accord without any outside influence. I commend him for that, even though Meredith is my favorite character in DA2.

 

After the ending, it's anybody's guess at what he did. I'm sure he had a lot of help from the city guard and private citizens to get Kirkwall back on its feet

 

Just so you know, I like the character, but from what I've seen I would not make him my advisor.  Since he will be the advisor in DAI, I will have to adapt and overcome like I did so many times when I was in the military.

 

I don't get why people keep bringing up his characterization in the past two games. 

 

People change over time and Cullen, as a presumably well-written character, is no exception to this.

 

The interview implies that he's done with being a follower and is ready to begin leading. It's not uncommon for people to rise above their own limitations and achieve remarkable things.

 

We literally have no idea how he has changed after making the decision to countermand Meredith's orders. People can change in an instant, and again, Cullen is no exception.

 

So you have the right to say that your current views on Cullen would not make you appoint him as an adviser, but Cassandra has seen him in action and she has appointed him as military adviser to the inquisition. Unless you believe that the writers are just shoving in Cullen and retconning Cassandra's hard-assness in her duty, I don't see why anyone here thinks they are more qualified than the writers in deciding whether Cullen is suitable for the role.

 

As a side note, no great leader has ever done everything on their own. Of course Cullen would have help in restoring order to Kirkwall. That's not a weakness. That's an understanding of one's limitations and working to overcome them via delegation. 

[Lost_In_Anarchy]

In DAO, if you choose the mage origin, he's very shy around women. If you want to be a leader, shyness has to be thrown in the garbage otherwise you will be taken advantage of because that is a weakness. After stopping Uldred, he wants all mages killed just to be safe without any regards that some may not be possessed. He over reacts when he doesn't need to.

 

In DA2, he mentions that he has a hard time talking with the ladies.  Again, his shyness is holding him back from doing his job. So Hawke investigates the whereabouts of the recruits. After helping Keran, its through Hawkes influence that Cullen decides what punishment to give Keran

 

After killing Grace and if Hawke sides with the Templars near the end, Cullen asks for suggestions from Hawke. Again, outside influence plays a role in his decision making.

 

Its only when facing Meredith at the end, that Cullen steps up to the plate and tells Meredith to stand down. His backbone grew at that moment. He did it on his own accord without any outside influence. I commend him for that, even though Meredith is my favorite character in DA2.

 

After the ending, it's anybody's guess at what he did. I'm sure he had a lot of help from the city guard and private citizens to get Kirkwall back on its feet

 

Just so you know, I like the character, but from what I've seen I would not make him my advisor.  Since he will be the advisor in DAI, I will have to adapt and overcome like I did so many times when I was in the military.

Ok thank you. Now how much of his age do you take into account in DA:O, because he is young and surely youth would have to play a role in how someone behaves just as much as how they react to a severely traumatizing event? And being socially awkward around the opposite doesn't necessarily mean he couldn't lead. I know plenty of soldiers who would rather face an entire enemy platoon than try and talk to someone they found attractive and they are great soldiers and some wonderful, well liked leaders of their squads. And yes he asks Hawke for his/her opinion on what he should say to Meredith with Alain. Exasperatedly I might add. It to me read more a courtesy, with the sigh beforehand, since Hawke got there first and the battle is already over. That to me indicates a willingness to weigh a situation and not just act, again smart leadership. We have no idea if he actually does what Hawke suggests since there in no further mention of Alain, to my knowledge. Cullen also steps up I might add prior to telling Meredith to stand down if you sided with the templars. I posted that vid. He does vocalize an opinion, like an adviser would, and the PC chooses to ignore or accept his advice. The biggest thing is that since the events in Kirkwall we don't know what military role his has been playing, but it is apparent from the bio he has been playing one. This is why I think it is premature to outright say he is unfit to be the military adviser. The seeds were planted toward a strong, well liked leader at the end of Da:2. I see no reason to think that those seeds didn't grow.

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

And Im interesting in one thing..who You will lead if Cullen will turn against You? You really think You can ignore someone who commands the Inquisition's military forces? Or someone who is spy Master and a resource of vital info? Or ( if Scribe is pro Chantry) someone who kept  Inquisition's cash? Good luck with that if You will be cut off from soldiers, money and any info about yours enemies. A lot of ppl here don't want to understand anti Chantry players. All you are saying is that we " hate" certain character. It's not true, we just havn't any proof that Cullen, Leliana, Cassandra can put away theirs beliefs and support pro mage PC. Maybe Im wrong, but right now, knowing those three from previous games I don't belive in theirs support. Would be a lot of easier for everyone if Adviser become someone new, or at last not all Advisers become from Pro-Chantry Camp.

 

Why do you think they will turn against the Inquisitor? They are there to help stop the breach, so if that's is what your Inquisitor is doing what's the problem? Is it so hard to believe that these people can put aside their own beliefs for the good of Thedas. It all rests on the Inquisitions shoulders and I'm pretty sure that they aren't petty enough to screw you over because your Inquisitor has a different belief system to theirs. Maybe you need to take into consideration that the beliefs of your Inquisitor aren't as important as making sure that Thedas survives what could ultimately destroy it. You pretty much saying that these three characters are too closed minded to be of any service but you sound just as close minded as them. Also, I'm not pro-Chantry and I'm not pro-circle as it stands in Thedas at this point in time.    

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

He has all the reason to want mages killed in DAO (even if completely disagree). Do you expect a person that suffered torture for weeks, to be reasonable some hours later?
His shyness is definitely something he should deal with.
On after DA2, the blurb seems to imply that he is the person more responsible of to the restoration of Kirkwall, and while doing so he shown leadership skill. Which means after the events in DA2 he grew as a person, and learnt to stand out. While he wasn't obviously alone (nobody can restore a city alone, even less a city like Kirkwall ), he still seem the one who lead the situation.

 

 

I don't get why people keep bringing up his characterization in the past two games. 

 

People change over time and Cullen, as a presumably well-written character, is no exception to this.

 

The interview implies that he's done with being a follower and is ready to begin leading. It's not uncommon for people to rise above their own limitations and achieve remarkable things.

 

We literally have no idea how he has changed after making the decision to countermand Meredith's orders. People can change in an instant, and again, Cullen is no exception.

 

So you have the right to say that your current views on Cullen would not make you appoint him as an adviser, but Cassandra has seen him in action and she has appointed him as military adviser to the inquisition. Unless you believe that the writers are just shoving in Cullen and retconning Cassandra's hard-assness in her duty, I don't see why anyone here thinks they are more qualified than the writers in deciding whether Cullen is suitable for the role.

 

As a side note, no great leader has ever done everything on their own. Of course Cullen would have help in restoring order to Kirkwall. That's not a weakness. That's an understanding of one's limitations and working to overcome them via delegation. 

 

 

Ok thank you. Now how much of his age do you take into account in DA:O, because he is young and surely youth would have to play a role in how someone behaves just as much as how they react to a severely traumatizing event? And being socially awkward around the opposite doesn't necessarily mean he couldn't lead. I know plenty of soldiers who would rather face an entire enemy platoon than try and talk to someone they found attractive and they are great soldiers and some wonderful, well liked leaders of their squads. And yes he asks Hawke for his/her opinion on what he should say to Meredith with Alain. Exasperatedly I might add. It to me read more a courtesy, with the sigh beforehand, since Hawke got there first and the battle is already over. That to me indicates a willingness to weigh a situation and not just act, again smart leadership. We have no idea if he actually does what Hawke suggests since there in no further mention of Alain, to my knowledge. Cullen also steps up I might add prior to telling Meredith to stand down if you sided with the templars. I posted that vid. He does vocalize an opinion, like an adviser would, and the PC chooses to ignore or accept his advice. The biggest thing is that since the events in Kirkwall we don't know what military role his has been playing, but it is apparent from the bio he has been playing one. This is why I think it is premature to outright say he is unfit to be the military adviser. The seeds were planted toward a strong, well liked leader at the end of Da:2. I see no reason to think that those seeds didn't grow.

 

No likes equals....................

 

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FIST BUMP BRO'S

 

[RGC_Ines]

Why do you think they will turn against the Inquisitor? They are there to help stop the breach, so if that's is what your Inquisitor is doing what's the problem? Is it so hard to believe that these people can put aside their own beliefs for the good of Thedas. It all rests on the Inquisitions shoulders and I'm pretty sure that they aren't petty enough to screw you over because your Inquisitor has a different belief system to theirs. Maybe you need to take into consideration that the beliefs of your Inquisitor aren't as important as making sure that Thedas survives what could ultimately destroy it. You pretty much saying that these three characters are too closed minded to be of any service but you sound just as close minded as them. Also, I'm not pro-Chantry and I'm not pro-circle as it stands in Thedas at this point in time.    

First Im not close minded otherwise i would never use " maybe Im wrong" phrase.

"Why do you think they will turn against the Inquisitor? They are there to help stop the breach, so if that's is what your Inquisitor is doing what's the problem?" oh well, Loghain never turned against Cailan and never let whole army died on the battlefield while fighting a Blight? He never abuse Orlesian Grey Wardens becouse only them could  kill the Arch Demon? And of course Cerberus gave everything to Shepard and never tried to kill her/him while Shepard tried to save all Galaxy from a Reapers ? And if beliefs have nothing with all of this, why there aren't others than Chantry boys\girls between Advisers?

[Inprea]

Wait, how can you be against someone who kills all mages because of prejudice when it sounds like you have the same prejudice against templars? Is there no room for compromise or at least trying to work things out without mass violence of everyone associated with one side?

 

You miss understood. If I have anything to say about it she'll be more then willing to kill anyone who tries to lock her up in something like the circle or worse. As long as they don't try to impede her freedom though she'll be quite friendly and helpful. She wouldn't be killing out of prejudice but defense of her liberties.

[dutch_gamer]

And Im interesting in one thing..who You will lead if Cullen will turn against You? You really think You can ignore someone who commands the Inquisition's military forces? Or someone who is spy Master and a resource of vital info? Or ( if Scribe is pro Chantry) someone who kept  Inquisition's cash? Good luck with that if You will be cut off from soldiers, money and any info about yours enemies. A lot of ppl here don't want to understand anti Chantry players. All you are saying is that we " hate" certain character. It's not true, we just havn't any proof that Cullen, Leliana, Cassandra can put away theirs beliefs and support pro mage PC. Maybe Im wrong, but right now, knowing those three from previous games I don't belive in theirs support. Would be a lot of easier for everyone if Adviser become someone new, or at last not all Advisers become from Pro-Chantry Camp.

Why should the inquisition even follow the inquisitor? You, as the inquisitor, didn't even have a hand in founding the order. If you are betraying your advisors then it is your own problem if they turn against you. There is a good chance some people in the inquisition were hired before you, including Cullen.

 

It is not about understanding anti-chantry players it is about the anti-chantry players understanding that for every action you can expect consequences. If you go against the chantry, it is you who decide to go against what the inquisition was meant for. This doesn't mean it should be impossible but I do think it should mean you should expect a lot of opposition.

 

(I honestly believe Bioware has done a bad job with the conflict between the mages and templars with so many players being firmly pro-mage. The choice should have been far more grey but right now choosing mages is easily the "better" choice.)

[Nimlowyn]

The arguments in this thread turned me from anti-Cullen into a pro-Cullen fan. I think the arguments of the anti-Cullen side are often too weak. It is either about the swooning over Cullen with no evidence whatsoever that he is fanservice or it is about some who are pro-mage/anti-chantry and who take this to the extreme. The inquisition is a organization that, I believe, in the beginning is founded and a part of the chantry and some can't seem to deal with the existence of the chantry. I really doubt the game will allow you to get rid off the chantry it its entirety. In another thread about mage supporters it sounds like people are trying to turn Thedas into present day Earth.

 

And as for being able to choose your advisors yourself, I think people who request this don't truly understand how much this would cost Bioware. If you could pick any of your companions as the new advisor they would need to record everything at least 9 times. It is just not remotely feasible. And at the end of the day you can likely ignore the advisors. And no, I hope there is no way to execute them. I don't see why that is even remotely a normal response. It sounds more like blind hatred to me. Hatred for pixels.

 

And why does anyone need to trust Cullen's advice? It is to you, the player, to decide if you heed his advice or not. Did you always trust someone like Morrigan? I find it rather doubtful Cullen would be able to use your military against you, he is an advisor, nothing more and you, the inquisitor, are the leader. The only one who could, in theory, turn the inquisition against you is Cassandra, the likely founder of the order.

 

 

Allan has already stepped in to state that this game is not about squashing the Chantry.  There are bigger threats here, like demons falling from the sky.  The interview reveals that Cullen understands the Order has not lived up to its ideal.  His concern now is moving forward to fight for something he knows he can believe in, such as the impending threat for which the Inquisition is created to fight.

 

Already Cullen shows less bias and more clarity of the situation than many players.  As a character he is less clouded by the events of the past two games than some of us are.  He's not picking sides.  He has learned that it's not that simple, which is ironically something that many here have yet to understand.  Now he's fighting for something we can all get behind.  It has been strongly suggested that Cullen is fairly neutral on the mage-templar-chantry issue at this point and is here to support the Inquisition in its purpose.  I'd argue that his willingness to set aside what he once strongly believed in, admit his wrongs, and work for betterment is an example of growth that even some players aren't capable of.

These are so perfect and I ran out of likes again, so here:

 

 

Just brilliant my friends.

[RGC_Ines]

Why should the inquisition even follow the inquisitor? You, as the inquisitor, didn't even have a hand in founding the order. If you are betraying your advisors then it is your own problem if they turn against you. There is a good chance some people in the inquisition were hired before you, including Cullen.

 

It is not about understanding anti-chantry players it is about the anti-chantry players understanding that for every action you can expect consequences. If you go against the chantry, it is you who decide to go against what the inquisition was meant for. This doesn't mean it should be impossible but I do think it should mean you should expect a lot of opposition.

 

(I honestly believe Bioware has done a bad job with the conflict between the mages and templars with so many players being firmly pro-mage. The choice should have been far more grey but right now choosing mages is easily the "better" choice.)

Look, I don't mind consequences...I just don't want to be " worse" player and have less game content, or even don't be able to play game becouse of my opinions. Now it's look like the game is created for Pro Chantry only players, becouse all of the power in a game is concentrate in pro Chantry persons hands, and I have no idea what if I don't support Chantry. So if it's true, it's look like game isn't for me and many others players, despite Devs words that we will not be forced to belive in a maker and support a Chantry. How I would be able to finish game without military support, Inquisition intelligence and a gold? I want to know before game release if I will be forced to support Chantry if I want to play DA:I or not. Becouse right now it's looks like that. For example If Advisors group would be more balanced ( one pro Chantry, one neutral, one anti-Chantry), and I would take actions against i.e Cullen as MA, in consequences I would lost an army, but still with i.e Inquisition gold ( for let's say neutral Scribe girl) I can hire mercenaries and finish a game (of course it could be harder but still possible).? What would You or others pro Chantry players feel if the Advisors would be i.e Morrigan, Dalish Keeper and rebel Mage? Would You still be calm and have faith that Advisors will be able to put away theirs beliefs and let You support Chantry and Templars? Of course I can be wrong, and Advisors would support my PC no matter what, becouse of " Greater good", but I have my doubts and I would prefer that Devs lighten up me a little before October.

[Vilegrim]

Inquisition is not about crushing the chantry.  As stated prior, it may be best for you to step back and wait to see if the game is for you if at this point you're becoming reasonably convinced that we're forcing you to do things you don't want to do.

 

I understand, you don't like the chantry and you want to destroy it.  That's not the focus of the game though. Sorry.

 

 

Resolving the mage/templar conflict and crushing the chantry are the same thing    Saving the world and crushing the chantry are also the same thing (or at least most of my play throughs will reflect that, we have been allowed to utterly crush the mages in DA2, so pay back is called for)

[Mr.House]

And Im interesting in one thing..who You will lead if Cullen will turn against You? You really think You can ignore someone who commands the Inquisition's military forces? Or someone who is spy Master and a resource of vital info? Or ( if Scribe is pro Chantry) someone who kept  Inquisition's cash? Good luck with that if You will be cut off from soldiers, money and any info about yours enemies. A lot of ppl here don't want to understand anti Chantry players. All you are saying is that we " hate" certain character. It's not true, we just havn't any proof that Cullen, Leliana, Cassandra can put away theirs beliefs and support pro mage PC. Maybe Im wrong, but right now, knowing those three from previous games I don't belive in theirs support. Would be a lot of easier for everyone if Adviser become someone new, or at last not all Advisers become from Pro-Chantry Camp.

The thing is this. the Inquisition was formed by chantry members, the top members WILL have a connection to the chantry, no matter what. Companions don't because alot of them will be looking for us, but the advisers have to be picked very early and Cassandra picking people she respects and trust makes perfect sense. People will have to accept that, everyone will not get along with their advisers. This is still not stopping you from doing your own stuff but if you really expect to cause further chaos and your members to always support it... Ya not happening.

[TK514]

Resolving the mage/templar conflict and crushing the chantry are the same thing    Saving the world and crushing the chantry are also the same thing (or at least most of my play throughs will reflect that, we have been allowed to utterly crush the mages in DA2, so pay back is called for)

 

Since you and the developers seem to be of completely opposite views, perhaps it's time you give some thought as to whether you actually want to support a game that you know is not going to give you what you are looking for.

[Vilegrim]

Allan has already stepped in to state that this game is not about squashing the Chantry.  There are bigger threats here, like demons falling from the sky.  The interview reveals that Cullen understands the Order has not lived up to its ideal.  His concern now is moving forward to fight for something he knows he can believe in, such as the impending threat for which the Inquisition is created to fight.

 

Already Cullen shows less bias and more clarity of the situation than many players.  As a character he is less clouded by the events of the past two games than some of us are.  He's not picking sides.  He has learned that it's not that simple, which is ironically something that many here have yet to understand.  Now he's fighting for something we can all get behind.  It has been strongly suggested that Cullen is fairly neutral on the mage-templar-chantry issue at this point and is here to support the Inquisition in its purpose.  I'd argue that his willingness to set aside what he once strongly believed in, admit his wrongs, and work for betterment is an example of growth that even some players aren't capable of.

 

 

I just see the chantry as the largest mortal evil in Thedas, followed by the Qun.   And now it is weak, this is the only chance we will get to save untold millions in future generations from oppression and brain washing by a paranoid and hate filled organisation, that outlaws any other faith, so yea, having a world worth saving does involve breaking the chantry.

[In Exile]

I just see the chantry as the largest mortal evil in Thedas, followed by the Qun.   And now it is weak, this is the only chance we will get to save untold millions in future generations from oppression and brain washing by a paranoid and hate filled organisation, that outlaws any other faith, so yea, having a world worth saving does involve breaking the chantry.

 

You need to let this go. Seriously. 

[Vilegrim]

Why are you so adamant in believing that every decision that these three people make is going to be clouded by their faith? I'm pretty sure that their main concern is making sure that Thedas doesn't crumble to dust and as long as that is your Inquisitors main concern I don't see how you would have any huge problems with them. They are there to advise and support you but you are the leader of the Inquisition, you are the one that makes the choices and if things don't go how you want them to it will most likely be because of a wrong decision you made, not because Leliana, Cullen and Cassandra are plotting against you in the background. 

 

 

Except it is a valid stance to not believe they are loyal...you are forced to keep them anyway, hell it is perfectly logical to not trust Morrigan, or Ironbull...but you are stuck with them to.

 

What leadership do you actually exercise if you cannot tell people that their services are not wanted?

 

You can't use the example of Shepard here, s/he was never in overall command, always someone out ranked /him/her and gave you mandatory crew, if the inquisitor is in this position the advertising shouldn't be claiming that the inquisition is yours.

[Zatche]

And Im interesting in one thing..who You will lead if Cullen will turn against You? You really think You can ignore someone who commands the Inquisition's military forces? Or someone who is spy Master and a resource of vital info? Or ( if Scribe is pro Chantry) someone who kept  Inquisition's cash? Good luck with that if You will be cut off from soldiers, money and any info about yours enemies. A lot of ppl here don't want to understand anti Chantry players. All you are saying is that we " hate" certain character. It's not true, we just havn't any proof that Cullen, Leliana, Cassandra can put away theirs beliefs and support pro mage PC. Maybe Im wrong, but right now, knowing those three from previous games I don't belive in theirs support. Would be a lot of easier for everyone if Adviser become someone new, or at last not all Advisers become from Pro-Chantry Camp.

 

1. It's pretty much confirmed that we'll able to take a side between the Templars and the Mages. I think we can deduct that even if they disagree with who you choose, Cullen, Leliana, and Cassandra will stick with you, especially Cullen and Leliana, given that they don't have a replacement.

2. Cullen, Leliana, and Cassandra aren't as fanatically anti mage as you think. Based on Dawn of the Seeker and what we've read from Cullen interview and website description, Cass and Cullen seem to have grown out of that. Leliana didn't turn on you if you stopped the Right of Annulment in DAO. And you probably might like to read Asunder (or at least a summary) to see her involvement there.

[RGC_Ines]

The thing is this. the Inquisition was formed by chantry members, the top members WILL have a connection to the chantry, no matter what. Companions don't because alot of them will be looking for us, but the advisers have to be picked very early and Cassandra picking people she respects and trust makes perfect sense. People will have to accept that, everyone will not get along with their advisers. This is still not stopping you from doing your own stuff but if you really expect to cause further chaos and your members to always support it... Ya not happening.I don't want to

 

The thing is this. the Inquisition was formed by chantry members, the top members WILL have a connection to the chantry, no matter what. Companions don't because alot of them will be looking for us, but the advisers have to be picked very early and Cassandra picking people she respects and trust makes perfect sense. People will have to accept that, everyone will not get along with their advisers. This is still not stopping you from doing your own stuff but if you really expect to cause further chaos and your members to always support it... Ya not happening.

Why supporting mages have to lead to chaos? Not all mages are blood thirsty murderers. There are ppl who just want to live as a free people, want to help others with theirs skills ( i.e healing magic), not to be abused, raped or mentaly destroyed, only becouse they were born with some extra skills. I just want to be sure, that if in game I will have a chance to help this kind of ppl, and if sucess of this mission will require i.e Inquisition military help, I will not be betrayed in a middle of fight only becouse my MA is mage hater., or not to be affraid that I will not get supply for mages becouse my economy depend on a Chantry girl. That's all. Of course I can live with consequences i.e not be able to be friend with Cullen/Leliana/Casandra/Scribe, not be able to get loyality quest, not be able to know them on personal level etc but I don't want the situation when choices are taken away from me, or when Im forced to support Chantry point of view about mages ( or those who don't belive in Andrasta/Maker), becouse all Advisers are pro-Chantry. I would be more calm and more sure, that I will be able to play my game the way i likes, if Advisors were more balanced. It have nothing with Cullen-haters . I don't hate Cullen, I just don't accept his point of view about mages, and I know that we will not have a good relations in DA:I. About Inquisition no, it's not Cassandra buisness only Devs. That was BioWare decision, that it will be pro Chantry organisation not neutral ( like Grey Wardens), so I need Devs words here that it will not make imposible to play the game to the end as anti Chantry PC ( anti Chantry for me don't mean kill them all asap or something)

[Mr.House]

Because freedom also goes to the mages who are a danger and will pull acts like the Baroness, Connor ect. That is why it's chaos. You and alot of people seem to be under the illusion that full freedom only applies to the "innocent" mages.

[Vilegrim]

Because freedom also goes to the mages who are a danger and will pull acts like the Baroness, Connor ect. That is why it's chaos. You and alot of people seem to be under the illusion that full freedom only applies to the "innocent" mages.

 

no, the price, and responsibilities of freedom apply to all, the chantry however cannot abide freedom, either of mages or of faith (just look at how the avvars and dalish are treated) neither can the qun, THAT is what is wrong with it at heart.