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[themikefest]

 

 

 He obtained the position from the potential K Commander Meredith saw a good while before she got the red lyrium and went crazy 

Sure. But what made him better than say Thrask for the job or any other Templar before he showed up in Kirkwall?

[Gtdef]

Probably the fact that he existed in the previous game and some people wanted to romance him ;p Who wants to romance Thrask? ^^

[NoForgiveness]

 

In DA2, he's Knight - Captain. I would be curious as to  how he obtained that position in such a short time from when we saw him in DAO.

 

By being unnecessarily ruthless towards mages and kissing Meredith's ass a lot.
 

[Nimlowyn]

Sure. But what made him better than say Thrask for the job or any other Templar before he showed up in Kirkwall?

According to the Codex, Meredith found someone of like mind in Cullen, who very much approved of her hardline approach. If memory serves me, he was raised to the rank of Knight Captain in about 6 months after arriving in Kirkwall.

 

Finding someone in power who shares your philosophy, intensity and drive to a T can do remarkable things for your career. 

 

As for Thrask, remember, he was "too soft on the robes". 

[Aimi]

Sure. But what made him better than say Thrask for the job or any other Templar before he showed up in Kirkwall?

This is the equivalent of medieval Europe. It's not like the Divine has a Kriegsakademie somewhere in her sphincter where all the higher Templar leaders can get training in the command and control of thousands of soldiers once they make Knight-Captain. There's no Carlisle or Sandhurst to hand out diplomas in logistics and leadership.

There are no military credentials at all apart from experience, resources, and trust. Cullen handled the Kirkwall disaster, he's got plenty of friends with swords willing to follow him, and he is presumably loyal to Cassandra, the Inquisitor, and the general program of "keep the world from falling to pieces".

[themikefest]

So he's basically a backside kisser. That doesn't work for me and that would have me choose someone else to be my military advisor.

[wolfsite]

Inquisitor: "Cullen I have a problem that I could really use your expertise with."

 

Cullen: "Of Course Inquisitor what do you need?"

 

Inquisitor" What do you think of this hat?"

 

Cullen: "Well at first I thought it would be a bit flashy but you make it work"

 

Inquisitor: "Thank you Cullen you can return to your duties Carry on"

[Nimlowyn]

So he's basically a backside kisser. That doesn't work for me and that would have me choose someone else to be my military advisor.

Well, you could interpret it that way I suppose (which I don't, because he actually sincerely believed in Meredith), but remember, he ultimately opposes her at the end. 

[themikefest]

Well, you could interpret it that way I suppose (which I don't, because he actually sincerely believed in Meredith), but remember, he ultimately opposes her at the end. 

He can oppose her all he wants, but being an a** kisser doesn't qualify you to be a military advisor.

[Doctoglethorpe]

It should be obvious by now that the Inquisition is very much a Chantry organization.  Now, we will probably be able to be very independent, if not outright work against the Chantry if we see fit to, but I think they definitely are the ones who create it to begin with.  I mean look, the initial top members are a Templar, a Seeker, a Circle Enchanter, and the left hand of the Divine (member of the priesthood).  Leaders of the four corners of the Chantry hierarchy.  Then you got the Organization's logo, a combination of the Seekers' and Templar's.  The Inquisition in the past was a Chantry organization as well.  Yeah, its pretty clear.  The Inquisition is made by the Chantry to solve the problem of the fade tears.  But if Bioware's comments are anything to go by, it will be a fairly autonomous organization that will not be beholden to those that created it, or at least it may start off beholden to it but as we take over we can hopefully change that.  

[Gtdef]

Cullen handled the Kirkwall disaster

 

Cullen didn't handle anything. All he did is see the truth after the fact and "demote" Meredith, like it mattered. Also a true cullen should go nuts when he learned that templars were getting possessed. But no, for some reason a completely broken and irrational little man suddenly gets a change of attitude. 

 

He is a weak character that only a select few are happy that he is back. I don't understand why Bioware has to make him more than he is. I'd be perfectly happy with a "we don't have anyone else so we picked Cullen, do whatever you like with him". But no, make him important, cause they like their characters important.

[Nimlowyn]

He can oppose her all he wants, but being an a** kisser doesn't qualify you to be a military advisor.

No, but taking the mantle as Knight Commander to restore order to a chaotic city state just devastated by a terrorist attack and a mini-civil war might.

 

I guess we'll find out come October. 

[Aimi]

So he's basically a backside kisser. That doesn't work for me and that would have me choose someone else to be my military advisor.

Yes, and Thedas is of course overflowing with competent military leaders with troops loyal to the Inquisition.

No. First of all, Cullen isn't an asskisser. Although he was more in line with Meredith's views than many other templars, he was willing to compromise if given a good reason, and he opposed her - and fought her - at the end of the game.

Secondly, the Inquisition doesn't have a lot of options for military support. Who else has a reason to back the Inquisitor out of the starting gate, other than Cullen? If they're loyal and competent, they're in...or else the Inquisition has a very, very short lifespan.

[Reznore57]

He can oppose her all he wants, but being an a** kisser doesn't qualify you to be a military advisor.

 

I think it's reassuring from The Inquisitor point of view.

I don't want to fight my own army.

[Aimi]

Cullen didn't handle anything. All he did is see the truth after the fact and "demote" Meredith, like it mattered. Also a true cullen should go nuts when he learned that templars were getting possessed. But no, for some reason a completely broken and irrational little man suddenly gets a change of attitude.

Yeah, I don't really care about your personal opinions of the events and characters of DA2, almost none of which had anything to do with a large-scale military operation.

Cullen is explicitly stated by the website blurb to have restored order in the city after the Anders/Meredith/Orsino catastrof*ck. That is exactly the sort of military experience the Inquisition would find to be useful.

[themikefest]

Yes, and Thedas is of course overflowing with competent military leaders with troops loyal to the Inquisition.

No. First of all, Cullen isn't an asskisser. Although he was more in line with Meredith's views than many other templars, he was willing to compromise if given a good reason, and he opposed her - and fought her - at the end of the game.

Secondly, the Inquisition doesn't have a lot of options for military support. Who else has a reason to back the Inquisitor out of the starting gate, other than Cullen? If they're loyal and competent, they're in...or else the Inquisition has a very, very short lifespan.

 

Yes, and Thedas is of course overflowing with competent military leaders with troops loyal to the Inquisition.

No. First of all, Cullen isn't an asskisser. Although he was more in line with Meredith's views than many other templars, he was willing to compromise if given a good reason, and he opposed her - and fought her - at the end of the game.

Secondly, the Inquisition doesn't have a lot of options for military support. Who else has a reason to back the Inquisitor out of the starting gate, other than Cullen? If they're loyal and competent, they're in...or else the Inquisition has a very, very short lifespan.

Read my earlier post. I would choose Loghain over anybody, but he wouldn't work since he could be dead in DAO.

 

And since I don't know of anyone else, he will have to do. 

[TheTurtle]

I hate the whole "who else could have done it" argument. Bioware didn't need to pick a military advisor from the existing pool of characters they could have made an original one. Like I said I personally don't care about Cullen at all so I'm not defending excluding him I just think there are better arguments to make then that one.

[themikefest]

Yeah, I don't really care about your personal opinions of the events and characters of DA2, almost none of which had anything to do with a large-scale military operation.

Cullen is explicitly stated by the website blurb to have restored order in the city after the Anders/Meredith/Orsino catastrof*ck. That is exactly the sort of military experience the Inquisition would find to be useful.

How does helping restore/rebuild a city give you military experience?

[DooomCookie]

While I've changed my mind about him as a character, I think this is still something that doesn't make much sense.  A templar would know how to counter blood mage and templar threats, but would hardly be an expert on military conflict, something the Inquisition will likely be involved in.

[addiction21]

because of his "popularity" Bioware decided to make him a main character to make Cullenites happy.. other than his apparent leadership skills, I don't really see him as being qualified as a military adviser.. sure he was a knight-captain/knight-commander  but does that really qualify him for the job?  

 

 

 

No that he made it thru a circle annulment where he was totured and then everything that happened in Kirkwall and he still did not succumb to "all mages are evil so they should all die" makes him qualified.

 

That even thru all the hardships (especially the torture mages put him thru) he does not go kill happy shows there is a rational and logical mind. Not to mention the decade or more of experience he has with mages makes him one of the best military advisors available. Unless your goal is to wipe all living mages from Thedas then he would no go along with that.

 

And at the end of the day a huge fade rift has opened so yes you want a level headed and fair Templar on your staff.
 

[Hizoku]

Yes, and Thedas is of course overflowing with competent military leaders with troops loyal to the Inquisition.

Secondly, the Inquisition doesn't have a lot of options for military support. Who else has a reason to back the Inquisitor out of the starting gate, other than Cullen? If they're loyal and competent, they're in...or else the Inquisition has a very, very short lifespan.

are there no other Military leaders in Ferelden or Orlais that are loyal to the Chantry and the Maker? 

...I didn't know Thedas was going through a population crisis.

[Allan Schumacher]

Read my earlier post. I would choose Loghain over anybody, but he wouldn't work since he could be dead in DAO.

 

And since I don't know of anyone else, he will have to do. 

 

Just note that you'd be actively choosing someone that has actually betrayed his own king because he felt it was a better course of action.

 

Though it'd be interesting if Loghain was your advisor and you had to make a decision that was good for the Inquisition that came at the expense of Fereldin.

[DooomCookie]

No, but taking the mantle as Knight Commander to restore order to a chaotic city state just devastated by a terrorist attack and a mini-civil war might.

 

I guess we'll find out come October. 

 

Hey!  I'M going to be the Inquisitor here, not him.  Any order-restoring is going to be done by ME.  No insubordination in the ranks...

[DarkKnightHolmes]

His a popular character who still has potential to be developed further.

 

What more reason does Bioware need to bring him back?

[Allan Schumacher]

because of his "popularity" Bioware decided to make him a main character to make Cullenites happy.. other than his apparent leadership skills, I don't really see him as being qualified as a military adviser.. sure he was a knight-captain/knight-commander  but does that really qualify him for the job?  

 

Yeah, it'd be great if we could actually act like the leader of the Inquisition and choose who we want to as advisers.. i'd lose it if we could choose Loghain if he survived DA:O.. he in my opinion would make the best possible Military Adviser since he actually has some experience with the job.

 

I know people who have already made up their minds on this so my words won't mean much, but Cullen wasn't made the military advisor (or added into the game) simply because he had a group of fans that really liked him.

 

(Note that "having a group of fans that really liked him/her" is something that can be ascribed to pretty much any character)