there's a similar glitch in ME2 with Wilson.
But because of how the checks work in ME2 there's really no point in glitching yourself to full bars. Full bars mean nothing in ME2.
That glitch isn't as efficient, and that one only affects bars. It takes somewhere like an hour to max one bar, whereas the Qui'in glitch maxes the bar in under 5 minutes.
Whereas the Qui'in glitch puts you lets you basically pass any check for both paragon and renegade when you import.
That glitch isn't as efficient, and that one only affects bars. It takes somewhere like an hour to max one bar, whereas the Qui'in glitch maxes the bar in under 5 minutes.
Whereas the Qui'in glitch puts you lets you basically pass any check for both paragon and renegade when you import.
Which isn't true in the slightest, unless you import a character with 0 renegade points from ME1 or make a character from scratch. If you import max values from ME1 (for which your bar only needs to be filled for like 50%) you can deviate from the Paragon/Renegade path quite a lot.
This was the final morality check in the game, I did Legion and Tali's LMs last. No adding points via Gibbed or other means of cheating.
ME2 morality's system works like this:
The game tracks how many points you have and could've gotten and bases the check on that. Let's do an improvised example on a character that added no bonus morality points from import:
Say the 'check value' is 0.75.
You have 100 paragon points out of a possible 200 at this point. Your morality check value is then 100/200=0.5.
You fail the check.
Now the same check with a character that was imported from ME1 with maximum possible points added for import (190 points). Everything else is the same:
Check value to pass: 0.75
Your check value: (100+190)/200= 1.45.
You pass gloriously, while having 'deviated' from the Paragon path quite a lot (100 points to be exact).
I like this system, it accounts for Shepard's past. A mixed morality import Shepard will have options in ME2. A pure morality Shepard can do the opposite morality in ME2 just fine, but he/she has to stick to the path. He/She will keep options for his/her ME1 morality for a long time, but will eventually lose these options when sticking to the opposite morality.
p.s.
For clarity: all check values you have to pass have a value between 0 and 1. Importing max points from ME1 on both moralities puts both checks far above a value of 1 for a long time.
That's what I said: a full bar gives you nothing in ME2, because the check is based on a ratio of points you've gotten divided by points you could've gotten. Using Wilson's glitch you up both values, ultimately giving you nothing. Both moralities are affected here, because you have a renegade option and a paragon one. When you choose one you also increase the points you could've gotten value for the other.
and that's how it should be.
Has it actually been verified that the glitch updates both counters?
There might be a set total of morality points you can get from each area in the game and the game calculates from that (which would allow cheating by glitches), but I think it's far easier to program it with both sides of the ratio being calculated every time an option for morality points occurs. This has the added bonus of preventing cheating by using glitches (though of course during development you try to realize making your game glitch free 
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Because it 'forces' the player to have a Shepard from ME1 to have the most options.
I actually found ME2 had the perfect balance of auto dialogue and play input. There were moments when it used and quite often, mind you - but I still always felt like it was my Shepard... but I've heard arguments for ME3 as well - maybe I just vibed with ME2 and not having my Shepard turn into a fanboy of Liara and lines like "We fight or we die" during ME3 helps.
Also, I'll take "illusion" of choice over ME3 every single time.
I have no problem with autodialogue so long as it's more generic statements, rather than making any kind of declaration or other that you would rather not say, like:
"Okay" or "So I heard" as opposed to "The Citadel? The fight's here!"
Indeed - as long as it's not part of long conversations and does not offer any oppinions or make statements, it is ok (like say the cutscene shows a fight and the character directs his companions to take cover or open fire etc. that is quite ok, but longer speeches and oppinionated comments are IMO not ok)
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ps: that "The Citadel? The fight's here!" statement makes Shep sound like a small minded idiot (I play a character who sees the big picture, so that a total contradiction of my character!)
Know what's funny? Auto-dialogue can actually be found in the very first tech demo for ME1 from E3 2006.
http://youtu.be/q6yCw29JnQk?t=2m10s
Know what's funny? Auto-dialogue can actually be found in the very first tech demo for ME1 from E3 2006.
What is this visor on the wrong side for Garrus? Who is this turian imposter??
Some of the effects in that demo look better than what we got in the game.
Ditto. A mixed import should be able to get some of both but not the hardest of either. Whilst there's quite a lot to be said for the idea that the best Shepard should be a properly balanced Shepard (which doesn't necessarily 50 / 50) this isn't the way to achieve it. Not sure what is though. Perhaps sometimes the best outcome (or more than one) for a given situation should depend on whether you hit the best sweetspot, i.e. for this choice you need to be as close to possible to a 75% Paragon / Renegade ratio, for that one 20%.This strikes me as a bad thing, not a good thing.
I really hope they hack that auto dialogue stuff down to reasonable level. It's boring. It goes on entirely too long. I don't find it engaging. When I do a replay I just set the controller down and go and take a leak, or get a snack or both. I come back and it's still going. Yawn!
But ME1 was lame in that whole diff options, but not really BS. Come on. What I would like to see is a progression of their implementation of the dialogue gameplay feature.
I would like to see unique dialogue options that not only help you to shape/define your character, but also impacts your interactions and relations w/npc's. Maybe even--depending on your approach--can help/hinder you in seeking info from npc's or getting aid from them.
So, I would like more opportunities to interact via the dialogue feature, and have those interactive choices mean something. It's a great feature, and I would like to see a more robust version.
(the whole paragon/renegade thing, tho...personally I wish they'd scrap it. I mean, like in ME2, I would like if I could talk down Miranda/Jack due to the individual approach I took in that particular situation. Not because I could/could not access certain dialogue if I didn't play heavy one way or the other.)
You do realize that ME1 was filled with "auto-dialogue," you just had to press a button to hear it. Try picking every different option on what Shepard saw when he/she was zapped by the Beacon. Try any number of dialogue "choices" that have Shepard saying the exact same thing.
Let's face it, your real problem is with the script, not the mechanics of how it is delivered.
I've lost count how many times I've pointed that out. I've concluded most people never even played ME1.
I've lost count how many times I've pointed that out. I've concluded most people never even played ME1.
I can understand the misconception though. If you only played ME1 once or even twice, it's easy to be fooled into thinking that it has so many options.
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