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[byeshoe]

I'll be doing both of course. one of my inquisitor's will be the right way, while the other the wrong way x] but i doubt we'll have the choice to dismantle the chantry. not in this dragonage game it seems. probably in the one with morrigan's son all grown up

[Uccio]

How do you know that they are devout followers of the Chantry? All we know is that they are devout Andrastians, that doesn't mean they like the Chantry. Leliana actually makes it clear in Origins that she doesn't have a high opinion of the Chantry and it's priesthood. Besides, Leliana and Cassandra are the left and right hand of Divine Justinia V, who, by all accounts, was very interested in reforming the Chantry herself. As such, it could be assumed that they are both in favour of a Chantry reform, and thus probably rather neutral on the whole Inquisition/Chantry relationship.

Highly unlikely that both devout chantry followers would stand idly by when iq tries to undermine chantry. The stage is set waay too much on the chantry side I'm afraid.

[The Elder King]

Highly unlikely that both devout chantry followers would stand by when iq tries to undermine chantry. The stage is set waay too much on the chantry side I'm afraid.

Of course. Cassandra separates the Inquisition from the Chantry because she has a double personality .

[robertthebard]

Both, I'd imagine. That's kind of the point of choices, you make this choice this time, that choice next time, and if available, something completely different after that.

I'm not a big fan of the Chantry, but they aren't on my Most Wanted list either.

[stunkill37]

Reform in favor of mage equality instead of cruel oppresion.  I wouldnt dismantle it since my inquisitor is faithfull to the maker and wouldnt want to detract from his glory by pulling people away from him by destroying they're right to assemble and worship him.

[Ryzaki]

Meh cut the fat, and keep it roughly the same. Some of the templars need to be brought to heel though. So do some of the mages. Get in line or step aside but don't get in my way as my Shep would say.

[stunkill37]

Mystery and faith are not values that will empower and drive a sentient species. It is a value that will instead stunt the said species. 

 

Mystery and faith are primitive and archaic values. Mystery and faith are things that are valued by people who wish to wonder, not to understand. Mystery and faith are things that are valued by people who wish to deify, not to learn. Mystery and faith are things that are valued by people who wish to live lives of statism as opposed to evolving and improving. 

 

To quote House :- Faith...that is another word for ignorance isn't it ? Faith isn't based on logic and experience.

 

Before you tell me that Dragon Age has magic, allow me to quote Morrigan :- Magic is real. I can touch it and command it and I need no faith for it to fill me up inside.

 

So the notion that we need the Chantry and the Maker or that they are necessary is a foolish notion. 

 

My Inquisitors would want to either dismantle the Chantry or severly reduce the power of the Chantry or make it so that the Chantry is akin to Ancient Greek Pantheons, where no one worships them anymore but instead use them for entertainment and theatrical purposes. 

Oh, and I have faith in God in the real world to which has touched me, I havent touched it.  It has filled me up with happiness and peace and a tranquility I have never known otherwise, and have had many things happen to me that logic cant explain,  but I guess people like me are just fools with our feelings and experiences meaningless and destructive to the human races ability to evolve and improve ourselves.  Doesnt understanding begin with wonder?  Life is about evolving and improving ones self each and every day and my faith only helps me to do that better, it doesnt deify anyone or anything, or cause problems of anykind to anyone.  You are entitled to your opinion, but faith is not what you have so logically defined it as being.  And thank you for strengthening my faith with your comment, God bless you.

[CELL55]

Even if Bioware was allowing for such radically different world-states in regards to the Chantry's continued existence, I think that some of you forget that some of your followers are Andrastians. As well as some of your advisors. And likely the vast majority of your army. Exactly with what force do you think you can dismantle a massive and pervasive ideological institution that spans most of the continent and has had a widespread influence on dozens of cultures? With your own hands? Please.

At best you are able to leverage your singular ability to close Fade rifts into shutting the Chantry's doors, only for them to be immediately reopened after the crisis has passed and you have lost your bargaining chip. Somehow I doubt that you will be able to rely on the continued subservience of a huge mass of people that you have just finished screwing over by disbanding their religious institution, attacking their faith, impeding their right to assemble, turning vast sums of priestesses, monks, laity, and not to mention secular staff that do things like bookkeeping and cleaning into unemployed beggers that become a further drain on a society's resources that are already damaged by the ongoing crisis. And seeing as the chief provider of poor relief was just disbanded, those people might well starve.

Suppose then that you solve all these problems related to massive societal upheaval, when do you plan on finding time to solve the real crisis with the Fade, Mages, and Templars?

This inane rant has gone on long enough so I will just finish by saying that destroying the Chantry is an impossible pipe-dream, learn to tolerate people of different ideological beliefs.

[Cypher0020]

Definitely reform, if possible....destory on my other toons once I've gotten tired of good playthroughs

 

I hope we can include other religions... like... why can't a dwarfquisitor talk about the stone/ancestors faith, or a dalish bring people to believing the old elven gods?

[Wolfen09]

well, to just destroy it cold turkey would have extreme repercussions....  if its "immediately destroy it" then no i wont....  Reforming is the best option in my opinion, but if we have to destroy the chantry some way, i would like to have it done over a period of years, by slowly reforming it bit by bit to where they eventually have no more power and just fade out of existence.

[Roamingmachine]

I consider all forms of -organized- religion to be inherently evil regardless of their stated aims, buuuut....Leaving a vacuum like that would have dire consequenses. Managable if you have an extremely loyal and sizable army and are prepared to rule with an iron fist for decades.Not very practical and the cost would be high.

[Innsmouth Dweller]

neither. if they cannot draw conclusions and act on themselves (like talking, compromising and other trivial/silly things), i'm not touching it with 6 ft pole, they can try to kill all the mages and qunari in Thedas - good luck with that. same goes with Orlaisian civil war, elves and pretty much most of the ideological conflicts existing in DA. do. not. care. and i hope my PC will be able to not care as well. i just want to deal with the demons.

[PillarBiter]

The chantry will burn.

 

 

Everyone bow to your new god! 

 

INQUISITOR!

[Vilegrim]

The chantry will burn.

 

 

Everyone bow to your new god! 

 

INQUISITOR!

 

The chantry will burn.

 

 

Everyone bow to your new god! 

 

INQUISITOR!

 

 

unfortunately it has been made clear we can't do anything like that, we are stuck with a pro-chantry support staff, and the 'oppose the chantry' line is sounding more and more hollow.

[Killdren88]

unfortunately it has been made clear we can't do anything like that, we are stuck with a pro-chantry support staff, and the 'oppose the chantry' line is sounding more and more hollow.

 

I doubt they will make us kiss the Chantry's butt during the game. I'm certain will be at least allowed to appose anything the Chantry suggestion in regards what direction we take.

[umadcommander]

as much as watching it crumble would bring me great cheer this implies that we'll even get the choice to make such a grand decision, which we wont

[ebby0110]

I might dismantle it on the first playthrough. I wanna see what happens when you remove it and build something else there.

[Finnn62]

Reformation for equality and compassion for all and whatnot

[Celtic Latino]

I can definitely see reform could serve as a benefit to the Chantry, namely regarding social equality (elves not being treated as second class citizens, dwarves and qunari accepted as creations of the Maker) and less a militaristic force but more of a 'faith-force'. Would also like to see the Chantry engage more in scientific study and practice rather than having black and white views on magic, Andraste and the like, even if there are different schools of thought that respect one another. 

 

If anything needs to be dismantled its the Qun...

[Lucidae]

Probably reform. It needs a lot of fixes and has screwed up a ton, but I can't annihilate it. The peasants need something to believe in. I would just try to completely change the system from scratch and then just give it the same name. Maybe with "Under New Management" above the doors into the chantry buildings.

[Ryzaki]

I doubt they will make us kiss the Chantry's butt during the game. I'm certain will be at least allowed to appose anything the Chantry suggestion in regards what direction we take.

 

I don't know. I still remember ME3 and they're "you wouldn't have to be an alliance poster boy." *snicker* line.