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Here's the latest article about there not being any news:
Bioware isn’t denying the possibility of co-op in ‘Dragon Age: Inquisition’
http://www.examiner....age-inquisition
and a Dragon Age tweet encouraging you to 'keep an eye on our Facebook and Twitter feeds for updates' .. about, er, unannounced co op features?
Got damnit, looks like Multiplayer is a reality then.No wonder the devs have not said and outright no then
Got damnit, looks like Multiplayer is a reality then.No wonder the devs have not said and outright no then
Frostbite 3 is an engine built from the ground up as a multiplayer engine. If you weren't expecting some manner of multiplayer (Especially after ME3) you really were out of touch with reality. So to that effect I would be more surprised if it didn't exist, neither in a positive or negative way though.
Personally I'm not so closed minded as to not see the immense potential with both the technology and setting to lend itself to a great experience. So long as they don't pull any ME3 War assets crap. The only involvement with SP I want would tolerate with MP is thematic (IE: You play a grunt in the Inquisition as your multiplayer character)
I personally don't understand the resistance to it honestly. (Aside from cited case of War asset fiasco)
Frostbite 3 is an engine built from the ground up as a multiplayer engine. If you weren't expecting some manner of multiplayer (Especially after ME3) you really were out of touch with reality. So to that effect I would be more surprised if it didn't exist, neither in a positive or negative way though.
Personally I'm not so closed minded as to not see the immense potential with both the technology and setting to lend itself to a great experience. So long as they don't pull any ME3 War assets crap. The only involvement with SP I
wantwould tolerate with MP is thematic (IE: You play a grunt in the Inquisition as your multiplayer character)
I personally don't understand the resistance to it honestly. (Aside from cited case of War asset fiasco)
Hmm saying phrases like "close minded" and, "out of touch with reality" is an obvious bait attempt for an arguement,I pass though.
However I will say this as long as multiplayer is completely separate from single then Its what ever. Multiplayer is there to get that Cod audience after all
Hmm saying phrases like "close minded" and, "out of touch with reality" is an obvious bait attempt for an arguement,I pass though.
However I will say this as long as multiplayer is completely separate from single then Its what ever. Multiplayer is there to get that Cod audience after all
Bioware doing multiplayer in their games predates the first Call of Duty by about half a decade.
I think a Poll is in order to see where most people stand on the issue So here http://www.poll-make...0051xb9704102-5
Of course it won't get EVERYONE'S opinion, but that is the beauty of Sample sizes.
So lets say they put in Multiplayer/Co-op , any ideas as to how they would go with it(it isnt even confirmed that they will put it in but seeing how Frostbite 3 was made as a multiplayer engine there is quite some chance for it to be in )?
Bioware doing multiplayer in their games predates the first Call of Duty by about half a decade.
Your point? The Cod audience is what the majority of AAA devs/publishers want a piece of in the industry. Multiplayer has changed since baldur's gate came out. Also I don't hate Multiplayer I just don't expect much of it for 2 reasons.
1. Less than 3 months till Launch day, and it still has not been officially announced, I feel as though its going to be shoehorned in because of how Pro Multiplayer EA is.
2. I think Last gen consoles are holding games back, I understand that the install base for last gen is huge, but last gen is nearly a decade old hardware. If DAI was a current gen thing I would be excited for both Single/multiplayer equally, because developers would be able to do a lot more without having to deal with weak ass hardware.
So lets say they put in Multiplayer/Co-op , any ideas as to how they would go with it(it isnt even confirmed that they will put it in but seeing how Frostbite 3 was made as a multiplayer engine there is quite some chance for it to be in )?
Well I think its been confirmed by the post the Sofajockey made, its dubious in my opinion that Bioware has been so hush hush with a lot of DAI's gameplay elements , considering the game is going to drop in less than three months.
Well I think its been confirmed by the post the Sofajockey made, its dubious in my opinion that Bioware has been so hush hush with a lot of DAI's gameplay elements , considering the game is going to drop in less than three months.
True so what I am trying to say is how do you think they will go with it ? Maybe using Strongholds making siege battles?
Your point? The Cod audience is what the majority of AAA devs/publishers want a piece of. Multiplayer is not was it was back then
Fantasy rpgs recently released with multiplayer.
Diablo 3 and Divinity Original Sin. Pretty much the same kind of MP we saw in the past.
I don't think I've ever seen a developer design a MP to appeal to CoD players in a non-shooter genre.
As for my point, the odds of DA:I multiplayer having anything to do with appealing CoD players are small. If Bioware were to do a fantasy rpg with multiplayer, it would most likely bear similarities to their past fantasy rpg multiplayer experiences, barring that, similarity to their only other multiplayer rpg experience, neither of which would have been aimed at CoD players at all.
Suggesting that multiplayer only exists in video games(Total War series, Starcraft series, various MMOs and Mobbas, innumerable minor genres) to appeal to CoD players is ridiculous. Fans of multiplayer experiences predate the existence of CoD and often have nothing to do with CoD.
Fantasy rpgs recently released with multiplayer.
Diablo 3 and Divinity Original Sin. Pretty much the same kind of MP we saw in the past.
I don't think I've ever seen a developer design a MP to appeal to CoD players in a non-shooter genre.
As for my point, the odds of DA:I multiplayer having anything to do with appealing CoD players are small. If Bioware were to do a fantasy rpg with multiplayer, it would most likely bear similarities to their past fantasy rpg multiplayer experiences, barring that, similarity to their only other multiplayer rpg experience, neither of which would have been aimed at CoD players at all.
Suggesting that multiplayer only exists in video games(Total War series, Starcraft series, various MMOs and Mobbas, innumerable minor genres) to appeal to CoD players is ridiculous. Fans of multiplayer experiences predate the existence of CoD and often have nothing to do with CoD.
Starcraft,total war series, all PC games, PC crowd is different from the console crowd. The console market is treated differently from the PC market. You must of been living under a rock if you think Cod MW didn't change the industry as a whole. not that I think Cod is amazing just that after that game dropped the console market was never the same.
True so what I am trying to say is how do you think they will go with it ? Maybe using Strongholds making siege battles?
Honestly I have no idea, I am hoping its going to be like BG not some horde mode clone.I am just going to try it out with low expectations might end up pleasantly surprised however, Single player is still the biggest draw for me
True so what I am trying to say is how do you think they will go with it ? Maybe using Strongholds making siege battles?
I hope so.
You must of been living under a rock if you think Cod MW didn't change the industry as a whole. not that I think Cod is amazing just that after that game dropped the console market was never the same.
Got to aggre with this.
Starcraft,total war series, all PC games, PC crowd is different from the console crowd
What are you getting at? Avid fps players being more likely to use PCs doesn't exactly reinforce the idea that the "console crowd" is a danger to the integrity of the DA series, in addition to ignoring the fact that the DA series was always cross-platform.
It also doesn't make the association of Call of Duty to any fantasy rpg's multiplayer any less absurd.
What are you getting at? Avid fps players being more likely to use PCs doesn't exactly reinforce the idea that the "console crowd" is a danger to the integrity of the DA series, in addition to ignoring the fact that the DA series was always cross-platform.
It also doesn't make the association of Call of Duty to any fantasy rpg's multiplayer any less absurd.
Never said it was a danger, in any of my posts, I just think multiplayer is going to be thrown into the game to appeal to "that crowd" because of the publisher's stance on multiplayer and how it is such an important feature. I don't hate multiplayer, I just doubt it will be some kind of amazing thing like the single player will be.
Well I atlast hope Multiplayer is Optional, I would hate it to be required for certain points in the Single Player game or for different endings(if there are some, altought i believe there will be ) like they did with ME3
Never said it was a danger, in any of my posts, I just think multiplayer is going to be thrown into the game to appeal to "that crowd". I don't hate multiplayer, I just doubt it will be some kind of amazing thing like the single player will be.
What is "that crowd" supposed to be or even represent? Fans of previous Bioware games with multiplayer? Because that's who is likely to be asking for multiplayer.
"CoD players" or the "console crowd" don't show up on the Rome 2 Total War forums to ask for the next Total War game to be an fps. Campaign multiplayer didn't show up in the Total War series because fps players were asking for it, but because long-time fans were asking for it.
There isn't such a thing as a gimmick that will miraculously make a genre appealing to people who predominantly play in another genre. Unless you can give me an actual example of what you think they'll do to appeal to "insert vaguely defined group here", you're just making ambiguous assertions about how multiplayer will be bad in some unknown way because some feature may or may not have been implemented because of a group of people who may or may not have ever been a target player base.
Well I atlast hope Multiplayer is Optional, I would hate it to be required for certain points in the Single Player game or for different endings(if there are some, altought i believe there will be ) like they did with ME3
Nah I think after the whole Mass Effect 3 foolishness, Multiplayer will be separate from Singleplayer
What is "that crowd" supposed to be or even represent? Fans of previous Bioware games with multiplayer? Because that's who is likely to be asking for multiplayer.
"CoD players" or the "console crowd" don't show up on the Rome 2 Total War forums to ask for the next Total War game to be an fps. Campaign multiplayer didn't show up in the Total War series because fps players were asking for it, but because long-time fans were asking for it.
There isn't such a thing as a gimmick that will miraculously make a genre appealing to people who predominantly play in another genre. Unless you can give me an actual example of what you think they'll do to appeal to "insert vaguely defined group here", you're just making ambiguous assertions about how multiplayer will be bad in some unknown way because some feature may or may not have been implemented because of a group of people who may or may not have ever been a target player base.
I don't remember total war rome 2 being consoles............... Its getting late but sure, lets keep this going some more
Heh good to know it will be separate from Singleplayer 
, Thanks for the information Ghostzodd .
Nah I think after the whole Mass Effect 3 foolishness, Multiplayer will be separate from Singleplayer
I don't remember total war rome 2 being consoles............... but okay lets keep this endless cycle going
How is being a console game relevant?
You've yet to make an articulate point as to how and why Bioware could appeal to "group that doesn't belong to your ill-defined gaming group" here, and why that would have a negative impact on any multiplayer in DA:I.
I could just as easily say Dragon Age Inquisitions single-player is going to have really poor UI on the PC and needs mods to be good because of the influence of skyrim(except here I've actually made a case for features being done a certain way because of a particular gaming influence).
Heh good to know it will be separate from Singleplayer
Whoa dude I am being very optimistic. what I am saying is conjecture, Bioware could go the same route as ME3 and have Multiplayer impact Singleplayer but "I doubt" after the whole (Having to play multiplayer to get the best ending pre extended cut) Bioware would want to go through that route again.
How is being a console game relevant?
You've yet to make an articulate point as to how and why Bioware could appeal to "group that doesn't belong to your ill-defined gaming group" here, and why that would have a negative impact on any multiplayer in DA:I.
I could just as easily say Dragon Age Inquisitions single-player is going to have really poor UI on the PC and needs mods to be good because of the influence of skyrim(except here I've actually made a case for features being done a certain way because of a particular gaming influence).
Well I could go into a rant about EA, AAA publishers, candy crush,mobile gaming, Call of duty,The state of gaming. but I feel as though thats unnecessary. You have your strong opinions about Multiplayer and so do I iam just going to leave it at that.
Whoa dude I am being very optimistic. what I am saying is conjecture, Bioware could go the same route as ME3 and have Multiplayer impact Singleplayer but "I doubt" after the whole (Having to play multiplayer to get the best ending pre extended cut) Bioware would want to go through that route again.
I know you are being very optimistic, but i very much believe( Or rather HOPE) that Multiplayer will not impact SinglePlayer like they did with Mass Effect 3.
And well if they still make it so that Multiplayer will Impact Singleplayer.... i just hope its not overdone.
I may or may not play it if it's there, depending on implementation. I mean, I scoffed at ME3 multiplayer, and I've sunk close to 200 hours into that now.
My guess is co-op castle siege. It'll be thematically tied to SP, but I doubt it will be like ME3. Which is fine with me. It's budgeted separately, so it doesn't really matter to me what they do as long as it isn't mandatory, which it won't be. So why be angry or worried? People need to get that jar of bees out of their bonnets. 
Personally I'm hoping for a repeat of NWN's multiplayer. But without a toolkit, that's just a pipe dream. In this day and age, it might be a pipe dream even with one. 
Can't monetize private servers.
I am pretty sure Toolkit for DA:I will come out a few months or maybe some days after release.
That would be impossible Darkarhon, they have no plans or no 'tools' for us and they will not be there after release. It's a different engine, one they do not directly own or have control over. They 'might' be able to make tools for it for the community but that would require a lot of work and effort for something that wouldn't end up happening for a least half a year and... I just can't see BioWare doing that.
Generally you don't get tools for a game unless its 'part of the plan' at least halfway through development. Most of there efforts will be making DLC and planning the next game. Maybe the next will have a toolset that they'll make to develop the game and release that? Either way I wouldn't expect any tools 'from' BioWare. There will end up being 'some' kind of modding community, but it'll probably be limited in scope.
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