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[ElitePinecone]

Eh, I also thought this was highly exaggerated too. Oh no, people had to spend like an hour playing a few MP rounds to boost their readiness. That is not a big deal. I don't agree with it as a design choice, but it is not like a big offense that should be worried about to this day.

 

It's more about the principle, though. The MP requirement might have only been half an hour, but the developer statements beforehand said multiplayer wasn't required at all to see every ending. 

 

What was promised didn't happen. If it was a mistake, then someone was being incompetent. If it was deliberate, then all of the fans scaremongering about "tricking the players into using MP" and "omg MP ruins everything biower" suddenly sound like they're not so crazy. 

 

And surely, annoying your fans with contradictory statements can't be a good thing. All it did was make heaps of people even more suspicious and conspiratorial about developer comments, and the situation is bad enough after ME3's ending ("no A, B, C", etc). 

[Maria Caliban]

You could get every ending without MP. You couldn't get the one clip where Shepard breathes at the end. They seemed to consider it more a cool Easter egg and not a unique ending as it was just tacked onto destroy.

[Vortex13]

My biggest wish for DA:I MP is that is entirely co-operative; or at least 99.9% co-operative. Competitive play is frustrating when you don't have the twelve hours a day to spend on honing your 'leet skills' just to be competent, plus the nature of competitive play really limits the overall variety that players can expect. Everything has to be balanced with everything else, but PvP takes that notion and cranks it up to 11, to the point where each of the three classes begin to have major overlap, all in the name of balance.  

 

My second biggest wish (more like tied with the first one  ) is that we can play as creatures/characters that are not Humans, Elves, Dwarves, and Qunari. Weird I know, but I'm the guy that would rather see a brand new gameplay mechanic, or unique playstyle, over getting another human/elf/dwarf/qunari with one slightly new power. ME 3's MP would have been really boring if they had never added the alien races; especially the Volus 'medic', and the Juggernaut 'tank'. I would like to see BioWare expand upon the variety found in ME 3, and give us playable options truly outside the norm; maybe something like a playable Mabari perhaps?

 

I know that I would love to be 'Max' the warhound, bounding across the battlefield and protecting my allies with the ferocious loyalty that only a dog can provide. Or maybe, I could be a Sylvan in the same vein as the Grand Oak, seeking to protect my holdings from these demonic upstarts that got a free pass into the mortal plane. Basically, I am hoping for something akin to the variety in the Aliens vs. Predator games (minus the PvP of course); in those games the alien would play completely different from the Marine and the Predator; that is what I am hoping for in DA:I MP.

 

Obviously, such characters would be released via DLC post-launch, but I am willing to wait for their addition; and since BioWare has said that DA:I will serve as a basis for future titles (like the new Mass Effect) then maybe the ME team can take what is in DA:I and improve upon it, and I can finally realize my dream of playable Rachni or Elcor in the upcoming ME title  .

[SofaJockey]

 

...I can finally realize my dream of playable Rachni or Elcor in the upcoming ME title  .

 

[With barely suppressed emotion] Don't get me on the Elcor conversation that would be good.
[Embarrassed with uneasy discomfort] But that would be for the Mass Effect 4 forum.

[Burst of anticipation] I hope that forum section will be created soon.

[hexaligned]

I was going to say, at least according to the wiki (you made me curious). I got the "best" ending, and I never touched multiplayer, and that was before the whatever they patched onto it (only played the game once).  I also thought the endings were fine though, before I came on the forums and saw people ripping their hair out over them (I still think they were fine).

 

Did anyone else play that cheesy little android DA "strategy" game  that came out recently?  I would have liked to have seen a better version of that as a mulitplayer mode for DAI.  It would actually be funish if it lost the exploitative business model.

[ElitePinecone]

You could get every ending without MP. You couldn't get the one clip where Shepard breathes at the end. They seemed to consider it more a cool Easter egg and not a unique ending as it was just tacked onto destroy.

 

Maybe, but given the atmosphere after ME3 I think many fans were less forgiving of the distinction. 

 

There *was* content in the SP that couldn't be accessed without playing MP or one of the tablet games, and that wasn't what seemed to be promised before launch.

[Killdren88]

I think a Poll is in order to see where most people stand on the issue So here http://www.poll-make...0051xb9704102-5

 

Of course it won't get EVERYONE'S opinion, but that is the beauty of Sample sizes.

 

Just bumping this forward for more votes. Want to get as many opinions as possible.

[Morroian]

I honestly hope there's no multiplayer whatsoever. I play Dragon Age for its story, characters, and lore, not so I can hop on the internet and get killstreaks. Better they focus solely on single player rather than splitting their efforts.

 

Once again, there is no splitting of efforts, MP if it exists has an entirely separate budget that would never have been available for the SP game.

[Orctavius]

I enjoyed ME3's multiplayer, but it shouldn't have had an effect on the warescore.  Similarly, I wouldn't mind multiplayer in DAI if it were well done, but would not want it have any effect on the story.  Though, I wouldn't mind if their was a unique weapon or armor set that you could only acquire by playing multiplayer.

[Xerxes52]

I enjoyed ME3's multiplayer, with the sole exception of the RNG shopping system and the occasional griefer or AFK player.

If DA ever received multiplayer, there are three things I would like to see:

1. A "traditional" store, where we can buy individual weapons, armor, potions, etc.

2. Fewer consumables (maybe limited only to health/stamina/mana potions), more permanent items, like the "Gear" slot in ME3.

3. Offline functionality. The closest example that fits would be COD: Ghosts' Local Squads feature. Basically the full MP experience, but playable without an online connection, including DLC content. Player slots would be filled in by customizable AI.

[Killdren88]

Let me ask. Do you think Dragon Cannot stand on it's own without Multiplayer? A singleplayer game with a compelling  story and characters wouldn't be enough to keep the game afloat without some tact on MP mode?

[Deflagratio]

Let me ask. Do you think Dragon Cannot stand on it's own without Multiplayer? A singleplayer game with a compelling  story and characters wouldn't be enough to keep the game afloat without some tact on MP mode?

 

I don't think anyone is saying that...

 

I'd imagine the big push for Multiplayer coming down from EA is the success of how Mass Effect 3 monetized that experience. This may just be the devil we have to take to bed if we want an ambitious tactical party-based RPG in the AAA sense... I don't really have a moral opposition to this compromise, especially if it stays on its side of the fence.

[Devtek]

I was going to say, at least according to the wiki (you made me curious). I got the "best" ending, and I never touched multiplayer, and that was before the whatever they patched onto it (only played the game once).  I also thought the endings were fine though, before I came on the forums and saw people ripping their hair out over them (I still think they were fine).

 

Did anyone else play that cheesy little android DA "strategy" game  that came out recently?  I would have liked to have seen a better version of that as a mulitplayer mode for DAI.  It would actually be funish if it lost the exploitative business model.

 

I try to play it to fill a DA void but I fraking hate energy systems and random boxes that plague those kind of games, there is also the brick wall that hits you a few "levels" in that basically stop any and all progression until you fork out or spend hours grinding enough gold for random boxes. Would prefer it if you could choose who you attack instead of it all being automated.  I did however play the crap out of Dragon Age Journeys and Legends, they were much better games.

[laudable11]

Multiplayer brings in more money. More money funds additional projects.

[Killdren88]

I'm just going to be frank and simply say this. I dislike Multiplayer. No scratch that. I HATE Multiplayer. I didn't buy the Assassin's Creed Sequels because they had Multiplayer. I go out of my way to avoid games that had Multiplayer. They breed toxic communities that create elitist and you see the snide individuals in the forums lording their "Skills" over others talking about how much more skilled they are. Despite my better judgment, I bought Mass Effect 3 and I would just ignore the Multiplayer. But then when I say the tied it with Singleplayer, I was totally livid. but of course my love for Mass Effect at the time made me power through. The experience I had with MP to get my readiness up was absolutely dreadful. I'm not gonna pretend I'm awesome at MP games. I'm not I'm terrible at them and the never ending chain of insults took their toll. I refuse to see this happen to the Dragon Age franchise. Sure they will have it not tied to the Multiplayer, but the fact they were willing to take it that far in ME3 is not okay with me. Keep it Singleplayer please.

 

/endrant apologies. I just really needed to get that off my chest.

[CronoDragoon]

Well for the most part the MP players stayed in the MP forum so I don't the community will be very toxic. If Inquisition has co-op just do what I saw ME3 people do and make a post in the SP forum asking for people to play with. Is it strictly on-topic for the SP forum? No. Do the mods generally let it go because you're much more likely to find like-minded people here than there? I think so.

[Devtek]

I'm just going to be frank and simply say this. I dislike Multiplayer. No scratch that. I HATE Multiplayer. I didn't buy the Assassin's Creed Sequels because they had Multiplayer. I go out of my way to avoid games that had Multiplayer. They breed toxic communities that create elitist and you see the snide individuals in the forums lording their "Skills" over others talking about how much more skilled they are. Despite my better judgment, I bought Mass Effect 3 and I would just ignore the Multiplayer. But then when I say the tied it with Singleplayer, I was totally livid. but of course my love for Mass Effect at the time made me power through. The experience I had with MP to get my readiness up was absolutely dreadful. I'm not gonna pretend I'm awesome at MP games. I'm not I'm terrible at them and the never ending chain of insults took their toll. I refuse to see this happen to the Dragon Age franchise. Sure they will have it not tied to the Multiplayer, but the fact they were willing to take it that far in ME3 is not okay with me. Keep it Singleplayer please.

 

/endrant apologies. I just really needed to get that off my chest.

 

The multiplayer in AC had nothing to do with the single player...

Modifié par Devtek, 21 juillet 2014 - 04:26 .

[ghostzodd]

The multiplayer in AC had nothing to do with the single player...

 

He never said it did. He said he did not buy AC for Multiplayer, He bought it for the story/ single player experience essentially

[Devtek]

He never said it did. He said he did not buy AC for Multiplayer, He bought it for the story/ single player experience essentially

whops, miss-read

[Darvins]

Once again, there is no splitting of efforts, MP if it exists has an entirely separate budget that would never have been available for the SP game.

 

Indeed it can in fact lead to a bigger budget overall. If the maths say's 'This game with MP will sell more copies and thus make us more money' and it gets a bigger budget because they say they can include MP, it is entirely possible assets made for the MP can be used in the Single Player. In which case, more stuff in the Single Player. 

[Afro_Explosion]

It doesn't need multiplayer but if it does thats cool.

[J-Reyno]

I'm just going to be frank and simply say this. I dislike Multiplayer. No scratch that. I HATE Multiplayer. I didn't buy the Assassin's Creed Sequels because they had Multiplayer. I go out of my way to avoid games that had Multiplayer. They breed toxic communities that create elitist and you see the snide individuals in the forums lording their "Skills" over others talking about how much more skilled they are. Despite my better judgment, I bought Mass Effect 3 and I would just ignore the Multiplayer. But then when I say the tied it with Singleplayer, I was totally livid. but of course my love for Mass Effect at the time made me power through. The experience I had with MP to get my readiness up was absolutely dreadful. I'm not gonna pretend I'm awesome at MP games. I'm not I'm terrible at them and the never ending chain of insults took their toll. I refuse to see this happen to the Dragon Age franchise. Sure they will have it not tied to the Multiplayer, but the fact they were willing to take it that far in ME3 is not okay with me. Keep it Singleplayer please.

 

/endrant apologies. I just really needed to get that off my chest.

I don't mock your frustration but I never had an issue at all with the MP community.  In fact, a contributing factor to my enjoyment of ME3 multiplayer was the community, which is really rare.  I usually can't stand forums for long.  The Inquisition forum already makes me nauseous if I browse too much.  But I truly enjoyed the ME3MP forum.  It was a place where I could talk to fans of the game and I found it a lot more sane and grounded than the other ME3 forums.  In fact I think a lot of us did, haha.  Once I settled in there I never visited any other area of the BSN.

 

I'd like something like that for Inquisition.  

[ElitePinecone]

I'm just going to be frank and simply say this. I dislike Multiplayer. No scratch that. I HATE Multiplayer. I didn't buy the Assassin's Creed Sequels because they had Multiplayer. I go out of my way to avoid games that had Multiplayer. They breed toxic communities that create elitist and you see the snide individuals in the forums lording their "Skills" over others talking about how much more skilled they are. Despite my better judgment, I bought Mass Effect 3 and I would just ignore the Multiplayer. But then when I say the tied it with Singleplayer, I was totally livid. but of course my love for Mass Effect at the time made me power through. The experience I had with MP to get my readiness up was absolutely dreadful. I'm not gonna pretend I'm awesome at MP games. I'm not I'm terrible at them and the never ending chain of insults took their toll. I refuse to see this happen to the Dragon Age franchise. Sure they will have it not tied to the Multiplayer, but the fact they were willing to take it that far in ME3 is not okay with me. Keep it Singleplayer please.

 

/endrant apologies. I just really needed to get that off my chest.

 

I don't want to question your choices or anything, because not buying games is totally your right as a consumer, but by ignoring games that have multiplayer entirely it does seem like you're cutting yourself off from some fantastic singleplayer experiences. Especially in something like Assassin's Creed, where the MP has nothing at all to do with the main campaign. I played Brotherhood/Revelations/ACIII/ACIV and mostly enjoyed them all, without touching the multiplayer for a single second. 

 

It's also possible that multiplayer is an unstoppable trend in mainstream gaming, in which case it will be harder and harder to find games that don't include it. If feeling inferior to other players is going to be an issue, it seems perfectly reasonable to either not play the multiplayer or tune out/ignore those people, rather than miss out on some excellent singleplayer games. 

 

Well for the most part the MP players stayed in the MP forum so I don't the community will be very toxic. If Inquisition has co-op just do what I saw ME3 people do and make a post in the SP forum asking for people to play with. Is it strictly on-topic for the SP forum? No. Do the mods generally let it go because you're much more likely to find like-minded people here than there? I think so.

 

Yeah, this. ME3's MP community had their own forum, and to be honest I barely even noticed if they were being elitist or whatever. A game can simultaneously support more than one type of player, after all.