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The satisfied dragon in the room: The suspected and revealed multiplayer


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#26
DarkKnightHolmes

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If it's like Baldur's Gate then I'll love it. If it's like ME3 then count me out.



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Ravenfeeder

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I understand why some people might want multi-player, but I dread its existence. With an engine that's already notoriously mod-unfriendly adding multi-player will just make it harder yet as companies lock everything down as much as possible to deter 'cheating'.

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I'm hoping there is no multiplayer, especially like it has been suggested. Multiplayer should not affect the single player game. I remember when vanilla ME3 came out; getting the "ideal" ending for destroy depended on you having played multiplayer. That sucked.

 

However, if there is multiplayer, then have it be something like an arena where people can pvp or pve on maps. Just don't connect it in any way to the SP.



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I really feel like there could very well be multiplayer. They've always skirted around the issue, which is suspicious itself, and both of those Edmonton playtest surveys brought up multiplayer more than once. 

At any rate, if it is present, I hope it's only co-op. I have no interest in competitive DA multiplayer. In fact,  I've grown fond recently of the idea of variable dungeons as a MP mode. Something akin to an mmo where a party of four clear through a dungeon with variable enemies, objectives, bosses, and layout. Maybe with a few choices or RP moments like a flashpoint in SWTOR.

This in addition to a mode more like ME3's multiplayer or an actual horde mode "last stand" sort of deal. Because as much as I enjoyed ME3's multiplayer, it would have been that much better with some more varied gameplay.  


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Just because it worked in ME3 doesn't mean it'll work in DAI. With their emphasis on going back to tactical combat etc, plus magic and all the classes being quite different from how guns work in multiplayer I just...don't see how it can work.

 

And like others have said, if they have found a way to have MP, then it better be completely seperate from the main game (as in, not doing it won't affect how good you do in SP). And not PvP please.



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If you're been interested enough by what they've shown so far to keep faith with the game, how would announcing multiplayer change that?

 

You'd only be getting more optional content on top of the things you already know will be there.

 

Presenting multiplayer as an act of deception is pretty hyperbolic, I think :P

 

Edit: unless by 'expectant fans' you mean people looking forward to multiplayer?

 

By "expectant fans" I mean both.  Those eager for it and those dreading it.

 

And I will not lie, an announcement of MP in DAI will put a serious damper on my enthusiasm.  I have been burned before by this.  I will be left to wonder just how "optional" this optional content is.



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Considering the lack of MP footage at E3 I think its safe to say it will be SP only. Which is for the best anyhow.

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Apologies double post.

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I love horded style MP, so I'd be all over that if Dragon Age got its own version of it. 

 

ME3's replay value I owe entirely to its MP. And I got many hours out of it. I'm not sure if the universe of DA:i would interest me as much in a MP, but it depends on how well they do it. I'd totally be down to try it though. 


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Considering the lack of MP footage at E3 I think its safe to say it will be SP only. Which is for the best anyhow.

 

We are at a closer point to release now than ME3 was when it got annouced.  Although that was leaked early.

 

Still, the lack of any confirmation one way or the other has me very nervous



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This is what I want to know the most about the game. It's the only remaining piece of information I feel that needs to be released before the game is.

 

I suspect C is unlikely, if they had something they would have told us by now. A, B and D are all possibilities. I would also add...

 

E) They are currently working on it but unsure if it will be finished by the time the game launches.

 

I don't think releasing it as DLC is a good idea. There are a lot of people who are resistant to the concept who certainly won't pay for it and probably wouldn't even download it for free. But they might just try it out after finishing the game if it came on the disc, and in turn might just find they like it.



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I would think that they would've stated if there was no multiplayer. That they keep saying they can't talk it about would let me thing there is something to talk about.

 

But with how big the single player campaign looks, I'm having a hard time imagining that they've had the time and resources to have multiplayer.

 

Eh, who knows?



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I loved and thoroughly played-the-hell-out-of the Baldur's Gate multiplayer. The same with the NWN multiplayer. And the Mass Effect 3 multiplayer. With the exception of the ME3 galactic preparedness thing, I don't think Bioware has made a multiplayer that I did not enjoy. It's a little hilarious how that one black mark has everyone talking about how bad multiplayer would be for a Dragon Age game.

 

So long as it has zero impact on the singleplayer campaign so that those who don't enjoy it don't miss out on anything, who cares? I'm all for it. I would LOVE co-op in the main campaign. I would also be content with a ME3-style hoard mode.

 

I do not expect any multiplayer, though. 


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I'm hoping it's A.  Even though Mass Effect 3 multiplayer was super fun at first, the constant balancing and catering to the elite players really ruined it for me.  I'd only be interested if it was a totally different experience without the random gear unlock system.  



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Can I choose none and opt out of MP all together?


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I preordered 2 copies of the game so I could do multiplayer with different friends.  I don't know what it'll be like or if it'll be there, but I hope so. 

 

I find the ME3 multiplayer complaints baseless.  Multiplayer is not usually my thing, but I had a great time with ME3.  It's effect had no real effect on the single player game, but having them tied together was neat.  I had finished single player before I even looked at multiplayer, so I got no benefit from it.  I have trouble believing how MP could have ruined SP in that game, SP was fully formed and satisfying; I do not believe Bioware would do any less with DAI.  Why must we as a community make these pronouncements about "I'm not buying the game if (x)" or "(x) is proof that this game will be crap."  It's hyperbole.  I hope it's hyperbole, otherwise it seems like there are a bunch of unstable people here.


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I preordered 2 copies of the game so I could do multiplayer with different friends.  I don't know what it'll be like or if it'll be there, but I hope so. 

 

I find the ME3 multiplayer complaints baseless.  Multiplayer is not usually my thing, but I had a great time with ME3.  It's effect had no real effect on the single player game, but having them tied together was neat.  I had finished single player before I even looked at multiplayer, so I got no benefit from it.  I have trouble believing how MP could have ruined SP in that game, SP was fully formed and satisfying; I do not believe Bioware would do any less with DAI.  Why must we as a community make these pronouncements about "I'm not buying the game if (x)" or "(x) is proof that this game will be crap."  It's hyperbole.  I hope it's hyperbole, otherwise it seems like there are a bunch of unstable people here.

 

The problem with ME3's MP is 1) that in the vanilla version of the game, the best ending could not be unlocked without playing MP and 2) that when you have played a lot of MP (as I have now) it is impossible to get a low EMS ending. For instance, I can't see my squaddies die in the beam run because no matter what I have enough EMS to get the best ending every time. So yeah, it does affect the SP part of the game. So I, too, hope that if there's MP it won't affect the SP campaign.

 

On topic: I'm not terribly interested in MP in this game to be honest, but I too believe that the devs' silence on the matter implies that they're at least doing some work on it, or they could just say it's not there, and if it does turn out to be a part of the game I'll give it a shot. I wasn't interested in the ME3 MP either before I played it but now I'm hooked and working on completing all the challenges, so it might just be that this will be the second MP experience to steal hundreds of hours of my life.


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For the multiplayer, if it exists, to be successful and not damage the single player game, two rules must be followed:

 

Rule no. 1 - It must not be a necessary or advantageous part of the single player game, it can complement it but cannot be required.

Rule no. 2 - re-read rule no. 1

 

The attitudes of some 'if it exists I'm not buying' only has merit if it would be forced on SP limited players.

 

Given the development cycle and the comments above, I think there are 4 options to describe the state of the multiplayer:

  1. It doesn't exist
  2. It does exist but it is not finished
  3. It does exist but isn't very good
  4. It does exit and it is good

I'm not expecting BioWare to reveal the truth of it unless they want to and/or are ready to.

This is a rumours category so I'm rumouring and however eloquent the theories of different folk are, that won't make a rumour reality.

 

But to be honest, the evasiveness makes me think there is something under wraps.

 

And whether it is a big thing or a small thing I trust that BioWare will make it  good thing.

 


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I would think if this game had multiplier, they would have announced it by now. So at this point I would be surprised if there is any. 



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I never thought I love ME3 mp but it was fun playing as a krogan or even a volus lol if mp is in DAI I wont turn it down if it doesn't effect the sp campaign in a negative way I will try it out.

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If they have not announced it by now...its obviously NOT happening.



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A 11 wave horde mode with spells and swords would be wayyy too awesomeeee :wub: :wub: :wub:


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I suspect that it was/is planned but that there are some issues/hitches with it that mean it might not be ready. It's possible that it could be added post-launch in a patch/DLC, like GTA Online.



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DAI with a MP like ME3MP would give my opinion of DAI a massive boost



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If they have not announced it by now...its obviously NOT happening.

 

Hm, I think we should wait and see. If it were obviously not happening, I think they would've just said so directly. 

 

All this "we have nothing to announce at this time" phrasing is quite ambiguous.