Instead of wishing that the only scene that brought a note of positivity to the ending was removed, maybe wish that BioWare simply hadn't tied MP to galactic readiness.
Awesome. If you've seen my stance on it you'll know I've said just that in the past - not that it made any difference. I mean, in the post you quote I state straight up that it was a mistake, but again not that it made any difference.
The main reason why I framed it like that is because I was leaving open the possibility that it's seen as an easter egg scene and not intended to be seen as a distinct ending - but obviously fans see it otherwise (which is fine, authorial intent doesn't matter all that much once it's out the door and in the public's hands. I didn't work on the game so I couldn't say for sure the motivations behind the scene).
I also framed it in a particular way to illustrate that the absence of a 7 second scene of the scene invalidates a whole swath of the complaints towards the inclusion of multiplayer. Evidently, though, we're not allowed to learn from this mistake and it still gets harped on as though people think we're unaware of the reservations that people had. Which is frankly just an insulting perspective to have. It's pretty much saying "Allan, I think you do not understand what is being said... so I need to keep telling you until I think you understand." Which based on current action is pretty clearly that people believe I will never understand.
Either that, or they figure that if they keep saying it, they somehow count as more than one voice (which is probably a worse perspective for me to have).
I will concede, however, that I likely also framed it that way because I'm mostly just annoyed by the topic at this point, in large part because of the idea that people seem to think I'm (or BioWare is) oblivious to the feedback.
I know right? That scene is the main reason I loved the ME3 ending. It felt rewarding despite the bittersweet victory.
Yes, well, I didn't mind the ME3 endings in their original state but found it to be a negative part of the Destroy ending (it took an already stretched ending and stretched it even more). So different strokes for different folks I guess.
but as Maria Caliban said, rather than wishing the scene was never in, it might have been better to wish that MP and SP had never been tied together at all to begin with.
Because if your complaints are about the existence of MP affecting the single player game, the solution remedies your complaint perfectly. You're suggesting, though, that that wouldn't be an appropriate solution? Because NOW it seems like you're conflating multiple complaints together which obfuscates the issue. Since you seem to feel that this decision was done on purpose to encourage multiplayer (a position you're still reiterating, despite it actually not being accurate), you start to suggest that the scene itself was created because of the multiplayer/galactic readiness.
It seems to me, now, that your issue isn't about SP content being gated by MP, but rather the ending that you want was gated galactic readiness. Because I actually think this wouldn't be an issue for you if some ultra doomdsay crap ending was gated behind MP. But this is part of the problem with bringing multiple reasons for disliking something into an argument about only one of those things.
If your issue is "MP gating SP" is it not fair to say, then, that if the scene didn't exist at all that you'd therefore have no issues with MPs existence? Or is it that the ending was so subpar for you that it's just extra frustrating that the ending you felt most palatable in a sea of unsatisfactory endings required something out of single player to accomplish. In other words, is your complaint more rooted in how poor you felt the ME3 endings were? Because if it's not, then why isn't the solution I presented an acceptable one? It solves the problem that you keep bringing up.
EDIT: In retrospect (I will keep it up since people have already seen it - and maybe there's some catharsis in venting for people to see?) this post is also indicative that I'm stressed and as a result extra frustated/annoyed/pissed off/whatever at this topic and it's probably best that I take a break. I can't promise a timely (or any) response to any responses people have to this post. Sorry.
Modifié par Allan Schumacher, 13 août 2014 - 02:28 .