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[ElitePinecone]

The good thing is because there is no mp the single player game will be twice as good no doubt about it due to the fact they have used that 5 million dollar mp budget to make the single player game the best it can be.  I'd be jumping for joy as well.

 

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic here.

 

If there was never any multiplayer, there was never any multiplayer budget. No extra money went to the singleplayer. It got exactly as much money as EA thought it needed to be successful, and nothing more. 

 

This has been explained dozens of times. If there is no MP in Dragon Age, the singleplayer doesn't magically become better. Its budget doesn't increase.

[Wirbelwind]

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic here.

 

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Please insert a Phillip J. Fry picture in your post, please do, please please please !

[SofaJockey]

 Please quote a post in this thread where someone who would appreciate MP in DA:I calls people who don't want it "antisocial loners".

 

I do recall one of those, though can't lay my hands on it, and not sure it helps anything to repost it.

It's been a fairly civil thread on the whole, but I think there are certainly deeply held views.

 

If it's going to happen, Pax, end of August is an obvious chance, but so was Gamescom.

 

Three strikes and we're out I think.

Gamescom is strike one,

Pax is possible strike 2.

If we swing past 18th Sept - 2 months to launch - with no news then the speculation is lost.

 

It's just that undisclosed digital content that keeps nagging at me.

[Lenimph]

Seriously the main game is almost completely done. People think that kind of delay is going to be for SP? Sounds like deeeniialll

[Wirbelwind]

I do recall one of those, though can't lay my hands on it, and not sure it helps anything to repost it.

It's been a fairly civil thread on the whole, but I think there are certainly deeply held views.

 

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Yeah, you're right, I wasn't especially trying to make things worse.

 

Well if there were pro-MP people calling anti-MP people "antisocial loners" and equally offensive names, of course it's not better than anti-MP people saying they "despise" pro-MP people.

 

But it's still not a more acceptable behaviour because "the others started it". ^^

 

Anyway ! I was expecting something MP-related during the Gamescom conferences, even if it was to just plainly say "No, there won't be any, please stop asking." which would actually be better than not saying anything, right ? And as people said before, the amount of good opportunities to announce it diminishes with each passing convention.

 

But still... Why not just say "there's no multiplayer in DA:I" if there isn't when they're asked about it ?

 

(Sorry for my grammatical errors)

[ElitePinecone]

PAX Prime is in two weeks or so. 

 

*waits patiently*

 

*twiddles thumbs*

[Iakus]

I do recall one of those, though can't lay my hands on it, and not sure it helps anything to repost it.

It's been a fairly civil thread on the whole, but I think there are certainly deeply held views.

 

If it's going to happen, Pax, end of August is an obvious chance, but so was Gamescom.

 

Three strikes and we're out I think.

Gamescom is strike one,

Pax is possible strike 2.

If we swing past 18th Sept - 2 months to launch - with no news then the speculation is lost.

 

It's just that undisclosed digital content that keeps nagging at me.

 

Wasn't E3 strike one?

[DragonRacer]

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic here.

 

If there was never any multiplayer, there was never any multiplayer budget. No extra money went to the singleplayer. It got exactly as much money as EA thought it needed to be successful, and nothing more. 

 

This has been explained dozens of times. If there is no MP in Dragon Age, the singleplayer doesn't magically become better. Its budget doesn't increase.

 

I'm about 99.9% sure Beerfish was being sarcastic and doing a deadpan tongue-in-cheek of people who believe that about budgets.

 

I say this having "known" Beerfish from the past two years over on the ME3MP forum. We go back a ways.

[SofaJockey]

Wasn't E3 strike one?

 

Could be Iakus - in what sport do you get 4 strikes?  

[SofaJockey]

I'm about 99.9% sure Beerfish was being sarcastic and doing a deadpan tongue-in-cheek of people who believe that about budgets.

 

I say this having "known" Beerfish from the past two years over on the ME3MP forum. We go back a ways.

 

Poe's Law applies here perhaps...

[DragonRacer]

 

It's just that undisclosed digital content that keeps nagging at me.

 

"Undisclosed digital content" could also just be single player DLC that comes out that's not story-based, but rather additional weapons/armors. ME3 had some of those come out and not all of them were because they were adding MP guns to SP. Like, maybe they throw the first one at us for free if we have a code from our preordered game, and any other DLC you pay as you go, as per the norm.

 

 

Wasn't E3 strike one?

 

That would be my opinion as well.

[SofaJockey]

Just all those niggling details and non-denials...

 

Niggle, niggle... (from OP)

 

Nov 2011 - http://www.eurogamer...agon-age-report

Aug 2012 - http://www.vg247.com...evealed-report/ (BioWare survey)

Sep 2013 - http://www.giantbomb...player-1428754/

Sep 2013 - http://www.computera...on-multiplayer/

Feb 2014 - http://www.gamespot....r/1100-6417567/

15 Jul 14 - http://www.xbox.com/...bid=pfb2BlYOlAP (1-4 players - reference later deleted)

15 Jul 14 - https://dl.dropboxus...516/4player.jpg Original screenshot of Japanese Xbox post

17 Jul 14 - https://twitter.com/...772596947197954 - No co-op features announced - yet... DA Twitter.

19 Jul 14 - http://www.examiner....age-inquisition examiner.com article

24 Jul 14 - http://www.dragonage...ition--bit.html Russian unverified MP achievement

08 Oct 14 - http://forum.bioware...6#entry17100418 - Gamescom reveal 'improbable'

 

Other links

 

Oct 2011 - http://forum.bioware...pretty-picture/ Comparison thread: When ME3 revealed MP

May 2014 - http://askagamedev.t...y-away-from-the Does MP steal SP resources? (part 1)

May 2014 - http://askagamedev.t...takes-away-from (part 2)

[DragonRacer]

Could be Iakus - in what sport do you get 4 strikes?  

 

Well, you could get 4 strikes in bowling, but then the word "strike" takes on an entirely different meaning in that case. 

[Lenimph]

Could be Iakus - in what sport do you get 4 strikes?

In base ball if the pitcher throws 4 balls (pitches not in the strike zone, essentially a pitchers strike) the batter gets to walk.

[Killdren88]

Happy as a clam. The Game will be far better off. There are plenty of MP games already. But my optimism is short lived. I know sadly they will figure out a way for it in DA4.

[SofaJockey]

In base ball if the pitcher throws 4 balls (pitches not in the strike zone, essentially a pitchers strike) the batter gets to walk.

 

I see, thanks. I've only ever had the pleasure of watching one Baseball game in my life as I live in the UK.

That was a very pleasant Boston evening watching the Red Sox and eating foot-long dogs. 

 

/OT

[CronoDragoon]

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic here.

 

Based on previous Beerfish posts, definitely sarcasm.

[ElitePinecone]

"Undisclosed digital content" could also just be single player DLC that comes out that's not story-based, but rather additional weapons/armors. ME3 had some of those come out and not all of them were because they were adding MP guns to SP. Like, maybe they throw the first one at us for free if we have a code from our preordered game, and any other DLC you pay as you go, as per the norm.

 

It could be, but again - why wouldn't they just announce those, or include it in the Flames of the Inquisition pack or Skyhold bonus gear?

 

Why the need for a separate category, and a delayed announcement?

 

This is what Derek French had to say about it two weeks ago:

 

Maria asked:

 

Would you happen to know when they'll be releasing information on the 'bonus digital content' that comes with the Digital Deluxe Edition? A number of people asked when the DDE was revealed and I believe all the devs could tell us then was 'We'll let you know later.'

 

Derek said:

 

I know there is a date for this information in the marketing plan, but I don't know it off-hand. Another month, as a wild guess.

 

There was also:

 

[DragonRacer]

It could be, but again - why wouldn't they just announce those, or include it in the Flames of the Inquisition pack or Skyhold bonus gear?

 

Why the need for a separate category, and a delayed announcement?

 

This is what Derek French had to say about it two weeks ago:

 

Maria asked:

 

 

 

Derek said:

 

 

 

There was also:

 

 

Ooooooh, I had missed that post by Derek and that Tweet.

 

Hmmm, hope rising once more...

[ElitePinecone]

One more thing: a place in the marketing plan sounds to me as though the bonus content is kinda important.

 

(And if it *is* MP, then they can do something like "here's MP, every Deluxe/Inquisitor's Edition has extra starting gear, plus buy more DA merchandise like the game guide for more bonus packs")

 

^ That's exactly what ME3 did, by the way.

[SofaJockey]

And the marketing plan appears to be applied in a very disciplined manner.

 

Each release is clearly supposed to have got clearance from the Marketing Elder One (MEO) 

Mike Laidlaw ‏@Mike_Laidlaw 1m

Oh man. Clearance to clarify one more thing. You ready for this?

 

When the schedule rolled back for 42 days, announced July 22, that essentially put a 42 day gap into the marketing plan

which is designed to pump up excitement without giving everything away before launch.

 

As we pass September 2nd (pretty much Pax) we are then back on the clock after the 42 day hold and from that point
I expect the original marketing plan applies. The last few weeks I suspect have been about not letting enthusiasm cool

but not letting it ramp up either.

[AppealToReason]

I'm actually quite surprised at no mention of anything.

 

If it wasn't going to be part of the main presser, it won't be announced later in the week at all. Doesn't make sense to backdoor such an announcement.

 

I'll be disappointed if there isn't any. I was going to pick up a PS4 to play it with my console brethren but I'll probably just end up sticking to PC without it.

[falconlord5]

Seemginly you have had a bad expereince with mp in the past because in general you have no clue what you are talking about.  Despise players who like mp?  One of the dumbest comments I've seen on these forums,....in my opinion of course.

 

Nope!

 

The fandom always kills my desire to play MP looooong before the game comes out.

[Zjarcal]

But my optimism is short lived. I know sadly they will figure out a way for it in DAI.

 

Yes, it will be short lived.