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[AppealToReason]

Honestly, if we are done with Gamescon and there was no mention, at all, of multiplayer for DAI I wouldn't get my hopes up. Chances are it is out, there is a slim chance Bioware is doing something very silly and waiting until as late as possible to advertise a marketable part of the game, but that is unlikely. If you don't expect it then the worst that could happen is you'll get what you expect, and you might get a pleasant surprise instead.

 

But at this point I'd bet against MP.

 

I posted this earlier and why I think we saw nothing at Gamescom from someone who works in marketing.

 

The big thing is that a lot of marketing schedules aren't we go live with *content* on August 18. Its we go live with *content* relative to "launch" or "end date"

 

I wouldn't be surprised if they had planned a Gamescom announcement, but then with the 40-some day delay, they want to keep their marketing calender relative to release which would push something back to the next acceptable date they have. Which is probably PAX.

 

Your marketing calender is all hype material maximized for release, whenever release is. Theoretically, MP (or what else the teased "big" announcement is) could be their 10 week out announcement, to be followed by something else at 8 weeks, 6 weeks, etc.

 

Pushing it back to say like 90 days to release or whenever PAX is, isn't a terrible idea. With such a huge announcement, it would be a great talking point to ramp up anticipation, or at the very least exposure, as you go into the fall game season where every company is blowing their collective loads and competing to get as much space and groundswell as possible.

 

Announcing a MP feature in a previously non-MP game would be a huge announcement. It wouldn't just be a talking point on the BSN. It would be talked about on most game site forums, comment sections, Reddit, 4chan, etc. There would be press embargoes set so that when the green light is turned on, it is in the "news" every where. 

 

Retailers would probably have some form of creative material in the store, with announcements about bonus packs or whatever.

 

Considering that Bioware hasn't released a game in the Fall season since like DAO, they're probably truncating their announcement schedule to grab as much exposure as general.

[AppealToReason]

I'm honestly just curious what the teased "big exciting" announcement would be. Unless it was some big exclusivity announcement or some sort of multimedia crossover into broadcast content besides MP that would warrant such a strict press embargo that seems to coordinate itself with PAX

[Malanek]

Honestly, if we are done with Gamescon and there was no mention, at all, of multiplayer for DAI I wouldn't get my hopes up. Chances are it is out, there is a slim chance Bioware is doing something very silly and waiting until as late as possible to advertise a marketable part of the game, but that is unlikely. If you don't expect it then the worst that could happen is you'll get what you expect, and you might get a pleasant surprise instead.

 

But at this point I'd bet against MP.

On the other hand why wouldn't they tell us there was no multiplayer? They were prepared to just over a year ago, that there was none, but have changed their tune to not talking about it. But I agree from a marketing point of view it would have been better to hear about it if it was in. IMO the only thing that really makes complete sense is that they looked at it late in development, and have something in progress, but are not ready to show it yet.

[Iakus]

I'm honestly just curious what the teased "big exciting" announcement would be. Unless it was some big exclusivity announcement or some sort of multimedia crossover into broadcast content besides MP that would warrant such a strict press embargo that seems to coordinate itself with PAX

The Keep.

 

The "content to be named later" in the Deluxe edition.

 

Some sort of iOS app tied to DAI (bleah  )

[krogan warlord83]

press embargoes make me think mp really at this point(given how much we know of the game and its systems) .what else is their in the games mechanics that would warrant such enbargo ?

 

of course could be all smoke and mirrors just them detailing crafting/CC/skyhold, 

[AppealToReason]

The Keep.

 

The "content to be named later" in the Deluxe edition.

 

Some sort of iOS app tied to DAI (bleah  )

 

The Keep is announced. The only thing would be going public with it. I suppose its a thing, but its not exaclty new

 

I'm not sure "content to be named later" is a large announcement really as it mainly pertains to people that've already bought in, more or less.

 

Ugh.

[Iakus]

The Keep is announced. The only thing would be going public with it. I suppose its a thing, but its not exaclty new

 

 

We only know the Keep is a thing.  But nothing about how it works.  So yeah, either announcing a release date or making the beta public would be an important announcement.

[AppealToReason]

The beta is already out.

 

And I'm not convinced the Keep is really a "huge announcement" thats going to headline a news section on a gaming website. Its another thing like deluxe edition reveals, its for the people that they've already hooked for the most part.

[aaarcher86]

The beta is already out.
 
And I'm not convinced the Keep is really a "huge announcement" thats going to headline a news section on a gaming website. Its another thing like deluxe edition reveals, its for the people that they've already hooked for the most part.

I agree. The Keep has largely been discussed by Bioware directly, not via the media. I don't see why that'd change.

[AppealToReason]

I agree. The Keep has largely been discussed by Bioware directly, not via the media. I don't see why that'd change.

 

I remember when it was announced, however long ago, seeing it as a head/sub head story at the time. Without some super crazy ish involved it wouldn't be something worth re-running with.

[Iakus]

The beta is already out.

 

And I'm not convinced the Keep is really a "huge announcement" thats going to headline a news section on a gaming website. Its another thing like deluxe edition reveals, its for the people that they've already hooked for the most part.

The beta is out, but it's a closed beta.  Opening it up would, I think, be a significant announcement.

[AppealToReason]

The beta is out, but it's a closed beta.  Opening it up would, I think, be a significant announcement.

 

Not one worth headlines. If it was a beta for the game? Definitely. The Destiny beta was huge, because you could play it. A fancy checklist isn't quite on the same level

[Iakus]

Not one worth headlines. If it was a beta for the game? Definitely. The Destiny beta was huge, because you could play it. A fancy checklist isn't quite on the same level

It's the import system for the entire franchise going forward.  For a narrative rpg , yeah I think it's worth headlines.

[Sanunes]

Not one worth headlines. If it was a beta for the game? Definitely. The Destiny beta was huge, because you could play it. A fancy checklist isn't quite on the same level

 

Where did they say it would be headlines? They are just labeling it big news and if its for the people that want to know more about the game, knowing information about The Keep is big news to people.  What classifies how interesting or uninteresting it might be really depends on who the information is aimed at.

[ElitePinecone]

The Keep sounds like something they'd announce on their website. I doubt they'd invite a bunch of games journalists to a playtest session and then embargo their preview articles of the Keep. And why call it a big announcement that they can't wait to reveal? Do you really think the Destructoid journalist is excited about save imports?

 

(Nothing against the Keep, it seems everyone has worked hard on it, but it's not really on that *level* of huge news.)

 

ME3's MP got an embargo, and on the same day that the websites got to publish their stories, Bioware released a trailer, gameplay footage and a multiplayer FAQ.

 

I expect something similar to happen some time over the next two weeks.

[robertthebard]

"ME3 set the precedent on what to expect.  And given EA's apparent choice that everything must have "an online components (which invariably seems to translate to "multiplayer") I reserve the right to be pessimistic until proven otherwise"
 
Not sure how you came to this conclusion, this is pure speculation on your part to boost your argument against MP. ME3 set a precedent?  Could very well be because of the great success of Me3 MP.  To stretch it further and say the online component bit is invariably mp is reaching rather badly.)

It did set a precedent: That you could only achieve 100% galactic readiness via MP. Go ahead, try to get that rating in SP play only. No matter how much planet scanning you do, no matter how many "stalker" missions you do, you'll have 50%, that's all you can get in SP. This precedent is the only thing, literally the only thing I have against including MP here. I already know I don't have to play it if I choose not to, and it's likely that I would choose not to. However, if it can affect how my game ends by not playing it, I'm not buying the game. That's the precedent set by ME 3 that is a deal breaker for me. It should have 0 impact on the SP campaign, and in the case that it is indeed included, and does indeed have 0 impact on SP, I have 0 problems with it being included. The "perk" for playing MP should be playing MP, that's what everyone's harping about, playing with other people, and that should be the only affect it has on the campaign, you get to play with other people. Anything else is grounds for my cancelling my preorder, because I don't feel like I should be "penalized" by how my game ends because I chose to not play MP.

[BabyFratelli]

It did set a precedent: That you could only achieve 100% galactic readiness via MP. Go ahead, try to get that rating in SP play only. No matter how much planet scanning you do, no matter how many "stalker" missions you do, you'll have 50%, that's all you can get in SP. This precedent is the only thing, literally the only thing I have against including MP here. I already know I don't have to play it if I choose not to, and it's likely that I would choose not to. However, if it can affect how my game ends by not playing it, I'm not buying the game. That's the precedent set by ME 3 that is a deal breaker for me. It should have 0 impact on the SP campaign, and in the case that it is indeed included, and does indeed have 0 impact on SP, I have 0 problems with it being included. The "perk" for playing MP should be playing MP, that's what everyone's harping about, playing with other people, and that should be the only affect it has on the campaign, you get to play with other people. Anything else is grounds for my cancelling my preorder, because I don't feel like I should be "penalized" by how my game ends because I chose to not play MP.

 

It's always interesting to me when I hear this because I'm not hugely into multiplayer, I didn't touch it once in ME3, I did do a completionist run through of the game itself (99% paragon, all quests, upgrades, etc) and I got the best ending that supposedly is reserved only for people who use multiplayer.

 

Regardless, I agree. Multiplayer is great for people who like it, but if it infringes on my story I'll probably be a little bit   about it.

[Sir Edric]

As long as MP is fun I couldn't care less if DA has MP or not.

[SofaJockey]

On the other hand why wouldn't they tell us there was no multiplayer? They were prepared to just over a year ago, that there was none, but have changed their tune to not talking about it. But I agree from a marketing point of view it would have been better to hear about it if it was in. IMO the only thing that really makes complete sense is that they looked at it late in development, and have something in progress, but are not ready to show it yet.

 

It's marketing.

If it is there it has had years of development behind it.

From what I understand of game development it is a lot more structured and with longer lead times than people think.

For example I'd guess that the writers aren't just having fun at conventions and on Twitter - I'd say DA4 is active if part-time work work for some at BioWare.

[SofaJockey]

Comment from Blair Brown reported at: http://www.mmorpg.co...g-the-Saga.html

 

"There will be DLC that extends the experience further, although Brown wouldn’t be drawn on any of the details or when we can expect it to arrive."

[Dermain]

Comment from Blair Brown reported at: http://www.mmorpg.co...g-the-Saga.html

 

"There will be DLC that extends the experience further, although Brown wouldn’t be drawn on any of the details or when we can expect it to arrive."

 

Well that's certainly vague, and true about pretty much every game.

Regardless of the presence of multiplayer.

[Star fury]

Actually, Chris Priestly explicitly told us it wasn't.

 

Thanks. It's just another confirmation.

[Iakus]

Comment from Blair Brown reported at: http://www.mmorpg.co...g-the-Saga.html

 

"There will be DLC that extends the experience further, although Brown wouldn’t be drawn on any of the details or when we can expect it to arrive."

Any DLC content short of horse armor or item packs "extends the experience further" of course.  

[ElitePinecone]

We already know Xbox One is getting the first story DLC pack early, due to an exclusivity deal.

 

So I don't think it's exactly news that they're doing DLC

Whether there's going to be multiplayer DLC is a different issue.

[Iakus]

We already know Xbox One is getting the first story DLC pack early, due to an exclusivity deal.

 

Yeah

 

 

So I don't think it's exactly news that they're doing DLC

Whether there's going to be multiplayer DLC is a different issue.

 

There is still the Deluxe content TBA.

 

Though I'm in general agreement that DLC, SP or MP, is probably not enough to count as a major announcement.