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Well, it has been a very long time since I played DA2. So far, I've only finished one playthrough and that was shortly after the game was first released.

 

Just recently I started another playthrough, and I'm actually enjoying the game despite it feeling kinda dull. I've downloaded both Legacy and Mark of the Assassin, so I'm curious what would be the best time to play these DLCs? Act 1? Act 2? Also, which companions would be best to bring along?

 

No major spoilers, please. Thanks in advance.



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Gameplay wise: Most of the special items you get from the DLCs have stats that scale to whatever your level is the moment you obtain them, going no higher than 24 I believe. But they do not improve with level-up like many others. So you may prefer to either have those great items early or put off doing the DLCs until your level is really high in order to get said items at their best. Depends on your preference. 

 

Story wise (this is my personal opinion): MOTA makes absolutely no sense to me at any time prior to act 3, but an argument can be made that Act 2 would be fine as well.

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. I'm not sure about Legacy. I do them both at the beginning of act 3 for a couple of reasons. One being that I absolutely despise act 3 with the passion of a volcano and prefer to put it off for as long as possible, and two, I like giving myself a change of scenery. 

 

Companions: Anders gets a lot of awesome content during Legacy. Would highly recommend. It also makes a ton of sense to bring Carver or Bethany along too. They're both my favorite characters in the game anyways so I just naturally keep them in my party at all possible times. The fourth slot is a toss up. I'm not so sure about MOTA, sorry....

 

Hope that helped. 



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I play both after the main campaign; simply do not require the DLC items before then, and prefer them to be top drawer when received for the conclusions.

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Aveline and Isabela both get a personal quest in MotA (in addition to the trinket one).

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I always play Legacy in Act 2 after I choose my love interest and sleep with them, as they will give some interesting romantic banter in Legacy. However, the ending of Legacy in Hawke's Estate will vary depending on whether you do it before or after the quest "All that Remains." If you do it before, you get some more backstory on how your parents met, etc. If you do it after, you get a very bittersweet moment.

 

Also, the weapon you get in Legacy (Hawke's Key) is very nice and useful in the battle against the Arishok. You have the option to add three "powers" to the Key while in Legacy, but it is possible to add all 12 powers if you know how to use the glitch. Then that weapon is an absolute beast.

 

As for MotA, I always do it in Act 3 at some point, usually after solidifying things with my love interest (this is particularly important in the case of Fenris). The romantic banter is nice if you bring them along, and they get very jealous if you flirt with Tallis, which is amusing. I also enjoy the various scenes you get of your companions trying to "rescue" you, as the scene varies depending on which companions you bring (search YouTube for videos that show all of the various combinations).



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MotA just seems to make the most sense to play in Act 3, since you're both a noble and the Champion of Kirkwall. In any case, I always do them in Act 3 to pad it out, since it's the shortest of the three.



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Well, it has been a very long time since I played DA2. So far, I've only finished one playthrough and that was shortly after the game was first released.

 

Just recently I started another playthrough, and I'm actually enjoying the game despite it feeling kinda dull. I've downloaded both Legacy and Mark of the Assassin, so I'm curious what would be the best time to play these DLCs? Act 1? Act 2? Also, which companions would be best to bring along?

 

No major spoilers, please. Thanks in advance.

 

It really depends. They adapt themselves to what act you play them in. Though legacy doens't make much sense in act 1.I'd say it depends mostly on what items you want. MOTA has a crapload of loot. I think something like a guaranteed 15 gold in act 1 alone. Each dlc has a class specific armor set, but mota's are all different versions of existing ones. Rogues get a red version of sister nightengale's armor. Warriors get a copy of the last descent armor and mages get yet another chantry robe looking set. MOTA does have some really nice rogue specific gear.

 

Legacy has a bunch of interesting trinkets and warden armor. The warrior version is very much like the armor stroud wears but with giant wings on the helmet. Very awesome. It also has a weapon for each class that you can customize although they al look super ugly.



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I just finished playing Assassin dlc and Legacy in Act 1. The Legacy dlc gives you some nice stuff that helps. The armor set and weapon. I've also played both in Act 2. Mostly I play both in Act 3



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Legacy has a bunch of interesting trinkets and warden armor. The warrior version is very much like the armor stroud wears but with giant wings on the helmet. Very awesome. It also has a weapon for each class that you can customize although they al look super ugly.

 

The rogue and warrior versions of the Hawke's Key are pretty ugly, but the mage version I'd consider to be acceptable.



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I just finished playing Assassin dlc and Legacy in Act 1. The Legacy dlc gives you some nice stuff that helps. The armor set and weapon.

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I prefer Mark of the Assassin in Act 1, as it gives Hawke a good motivation to go steal some gem (money) with a dubious elf thief. It is also slightly less offensive for the anti-qunari hawke, which happen to be all my characters.

 

I like Legacy in the beginning of Act 3, because you find a codex entry saying that Corypheus influence may be turning people mad, and that way the whole act 3 plot of people going nuts has some tacked on justification. I also like the scene of talking with your sibling, and find touching the moment when hawke remembers Leandra, it shows how hawke miss her mum.



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Also, which companions would be best to bring along?

 

I'd say Varric, Anders, and your sibling would be the best for Legacy. Anders, of course, is a former Grey Warden, and Legacy is to do with the darkspawn. It's also basically made with your sibling in mind, being all to do with your family legacy (*cough*) and of course if their fates went a certain way in Act 1 it's just all the more appropriate. Varric has a few unique scenes, I think, more than most of the other party members IIRC.



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I prefer Mark of the Assassin in Act 1, as it gives Hawke a good motivation to go steal some gem (money) with a dubious elf thief. It is also slightly less offensive for the anti-qunari hawke, which happen to be all my characters.

For me, the problem of MotA in act 1 is that I have a hard time imagining a snobby Orlesian duke inviting a penniless Fereldan refugee into his fancy party. Now I know people argue that it is because Leandra used to be a noble. I don't buy that, nobility in general and Orlesian nobility in particular are the kind of people who would drop you like a bad penny if you do something as scandalous as eloping with an apostate.

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The loot in Legacy scales to level 26, with the exception of the Hawke's key which scales off your current level+4.

 

The loot in Mark of the Assassin scales to Level 30.

 

So gameplay-wise you might want to hold off on them until Act 3 or even post game in order to get the most of them, although personally I play them before the last main quest in act 3 in order to pad it out.

 

Storywise I don't play Legacy until either Act 2 or Act 3 depending on if I have a Grey Warden sibling. Mark of the Assassin I also don't play until Act 3 and I earned the Arishok's respect. 



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Both seem to fit rather well during Act 3 as MoTA and Legacy do mention some things that happen in Act 3 if you've already done them. Really awesome that they acknowledge you're the Champion too and if you earned the respect of the Arishok.

 

Post-Game not so much as none of the DLC mention Post-Game stuff and Anders fate and absence, if you killed him, isn't explained.

 

So before the Last Straw when you head to the Gallows. Bethany/Carver have excuses for why you can bring them even if you aren't at Post Game.



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Now I'm curious.

 

If you do MotA prior to Blackpowder Promise in Act I, what rationale does Tallis give for seeking you out? At that point, the Qunari know very little and perhaps nothing about Hawke. The Deep Roads adventure hasn't happened either.



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That's a good question. All the more reason to hold it off until Act 3, plus, you get Tallis' comment about Hawke being Basalit-an.



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I like both in act 3, for the same reasons many have mentioned, the champion status for MOTA and family matters for Legacy. It helps to make act 3 feel less tiny and well, less sucky.

 

I save MOTA for after the game is done though, since I really don't like DA2's ending I prefer to finish the experience with something positive.

 

As an aside, both dlcs are super awesome imo, what DA2 could've been with more polish.



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Now I'm curious.

 

If you do MotA prior to Blackpowder Promise in Act I, what rationale does Tallis give for seeking you out? At that point, the Qunari know very little and perhaps nothing about Hawke. The Deep Roads adventure hasn't happened either.

She gives the same reason in both Act 1-2 (prior to becoming the Champion), basically that Hawke was the only one who received an invitation who wasn't a personal acquaintance of the Duke and because he/she was Fereldian and would have no love for Orlesian nobleman.

 

As for myself, I tend to play MotA in Act 2 (before All That Remains) and play Legacy in Act 3 (after Best Served Cold and before The Last Straw). Am also thankful that I play on PC and can use mods to make the unique DLC items have the "Improves with level up" stats on them, lol.



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Now I'm curious.

 

If you do MotA prior to Blackpowder Promise in Act I, what rationale does Tallis give for seeking you out? At that point, the Qunari know very little and perhaps nothing about Hawke. The Deep Roads adventure hasn't happened either.

If memory serves, it is because hawke was the only invitee not to be a personal friend of the duke's family.  When you get there it is implied the invitation was sent by mistake due to them not knowing your economic status.



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Actually you can do whenever you feel like.. After you reach Kirkwall. People will tell you that the first you do should be The Prince as soon as possible, because you get a companion. Legacy one the second act and mota on the third and they are absolutely right. But it all about multiple playthroughs, since you get different dialogs with the dlc in different acts.



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The Exiled Prince is a special case when it comes to the DLC's, because the cut scene that initiates it triggers automatically the moment you enter the Chantry courtyard, leading you to the chanter's board, which is something you're bound to do in the first act, as there are multiple quests that lead you there. I was never certain if you could ignore his request for the entirety of Act 1, but I don't really see the point of doing that either since he won't join your group until the next Act anyway.



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If memory serves, it is because hawke was the only invitee not to be a personal friend of the duke's family.  When you get there it is implied the invitation was sent by mistake due to them not knowing your economic status.

Makes sense that they don't keep updated records as your family should be rich but dear ol'Uncle squandered all that fortune away.



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I like to have Bethany/Carver (around or alive) and Leandra alive before doing Legacy as they both have things to say about it, I always take Anders, myself, Bethany/Carver and Varric for the best storyline options too. Which is why I prefer Act 1 for this.

 

As for Mark of the Assassin, I don't think it matters much who you take, I still take Varric around with me though. But it would suit either during Act 2 with the whole Qunari escalating or at the start of Act 3 after the Qunari mess. Due to Talis being half Qunari herself It creates that tension of trust.

 

Thats my 5 cents anyway :)