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[theskymoves]

From which it follows that you've never played "Kobolds Ate My Baby."

 

LOL no.

 

OMG I looked it up and it's a Real Thing ™? And weirdly enough, I was just playing Neverwinter and killing kobolds in a dungeon. *cue Twilight Zone theme*

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

LOL no.

 

OMG I looked it up and it's a Real Thing ™? And weirdly enough, I was just playing Neverwinter and killing kobolds in a dungeon. *cue Twilight Zone theme*

Your victims were probably individually a match for 2 or 3 KAMB PCs. At least. And if there were any sorcerers in the bunch I'd put money on them soloing an entire KAMB party.

[Mike3207]

The Warden was just that awesome.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

From which it follows that you've never played "Kobolds Ate My Baby."

Nor would I, with a title like that. :/

[Magdalena11]

It was a real blight, with a real archdemon.  Flemeth knew it was coming 30 years ahead of time and started setting up the board even then.  She was also, in the heart of the Wilds, in a perfect spot to watch the pot.  The warden was awesome.  And who knows what's going to happen if the OGB exists?  It could be there might be Urthemiel junior.

[MKDAWUSS]

I'd imagine that Ferelden arrests anyone who denies the existence or legitimacy of the 5th Blight.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

If anyone like that exists by now. Before the end of the Landsmeet even Loghain concedes that it's a true Blight, even if he isn't entirely aware of the implications. (Orlais might deny it as a way of making the Fereldens look like Thedas's North Korea, were it not for the fact that the Wardens are aware and almost certainly wiling to corroborate that there was an Archdemon and now isn't.)

[Fishy]

Mostly because the Warden and his team were formidable.

[King Dragonlord]

It was a real blight, with a real archdemon.  Flemeth knew it was coming 30 years ahead of time and started setting up the board even then.  She was also, in the heart of the Wilds, in a perfect spot to watch the pot.  The warden was awesome.  And who knows what's going to happen if the OGB exists?  It could be there might be Urthemiel junior.

Really? What did she do?

 

Great so the Grey Warden is not the hero, but instead a pawn. 

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Great so the Grey Warden is not the hero, but instead a pawn. 

The two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive. Besides, I thought we already knew Flemeth was trying to use the Warden as a pawn. (And, for that matter, that she can fail.) (Edit: Or at least partially fail, because even if she doesn't get everything she wanted she almost certainly benefits from the Blight being over.)

[Riven326]

It ended before it really began. If Ferelden had fallen to the dark spawn, the Blight would have been in full swing.

[Ryzaki]

The two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive. Besides, I thought we already knew Flemeth was trying to use the Warden as a pawn. (And, for that matter, that she can fail.) (Edit: Or at least partially fail, because even if she doesn't get everything she wanted she almost certainly benefits from the Blight being over.)

 

Yeah I like Flemeth really but choosing to pretty much tell her and Morrigan to bugger off by not doing the DR or killing her is pretty awesome.

[Icy Magebane]

I base my opinion on Zevran's assessment:  the Warden and his team are ridiculously awesome.

[Darth Spike]

Ok I just have to say this, the answer is both. The Fifth blight was a 'true blight' but it was stopped before it could 'take root' as it were. Flemeth basically told Maric there was a blight coming and it would start in Ferelden. So Maric brought back the wardens to fight the blight and end it as fast as possible.


Then when that failed due to Logain screwing over Calian, Flemeth rescued the only two wardens left so they could stop it. The darkspawn were also getting killed by Calian's men before they could even emerge properly.

The darkspawn though all the wardens were dead when the archdemon emerged witch made them cocky. When the archdemon saw there were only two warden's it was so arrogant that it though they would never even reach him, let alone kill him.


There was an enormous amount of luck on the warden's part so that all the pieces would fall together
just right for them to stop the blight.



Oh and the only reason the other blights got so bad was because all the nations were either busy fighting each other to notice them, or they didn't care about the blights until they were knocking at their own doors. Seriously the first and the fourth blight were the only two that caught Thedas unaware. The fourth only because they had just finished fighting each other and had nothing left to counteract the darkspawn.

 

 

 

So to sum it all up the Warden was bada$$, lucky as hell, Flemeth was a hero to a point, and the blight was just cut short before it could really get started.

[NiNjaWaffLesx]

Lets not forget that DLC that I refused to buy "Dark Spawn Chronicles" which is a What If Story. If the Warden is killed by the joining then the Blight would conquer all of Ferelden.

 

Though I'm pretty sure that the Orlesian Wardens are numerous enough to handle the blight anyway 

[King Dragonlord]

EDIT: Oops. Wrong thread. 

[Sifr]

I think that part of the reason was because Ferelden was lucky enough to have an early warning (via Flemeth), as well as the Grey Wardens being returned from exile to keep track of it's progress. Furthermore, even before the Archdemon was awakened, the Dwarves had noticed as early as 9:13 that the Blight was imminent from the massing horde underground, giving a further heads up to those paying attention (like the Wardens).

 

The reason it was so comparitively short then was due to a mixture of preparedness (although not always enough), insane luck on the Warden's part, further interference from Flemeth and managing to keep one step of the horde before it turned into an unstoppable juggernaut of destruction.

 

Duncan and Alistair pretty much spelled it out for you at the beginning of the game that if Ferelden were to fall, it would have taken entire nations working together (which historically has often failed to happen due to politics) to beat the Blight. Ferelden was also very lucky in that the Archdemon got overconfident and decided to show itself so early, allowing them the change to slay it and end things before they had even really begun.

[Yomond]

Do Archdemons know really know anything about wardens? when would they find out? you're an Old god sleep for ten thousand years or whatnot get dug up and infected then start a Blight. do they know wardens can kill them?

 

Anyway I think the Warden just got crazy (the bear that tried to eat you just got struck by lighting and had the winning lotto ticket in his mouth kind of) lucky. The Archdemon would have won easy if I couldn't save/reload.

[gottaloveme]

Wardens are awesome. They zoomed all over Ferelden without ponies and carrying all that stuff (did you see the size of their cooking gear?). I'm sure they arrived at some places before they'd even left. There was only the two of them - but their motto - a warden's gotta do what a warden's gotta do. And they did.

[X Equestris]

Do Archdemons know really know anything about wardens? when would they find out? you're an Old god sleep for ten thousand years or whatnot get dug up and infected then start a Blight. do they know wardens can kill them?
 
Anyway I think the Warden just got crazy (the bear that tried to eat you just got struck by lighting and had the winning lotto ticket in his mouth kind of) lucky. The Archdemon would have won easy if I couldn't save/reload.

I'd say that they have to know about the Wardens. Remember that the Archdemon sends Shrieks to attack your campsite. As for how they know, it probably has something to do with the Darkspawn hive mind.

Personally, I think it was a combination of luck and skill on the Warden's part. If Riordan had missed his jump, there would have been no way to force the Archdemon to land. If Ferelden had been overcome, I think the Orlesians could have handled it, since they already knew about the Blight and begun mustering their troops.

[Elfyoth]

Real Blight, but it could've been much funnier if oghren would scream at the archedemon and the archedemon's head will explode like some kind of a comical movie ^^ joking

[MKDAWUSS]

I'd say that they have to know about the Wardens. Remember that the Archdemon sends Shrieks to attack your campsite. As for how they know, it probably has something to do with the Darkspawn hive mind.

Personally, I think it was a combination of luck and skill on the Warden's part. If Riordan had missed his jump, there would have been no way to force the Archdemon to land. If Ferelden had been overcome, I think the Orlesians could have handled it, since they already knew about the Blight and begun mustering their troops.

 

Ranged weapon projectiles could have done that, too.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Ranged weapon projectiles could have done that, too.

If they'd had any big enough that can hit a moving target. Those ballistae could have torn out a wing, if the Archdemon was sporting enough to hold still. Alternatively, a whole bunch of ballistae all fired at more or less the same time, or failing that having a few fired after the Archdemon had committed to a dodge (if those can be aimed that well) would have done the trick.

 

Or they could have skipped this whole thing and had the mages take shots at the wings, doing their best not to actually land a killshot.

[Kenshen]

Blight lite for sure combined with an amazing amount of luck.  The warden certainly can be credited with putting a halt on a civil war that was about to break out but as for stopping the blight before it got any traction I say Flemeth played a major role in that.  If not for her all wardens die at Ostagar which would have doomed Ferelden.  That sneaky swamp witch just can't figure her out.

[fhs33721]

Do Archdemons know really know anything about wardens? when would they find out? you're an Old god sleep for ten thousand years or whatnot get dug up and infected then start a Blight. do they know wardens can kill them?

They do. In Darkspawn- chronicles you are playing as a Hurlok general and the Archdemon (upon seeing Alistair) orders something along the lines of: "The last Gray Warden tries to reach me. Defend me and slay him."

 

As for the OP. Neither. The Warden just happens to be the most lucky bastard/b*tch in the entirety of the history of Thedas. The odds of Riordians stunt to suceed alone were very low. Then the fact that it crash-landed exactly on Fort Drakon as opposed to... let's say in the middle of it's massive Darkspawn army where nobody would ever get to it is pretty convenient as well.

And lastly that no one else killed the Archdemon on top of Fort Drakon (those guards it fights when you arrive for example) is kind of lucky too, since dying at the hands of anyone that wasn't Alistair or the Warden would have let it escape and then Fereldan would have been done for.