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[andy6915]

I never made that point and I'm almost certain no one else did.

You're fighting with yourself.

Ahem-

Is it confirmed humans are nobility again? This is why I never played humans......

Being a surface dwarf and vashoth sound like they can have good RP moments

Hawke was a human commoner. So don't act like every playable human in this series is always noble.

Well.... Amells were Nobles in Kirkwall , so technically.. Hawke is a Noble.

Hawke's mother was from a noble family, returns to Kirkwall expecting to return to the noble lifestyle she ran from, you have to find some papers showing your mother's legal claim to the Amell mansion, and at the end of Act I you get filthy rich. By the start of Act II you buy a mansion in Hightown and remain living like a noble for the rest of the game.

Noble blood, later wealth, later lifestyle. For all intents and purposes, Hawke is a noble.

No, Hawke's story is a classic "rags to riches" story. Doesn't matter what their blood was, Hawke was born to a poor family in a pisspot of a town and was as common as could be. Later becoming noble is irrelevant. Or is my casteless dwarf in DAO a noble because they eventually become paragon and get their own noble house? No? What if that casteless was of a noble family a few generations back? Would that suddenly make them noble? Because being of a noble family and then losing it all and then that family later becomes noble again thanks to descendants of that family is almost exactly the same situation as the Hawke's.

No one arguing for it, huh?

[Massa FX]

I may not understand the question, OP, but in DA:I before you start to play you'll run thru' something called "The Keep". In it, you'll determine the backstory and presumably (why am I not invited to The Keep's Beta Bioware?), your toon's storyline will be fleshed out based on your choices.

 

There's a blog somewhere that talks about "The Keep" and you can sign up for the Beta.

[zambingo]

Andy, nobody said anything incorrect about Hawke's status. No one said Hawke wasn't poor because in the end he's rich. You're arguing AT PEOPLE about points they aren't making.

[andy6915]

Andy, nobody said anything incorrect about Hawke's status. No one said Hawke wasn't poor because in the end he's rich. You're arguing AT PEOPLE about points they aren't making.

The entire argument was someone saying Hawke didn't count as a human commoner which meant that every human in the series so far has been "a noble". I argued that isn't actually the case because Hawke didn't start out that way. And then it was a debate back and forth about that very subject. If people weren't arguing about Hawke counting or not, this debate wouldn't have started in the first place. The fact that it did says that others are arguing that point.

[Adhin]

I personally hope the start has a Mass Effect 1 style intro to it. I know the whole intro 'starts in the same place', but it would be nice if we had one of those drawn animated things they did in DA2 that narrates where you came from, quick blurp about how you arrived in your current position then blurrs into an in game cutscene with your character and everything going on.

 

Think something like that would give us a good understanding of who we where, why we're there, all that good stuff while leading us into whats about to happen. Least that's what im hoping for, if it's just like in DA2 where I have to go to my journal for a background quip about my past life that'll be a bit disappointing.

[zambingo]

what the hell are you talking about? You just argued with that other guy claiming that Hawke is noble just because
he gets rich after Act 1 in DA2
Stop lying

Work on your reading comprehension.

[Mirrman70]

Hawke is both a commoner and a noble. the only thing that decides which he is is whatever act your playing. First Act he's a commoner, Second Act he is wealthy and his lineage has been acknowledged but he has very little political power. Third Act he becomes Champion which combined with his  wealth and lineage leads to him being a noble at least in spirit if you don't think the title of Champion is a noble's title.  A hobo can become a Millionaire that doesn't the fact that he was a hobo or is now a wealthy socialite. The point in time that you are playing is what determines his social status. If you say his background was commoner so that makes his origin a commoner than you have to consider the fact that his mom raised him and his siblings, which most likely included a level of education not available to the other members of Lothering.

 

By my determination everyone is right.

[KC_Prototype]

Human warrior and rogue are nobility.  Mage might be of noble birth but can't inherit because mage.  That partt unclear.

 

Dwarf is a surface dwarf

 

Qunari is Vashoth who was born outside the Qun

 

Elf is Dalish, but mage is not a Keeper

 

That's all we really know so far.

They confirmed all humans Trevelyans so that must mean the human mage is a circle mage who was fighting in the war and forfeited his or her nobility when joining the circle. 

[Iakus]

They confirmed all humans Trevelyans so that must mean the human mage is a circle mage who was fighting in the war and forfeited his or her nobility when joining the circle. 

 

Or an apostate like mageHawke.  We really don't know the circumstances of why any of these characters would be present at the Breach.