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So this debate on Alistair is finally over.(The Calling spoiler)


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Your just upset that you were wrong. It was obvious this was true.

No people are upset because alot of stuff in DAO is now pointless along with Alistair becoming too close to a Sue and being a balant writer pet.


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Alistair is extremely close to being a Mary Sue now.

 

Dragon blood, mother is a ex warden who cured her taint and was leader oft he mages, a grey warden, has templar powers, is possible king...

 

Jesus christ, there are fan fics better then this. Extremely disappointed.

 

All that's left is a dramatic heroic sacrifice and it'll be complete!  ;)



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What if Maric slept with a different elven woman around that same time?  ;)



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Funny, if any of our video game PCs end up settling down and having kids, won't the children also have parents that are this whatever super person with that special power and ability that has forged legends as they did whatever it was they did?

 

We are the Fionas of the future. <_<

For the ones who can have kids.

*Looks sadly at all female wardens.



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Funny, if any of our video game PCs end up settling down and having kids, won't the children also have parents that are this whatever super person with that special power and ability that has forged legends as they did whatever it was they did?

 

We are the Fionas of the future. <_<

Never knew my female qunari and Josephine can have kids. More you know.


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Seriously though is Allistair really that sueish? Like someone above me said, he can be a wandering, self loathing drunk or be executed. 


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Never knew my female qunari and Josephine can have kids. More you know.

 

Some of my poor femwardens wish they could have kids :(


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What if Maric slept with a different elven woman around that same time?  ;)

He was way too depressed to.



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Seriously though is Allistair really that sueish? Like someone above me said, he can be a wandering, self loathing drunk or be executed. 

He's close, but because of those fates he's not a sue, he is however a writers pet and that can not be argued.


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Plus the amount of BS it would be if she manages to survive 

 

Unless she's the big bad  :whistle:

 

tbh I wouldn't be shocked if she did survive, however her as a romance option is... eh... 


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Unexpected this is, and unfortunate.


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Never knew my female qunari and Josephine can have kids. More you know.

It's called having a surrogate.



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Also she's pretty old now

Hey, I might have gone for Wynne had she allowed me.


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It's called having a surrogate.

How about, no?



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Okay.  I'm not sure what the huge deal about this is.  However, for those that claimed that the writers changed Alistair, he was probably written that way from the beginning.  I'm not too surprised he was lied to about his mother.  It's probably less of a scandal if Maric had banged the washer than him banging an elven mage.   So they lied about it.  Big whoop.

 

Did I miss something about elven blood making someone better in any way?  


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Hey, I might have gone for Wynne had she allowed me.

 

dear god I wouldn't have expected that 


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Unexpected this is, and unfortunate.

Why?

 

Added, their is more theories around Maric and his spawn with Morrigan being theorized to be onr



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I don't mind Alistair being Fiona's kid (and I would love a suitably dramatic reunion) but I'm exasperated that we found out like this. And that conversation with Loghain in DAO now makes no sense whatsoever. I guess that means that he didn't know who Al's mother was, but it just seems weird all round.


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Seriously though is Allistair really that sueish? Like someone above me said, he can be a wandering, self loathing drunk or be executed. 

He is a writer's pet. I mean cmon the most competent version of him couldn't just be left competent instead he had to get a few more special snowflake traits. Hell even Gaider tried to lampshade this by having Varric call him something along the lines of a "special snowflake" in the comic.



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Okay.  I'm not sure what the huge deal about this is.  However, for those that claimed that the writers changed Alistair, he was probably written that way from the beginning.  I'm not too surprised he was lied to about his mother.  It's probably less of a scandal if Maric had banged the washer than him banging an elven mage.   So they lied about it.  Big whoop.

 

Did I miss something about elven blood making someone better in any way?  

 

I always believed him to be Fiona's son and that's fine, you know I love him, the "Dragon Blood" thing is what was a bit far fetched for me


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How about, no?

It's called player choice. They can if the player want to with no reason it can't happen.



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Unexpected this is, and unfortunate.

How could it possibly have been unexpected?

 

 

dear god I wouldn't have expected that 

Might. Leliana probably still would have won, but I would enjoy romancing a mage...



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This is actually pretty damn cool.



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Never knew my female qunari and Josephine can have kids. More you know.

 

Which is, of course, why I said "if." Not every superhero has a family. Or maybe they adopt some orphans. Point is that it's not unheard of for important people to have babies, and whether that was the heroes of a generation ago or the ones some players will imagine their PCs producing, there's a lot of people in fantasy world running around with a hero mum or a royal dad.



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Okay.  I'm not sure what the huge deal about this is.  However, for those that claimed that the writers changed Alistair, he was probably written that way from the beginning.  I'm not too surprised he was lied to about his mother.  It's probably less of a scandal if Maric had banged the washer than him banging an elven mage.   So they lied about it.  Big whoop.

 

Did I miss something about elven blood making someone better in any way?  

Ehh......I could definiately be wrong, but I'd guess its more of a case where DA:O's other plot holes/very, very faulty plot lines come in where some plots kinda got mixed as a result of Origins being in development for so long.

 

Example: Loghain ordering Jowan to poison eamon in the time between the mage origin and ostagar,  Plenty of actions that accounted for Loghain planning on killing Cailan when the plot thread was abandoned due to the Cailan/Celene plot thread having a lot removed, etc.