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[Xilizhra]

But Cullen did not intentionally do anything wrong, Adrina did.

Didn't do anything intentionally wrong by his own standards, which I consider largely trash.

[Hellion Rex]

LOL I thought I liked one of yours too? You know I love when you talk about burning that evil witch.

Adrian is a blight tbh

*prayer circle for Adrian possession by a rage demon*

[In Exile]

If I can get gangbanged into letting Cullen off of the trial I want to put it on, you can stomach letting her live.

 

... Phrasing? 

[LobselVith8]

Were only using witch because we can't put a b in place of the w. Added, we are just upset because of the fact she's a zealot who instigated the war with mages and templers.

 

Lambert annulled the Nevarran Accord of his own volition. And considering how morally repugnant some of us found the Chantry controlled Circles, some people don't hate Adrian for wanting to see her people freed. I certainly have no interest in harming Adrian for wanting to see her people determine their own destiny.

[AresKeith]

How can I be bitter? Nothing's happened yet. In fact, this revelation has been a great boon to us in Fiona's camp.

 

Not really

[In Exile]

Lambert annulled the Nevarran Accord of his own volition. And considering how morally repugnant some of us found the Chantry controlled Circles, some people don't hate Adrian for wanting to see her people freed. I certainly have no interest in harming Adrian for wanting to see her people determine their own destiny.

 

Wasn't Adrian the one who conspired to have Rhys killed? 

[AresKeith]

*prayer circle for Adrian possession by a rage demon*

 

[HiroVoid]

How can I be bitter? Nothing's happened yet. In fact, this revelation has been a great boon to us in Fiona's camp.

The boon of Alistair learning about his heritage, blaming Fiona for abandoning him and all of his childhood, and placing Ferelden against the mages to spite her?

[Hellion Rex]

Ah, yes. Just what I needed, Keith! Thank you.

 

But yup, that looks Adrian.

[leaguer of one]

Lambert annulled the Nevarran Accord of his own volition. And considering how morally repugnant some of us found the Chantry controlled Circles, some people don't hate Adrian for wanting to see her people freed. I certainly have no interest in harming Adrian for wanting to see her people determine their own destiny.

He annulled it based on her manipulation. He would never of gone that far if she did not push his buttons. I'm not shifting blaim from Lambert for what he did but you can't say Adrian is not a fault for poring oil on a fire. Adrian's action did not set her people free, it only turned everything into a war of vengeance. Added, you missed the part that her actions dragged every mage in this war willing or not. Not every mage wants to be free of the circle.

[KC_Prototype]

I feel appealed more to him being a mother of a servant but oh well. I like this as well but think about the scandal it will be for King Alistair if this gets to the public's ear?! But even Alistair doesn't know and the only person alive to tell him is his Elven mother Fiona who could very well be dead at the beginning of the game. Wow, secrets to the grave literally.

[Morroian]

Lambert annulled the Nevarran Accord of his own volition. And considering how morally repugnant some of us found the Chantry controlled Circles, some people don't hate Adrian for wanting to see her people freed. I certainly have no interest in harming Adrian for wanting to see her people determine their own destiny.

 

People don't  dislike Adrian for that. They hate her for what she tried to do to Rhys. 

[Dermain]

Alistair is extremely close to being a Mary Sue now.

 

Dragon blood, mother is a ex warden who cured her taint and was leader oft he mages, a grey warden, has templar powers, is possible king...

 

Jesus christ, there are fan fics better then this. Extremely disappointed.

 

He's close, but because of those fates he's not a sue, he is however a writers pet and that can not be argued.

 

Yes...he is so ridiculously AWESOME now...like wow...is there anyone GREATER than the AWESOMENESS of Alistair now?! 

 

Then again...he is a Warden...that has the taint...that had no interactions with the Architect...so he's likely going to die before the age of 40...and his bloodline will likely die out unless some miraculous children randomly appear...which by all accounts they won't.

Funny, if any of our video game PCs end up settling down and having kids, won't the children also have parents that are this whatever super person with that special power and ability that has forged legends as they did whatever it was they did?

 

We are the Fionas of the future.

 

Yes, but we are the player character therefore we are ENTITLED to be blatantly AWESOME and to be the only people in the world to be AWESOME! So stop trying to make sense!

 

People don't like when consistency is screwed up. Everything with Goldana, alot of Loghains dialog about Alistair and Eamons stuff with Alistair is now ruined and pointless.

 

How is it ruined? Are you unaware of nobility lying to their bastard children of their actual births? It kind of happensAll Goldana knew was that her mother SUPPOSEDLY had another child, and she was probably way to young to remember that her mother wasn't actually pregnant (unless you want to believe that Maric/Eamon had that child murdered). Loghain probably knows even less than Goldanna about the truth of the situation.

 

Unless you believe that all characters should know everything that the player knows...which is a very childlike theory of mind...

 

The only other explanation for your "errors of consistency" is if you take everything from the WoT as truth...even though Bioware even admitted that it was filled  with errors about dates...

 

Okay.  I'm not sure what the huge deal about this is.  However, for those that claimed that the writers changed Alistair, he was probably written that way from the beginning.  I'm not too surprised he was lied to about his mother.  It's probably less of a scandal if Maric had banged the washer than him banging an elven mage.   So they lied about it.  Big whoop.

 

Did I miss something about elven blood making someone better in any way?  

 

If it was made public that Alistair had elven blood the nobles would likely be outraged, and may even go as far as starting a civil war. Elven blood is something to be ashamed of after all, and there have been no rulers with elven blood besides the ancient elven empire...and we all know they were crushed by the superior humans... 

 

Hell, isn't Alistair taking lyrium again? If I remember correctly he said something along those lines in the comics. If so, not only is he going to die relatively young, and he's addicted to lyrium...yes...he is just that AWESOME!

 

(Side note: Since I tend to write how I talk all ellipses are meant to symbolize pauses. You have been warned.)

[leaguer of one]

The boon of Alistair learning about his heritage, blaming Fiona for abandoning him and all of his childhood, and placing Ferelden against the mages to spite her?

Why would he do that?

[Xilizhra]

The boon of Alistair learning about his heritage, blaming Fiona for abandoning him and all of his childhood, and placing Ferelden against the mages to spite her?

Yeah, it took approximately five seconds of remembering who Alistair was as a person to consider that rather unlikely.

[KC_Prototype]

Why do people hate Adrian? I haven't read Asunder (I intend to) but it from read I've read on the wiki she seems ok. 

[Ryzaki]

Yeah, it took approximately five seconds of remembering who Anders was as a person to consider that rather unlikely.

 

WTF does Anders have to do with anything?

[Xilizhra]

Why do people hate Adrian? I haven't read Asunder (I intend to) but it from read I've read on the wiki she seems ok. 

Relationship drama with Rhys, to put it in unspoilery terms.

[Allan Schumacher]

Remember to play nice everyone!

[LobselVith8]

He annulled it based on her manipulation. He would never of gone that far if she did not push his buttons. I'm not shifting blaim from Lambert for what he did but you can't say Adrian is not a fault for poring oil on a fire. Adrian's action did not set her people free, it only turned everything into a war of vengeance.

 

Adrian killed Pharamond (a former tranquil who preferred death over a return to tranquility), but Lambert lead the Seekers and the templars into a war with the mages. Fiona was arguing in favor of the Fraternities taking a democratic vote to emancipate themselves from the Chantry. And depending on which side the Inquisitor aligns with, the mages can maintain their autonomy and gain a place among the Inquisition.

[Dermain]

Why do people hate Adrian? I haven't read Asunder (I intend to) but it from read I've read on the wiki she seems ok. 

 

Spoilers abound:

 

Spoiler

In short, she's the non-possessed female version of Anders.

[leaguer of one]

Didn't do anything intentionally wrong by his own standards, which I consider largely trash.

Nope...

Spoiler

 

He really did not intentionally do anything wrong.

[leaguer of one]

Why do people hate Adrian? I haven't read Asunder (I intend to) but it from read I've read on the wiki she seems ok. 

Betraying her friend to take the fall for murder, instigating a plan to manipulate the temper to attack the mages and starting a war and

Spoiler

triggering a stage of event that get Wynne killed

is something to like about a person?

[LobselVith8]

People don't  dislike Adrian for that. They hate her for what she tried to do to Rhys. 

 

Adrian killed Pharamond and framed Rhys to provoke Wynne into changing her stance. We also have companions who have done far, far worse, but some of the same who dislike Adrian like those companions in spite of what they have done.