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[NuclearTech76]

The times I see both guns.. they seldom have the smart choke on them. I just don't get it..

The Silvair wall of lead theory. 

[Dennis Reynolds]

Yes, it's not as satisfying as The Claymore or as effective as The Raider but still great.

[Akir388]

Hell yeah! It's my favorite gun to use with the melee Shadow build.

[megabeast37215]

Why?

Boss DPS.

I think the Talon is better vs mooks though.

[Turian Master Race]

Boss DPS.

I think the Talon is better vs mooks though.

 

I agree, but on gold and below mook killing is more prominent. On top of that the Talon has better mods and you don't have to sacrifice a slot for accuracy. Even on plat there is plenty of mook killing.

[megabeast37215]

I agree, but on gold and below mook killing is more prominent. On top of that the Talon has better mods and you don't have to sacrifice a slot for accuracy. Even on plat there is plenty of mook killing.

It depends on the faction. Collectors/Reapers is more boss oriented.. Geth/Cerberus has more.mooks.

I'm defining a boss as something that only gives +40% headshot multiplier.. because without headshots the Talon isn't uber badass IMO.

[q5tyhj]

Its still a really good gun, even if its less fun than... well, pretty much every other shotgun (of the rares and ultra-rares at least). I'll throw it on the GI or Turian Soldier every now and then just because it absolutely wrecks face with those RoF/accuracy boosts. 

[Ribosome]

Turian Havoc. 

 

QFE. 

 

Human Engineer. 

[LemurFromTheId]

The times I see both guns.. they seldom have the smart choke on them. I just don't get it..

 

Isn't it obvious? They wouldn't be able to use both ULM and Spare Thermal Clip on it.

[megabeast37215]

Isn't it obvious? They wouldn't be able to use both ULM and Spare Thermal Clip on it.

The sad part is thay you're pretty spot on.. some use a shredder mod too.

[Miniditka77]

I agree, but on gold and below mook killing is more prominent. On top of that the Talon has better mods and you don't have to sacrifice a slot for accuracy. Even on plat there is plenty of mook killing.

 

It's not as though the Piranha is bad against mooks.  It still tears them apart pretty quickly, especially if you have an accuracy-boosting power or you're at close range.  Also, if you're not good at headshots (a lot of people aren't), I don't think the Talon is that much better against mooks.

[Pheabus2009]

Why not? it's an awesome gun.

[IxMerc04]

I think the Piranha is great against mooks and bosses it is probably my second favorite shotgun, I also find myself getting more headshots with it than the talon because the spread is bigger but thats just me.

[MaxCrushmore]

Good question though .. which is better vs bosses? Gi / Piranha or GI / Raider

 

I mean, both are insanely powerful ...

[megabeast37215]

I also love the Piranha bc I was an AA12 nerd in Modern Warfare 2.. there's just something about a full auto shotgun that is dead sexy to me.. even more so if it has a big ole drum magazine.

[NuclearTech76]

Good question though .. which is better vs bosses? Gi / Piranha or GI / Raider

 

I mean, both are insanely powerful ...

Piranha on Praetorians and Atlases IMHO for sure.

[IxMerc04]

I also love the Piranha bc I was an AA12 nerd in Modern Warfare 2.. there's just something about a full auto shotgun that is dead sexy to me.. even more so if it has a big ole drum magazine.

I feel the same way plus the amount of hate mail one can get using the AA12 in MW2 was Level 100 Awesome Sauce.

[Kinom001]

On up close kits it still gets a workout. Particularly on some of the more durable vanguards, BatSent and Shaman.

[capn233]

Piranha on Praetorians and Atlases IMHO for sure.

 

Only if you are out of ammo for the Raider.

[MaxCrushmore]

Piranha on Praetorians and Atlases IMHO for sure.

 

 

i would tend to agree, but if you were playing in a laggy off-host scenario, would the Raider be better then?

 

IMO it is a sliding scale between hosting (Piranha) and lagging off host (Raider)

[me0120]

Pirahna is just easier. It isn't headshot dependent like the Talon and it isn't reload cancel dependent like the Raider.

[capn233]

The Raider has better sustained DPS than the Piranha, I don't know why we are singling out the highest HP enemies for that comparison.

 

I agree with me0120 that the Piranha is simpler to use.

 

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GI HM(4b5b6a) NA (4a5a6b) Rail3 AP4 HCB/SC

 

Sustained Armor DPS

 

Raider 2980 (2745 w/ HM off)

 

Piranha 2703 (2377 w/ HM off)

[LemurFromTheId]

Piranha may be better if you want really fast cooldowns. I prefer it on Valkyrie for example.

I don't use either all that often, really. They're powerful for sure, but I'm more into surgical precision.

[INFINITY650]

The only reason I don't use it, it feels like cheating. Can't be beat on a GI with Inc. ammo, its all over.

[Loufi]

Yes, each time I do the Shotgun Mastery, so pretty often. Awesome gun on kits with accuracy or stability bonuses. Taking it is also the occasion for me to use one of the 255 stabilization modules I generally have in stock.