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[Undead Han]

Speaking of Asian characters...I think it would be cool if the Fex turned out be a culture loosely based on the Mongols.

 

That is assuming that the Fex are human, and not a non-human race that we haven't met yet.

[Nyeredzi]

Rivaini is like the Spain under Muslim occupation, while Antiva is the Spain under Christian occupation.

 

The Muslims who invaded Spain were North African Muslims along with Arab Muslims. After being conquered, Spain became ruled by the African Muslims for almost 800 years.

 

 

 

The Qunari are the Arab Muslims, influencing the Rivaini/North Africans.

 

Or

 

The Arabs and the North Africans are the Kossith Qunari.

 

The horned pale ones being the Arabs, while the hornless darker ones are the North Africans.

 

The Rivaini are the Spanish-Europeans (which are the Thedasians), and they are being converted into Muslims (the Qun) by the Arabs and North Africans Muslims (which are the Kossith Qunari). 

[Grieving Natashina]

I thought this was relevant:

 

 

 

Carson McConnell ‏@cancerbaby 

I don't understand the logic behind "diversity shouldn't be a concern in fantasy games that don't take place on earth"

 

Carson McConnell ‏@cancerbaby 

if it's a fantasy world not bound by earth rules, there is literally NO REASON for the cast to be entirely white

 

Carson McConnell ‏@cancerbaby 

(if the game IS set on earth, there's also no reason for the cast to be entirely white, but i'm trying to wrap my head around gamer logic)

 

Carson McConnell ‏@cancerbaby 

if your ideal fantasy wish-fulfillment world only has white people in it, that's kind of ****** creepy. just saying.

 

[adorkable-panda]

Being an Asian male, I'd love to be able to create more Asianesque characters and meet them of course. But Thedas is a continent, not the entire universe so I'm hoping that perhaps in Future DA games we might be able to explore or at least be introduced to more asiatic cultures in Thedas, but I totally understand that they can't do these things now since they're focusing on what they have now. It'd be nice though. 

[The Hierophant]

Speaking of Asian characters...I think it would be cool if the Fex turned out be a culture loosely based on the Mongols.
 
That is assuming that the Fex are human, and not a non-human race that we haven't met yet.

I wouldn't be surprised if they looked like Gungans.

[Devtek]

Speaking of Asian characters...I think it would be cool if the Fex turned out be a culture loosely based on the Mongols.

 

That is assuming that the Fex are human, and not a non-human race that we haven't met yet.

 

I'm sorry but...nooooooooo. A people based on a nomadic, horse centric culture stuck on a jungle & rain forest filled island would not work. No Mongol would lose to a qunari anyways...

[Nyeredzi]

I'm sorry but...nooooooooo. A people based on a nomadic, horse centric culture stuck on a jungle & rain forest filled island would not work. No Mongol would lose to a qunari anyways...

Er, Thailand, Vietnam, and Southern Asia is jungle.....And Africa, Africa is savanna and deserts...

 

believe me, there are no lions in jungles

[Jedi Master of Orion]

I think the Qunari themselves are what is (very) loosely based on the mongols.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

IMO, our companions and followers are racially and nationally diverse.

 

That is good enough for me. 

[Nyeredzi]

I think the Qunari themselves are what is (very) loosely based on the mongols.

nope, Islam

[Daerog]

If one travels north east they will come across another nation known as the Jade Empire. There they believe the spirits of the Fade to be some sort of Celestial Bureaucracy and they had specialized mages who could help spirits cross into the Fade. They had lyrium that helped make their palaces float. The video game Jade Empire is set in two Ages after Dragon.

 

(Geez, talk about racial diversity, there were only Asians in Jade Empire except for the one stereotyped imperialist caucasian male, sheesh. /sarcasm)

 

Edit: Also, just want to say that not everything is a one to one inspiration. Antiva is inspired by both Spain and Italy, the Qun is inspired by multiple things, and Thedas while inspired by medieval Europe is not limited to Europe for inspiration.

[Corypheus]

tbh I'd rather see more diversity amongst all the Thedosian races rather than (for example, and speaking of this as an asian person), asian (looking) ppl being relegated to an unknown ~fantastical race~

 

^{that being said I'm looking forward to making an asian (looking) qunquisitor in the undoubtedly much improved CC!}

[Jedi Master of Orion]

nope, Islam

 

You act as if there has to be only one piece of history that inspires each piece of the lore.

[Wolfen09]

well, i do find it strange that there isnt a set place where those of different skin tones reside (besides antiva and rivain, but i attribute the rivani to the whole pirate thing making it a tan, not an actual true skin).  all of them just seem to be scattered about, just one weird little tidbit

[Feybrad]

Qunari seem to fulfill a Role in the Story that mirrors the Spread of the Islam trough north Africa and south Europe in the early and high middle Ages, rather than the mongol Hordes that spread trough the East. Culturally they have not very reminisce to either Culture. Everyone okay with this? Can we move on?

[KC_Prototype]

Let's just say as one of the few 'white boys' in my huge family of Afro-descended PoC I'm a proponent of a TES game set in Hammerfell and a DA game set in Rivain.

I support this! Also, you're family are Afro decedents? Cool.

[KC_Prototype]

well, i do find it strange that there isnt a set place where those of different skin tones reside (besides antiva and rivain, but i attribute the rivani to the whole pirate thing making it a tan, not an actual true skin).  all of them just seem to be scattered about, just one weird little tidbit

Well, that's because of the Eclispe engine's poor ability to render dark skin color correctly. Trust me, if Isabella and Duncan were in DAI, they look black.

[Aolbain]

There is no reason there can't be a group of people (prefebly from Orlais or Tevinter, as we know they have multi-ethnic heritage) that look like what we would call Asian (I'm guessing we mean East Asian).

[Maria Caliban]

Why did the Eclipse engine not render dark skin properly? Because BioWare's engineers built it to render pale skin.

Why is it that we've only had games in the southern, cooler areas where everyone is white? Because that how BioWare made its world. Humans are not native to Thedas. Their skin tone doesn't reflect changing to the climate.

Dragon Age was conceived and built as an all white setting.

I'm glad BioWare has changed its mind in regards to race. However, as someone who asked these questions when Dragon Age: Origins was still being worked on, I remember quite clearly developers saying that they intended DA to be Northern European and if people wanted non-white humans, well... Rivani were a bit swarthy.

[Ieldra]

Without denying that problems exist in RL: I hate how absolutely *everything* turns into a represenattion issue.

[Herr Uhl]

nope, Islam

 

They're also loosely inspired by the Borg and Confucianism.

[Maria Caliban]

David has expressed regret about his wording of that statement.

[Herr Uhl]

David has expressed regret about his wording of that statement.

 

Yes. But I think that the main thing to take away from it is that the Qunari are not a direct analogue for any culture, current or dead.

 

The only similarity between the Qunari and the Caliphate is that they are adversarial to "Europe" and that they have gunpowder earlier than the "European" states.

[mikeymoonshine]

No, I don't. The body produces melanin(the dark skin/hair pigment) when exposed to sunlight/heat/whatever, its a defensive measure. When people moved out of Africa and into colder climates, there was no longer a need for that much melanin so it went away. A white person is essentially someone that doesn't produce much melanin. White people didn't "develop" white skin, they lost the dark pigment.

 

You did in your comment even if it was just the way you phrased it. Dark skin has most likely existed longer than humans have, we didn't develop it as a defense against the sun we inherited it. We may have inherited it because it's better against heat and sunlight but that's not the same thing. 

 

There was no longer a need for it but there is also no clear reason why humans would lose it. There isn't really a significant benefit to not having it in cold climates and not every cold climate is populated with white people. Darker skin and hair genes are also more dominant and traits don't just leave when you no longer need them. 

 

So there were probably many other factors at work, there is no clear consensus in the scientific community about what actually caused people to become white.