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[Crangiopharengoma]

I don't like #2 either.

 

The idea of an external galaxy threatening force to unite all races has been done.

 

I'd much rather see the threat coming from within, and with less clear morale decision making. Essentially rebuilding galactic civilization where failing a quest means war between two races (or perhaps more a limited - a skirmish between two armies which ramp up tensions etc).

 

Bioware would have to be unbelievably brave to make a game without a traditional antagonist. But I think it could be done. Success can be measured by the morality a player wants to take.

 

If you're a human that wants to create a human dominated society then your choices would be aimed towards that. Maybe you're an isolationist Turian who wants to focus on re-establishing the existing Turian empire, in which case you might focus on dealing with conflicts between colonies and other worlds, making sure other races leave you alone, responding in force where needed and with delicacy where not. End game might be a restored Turian Empire that is self-sufficient and safe. Or you might be an Asari collaborationist who wants to re-establish the old Council (or similar) so you're trying to build alliances, capitalise on the remaining goodwill from the alliance against the reapers.

[Farangbaa]

You guys still don't know ME4 is about killing your new synthetic overlords after destroying the Reapers?

 

Geez people, get with it.

[Daemul]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Mass Effect 4 should be set in a dystopian society. It's the natural course for the galaxy to take after a devastating war which left every planet which housed space faring species on fire, saw the Citadel as the site of mass slaughter, left billions dead and billions more displaced, there is going to be a major breakdown in society. The conflicts would be much smaller in scope, and instead focus on more deeper issues of society like politics, economics, ethics, religion, science, technology etc.

 

Then again, this is Bioware. I don't trust them to write this setting well at all, they'll probably try to add their own eccentricities and ruin it. I might just have to wait for Cyberpunk 2077 for this sort of game. 

[Pee Jae]

I really disagree with needing a bigger threat. What we need now is what made ME 1 and 2 good; a central enemy that has a massive army behind them. Saren had the geth and er... well, I guess Harbinger could be called the Collectors' leader. But, imagine if there had been a fleet of Collector ships? IMO, we need something like that for ME4's main bad. Give them a charismatic leader and make them powerful, diversify them a little by having a few different types of enemies. I don't mean like Reaper forces, I mean different alien types, all sworn to this leader. Then, at the end of this new trilogy (if it is one), you "get" the leader. By espionage and stealth, preferably, whilst during some huge climactic battle.

 

Ya know, something like that. 

[dgcatanisiri]

No matter what Bioware does, the next game's enemy will be compared to the Reapers by legacy players.

 

Darned no matter what they do...

 

This threads consensus is that they should go smaller and more personal? I agree. I think making it directly personal to the protagonist can be more compelling in a sense of personal desperation instead of a galaxy wide feeling of obligation.

 

Exactly my thought on the subject. How to side-step the inevitable comparisons to the Reapers? DON'T DO THE SAME DAMN THING. If the threat is more of a smaller scale with a more personal impact on the player character, they're explicitly not the Reapers, yet still able to provide a threat because it's a completely DIFFERENT story.

 

The last thing they should be trying to do is create a threat that's 'like the Reapers, BUT WORSE.' I mean, come on, does it really get much worse than 'machines that will wipe out all advanced civilizations in the galaxy?' Anything like the Reapers will inevitably come off as BioWare just copying themselves, and no one wants that.