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[Devtek]

Should be easy for a Dalish mage. You're probably a keeper of your own clan, never stepped foot in a circle and grew up being told that Dalish = good, Shem = bad.

 

A Dalish would identify as an elf first, mage second.

The elves wouldn't really be dalish and from everything we have seen the dalish care diddly for city elves...i guess you could play one that is different i suppose but the city elves wouldn't get my vote.

 

And if you think that the elves would do anything different than the humans then you are deluding yourself; to paraphrase TME.  "The elves had a great empire once; who were the servants there? Other freaking elves.".

[TK514]

Reasonably open space, Mages.

Forests, Dalish.

[SnakeCode]

Reasonably open space, Mages.

Forests, Dalish.

Mages would just burn the forest down though. 

[The Hierophant]

Brilliant. We must do the same with Gaspard and Celene. It will prove they have the strength needed to lead Orlais.

I have a nagging feeling that they'd both survive the fall, climb back up and then i'll be back at square one.

But then you'll awaken the devil inside the survivor/s, who will devote every aspect of their being into taking their vengeance upon you.

I've prepared for this eventuality. *checks basement of mansion to see if father is still sealed up*

Ha. Heihachi being a douchemiser is an understatement.

[SnakeCode]

Have you seen the Tekken animated movie? I think it's brilliant.

[The Hierophant]

Have you seen the Tekken animated movie? I think it's brilliant.

Got the 97' one on vhs and digital.

[SnakeCode]

Got the 97' one on vhs and digital.

Oh yeah! Same here, that's what i'm talking about!

[The Hierophant]

Oh yeah! Same here, that's what i'm talking about!

Lee Chaolan is my fav but the way Heihachi made him skid on his head across the sand with his backhand is timeless.

Kazuya's assassination attempt "What? OH DAMN!" scene with Nina's grenade is a classic too.

Yeah i'm going to ease up on the off-topicness. But those memories though.

[lil yonce]

Huh? I didn't hear mages. vs. city elves faction battle in that quote if that's what this thread is about. I heard an elf commenting that humans the elves in the area are counting on for support wouldn't protect them, their homes etc. from mage raids on the account of them being elves. Its a strong condemnation of humans in Redcliffe, and in the context of the comment the racism is clearly the point. I mean, aren't mages attacking civilians as indiscriminately as the templars? I thought that was the situation. Again, I didn't hear faction battle in this though if the Inquisitor must decide between innocent, defenseless villagers - elves or otherwise - and helping their attackers, I'm going to help the villagers.

[SgtSteel91]

Recruit the Mages. Then mages will be saving elves from other mages.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

I should mention that it is said by what appears to be a City Elf. A Dalish elf would have no reason to think or expect Shemlen would or even should protect his people. So it appears to be a group of mages attacking a defenseless group of poor people, not two sides fighting.

 

Also when someone said they would treat the situation like Heihachi Mishima did, initially I thought they meant this:

 

[The Hierophant]

Heihachi for Emperor of Orlais.

The Inquisitor definately needs that tiger skin coat though.

[Xilizhra]

Firstly, is there any kind of context on this at all? I'm lost.

 

Second, both. What, you don't think there'll be a third option on this?

[Reznore57]

Firstly, is there any kind of context on this at all? I'm lost.

 

Second, both. What, you don't think there'll be a third option on this?

 

Elves are killed by mages , but in the demo you also have an elven woman asking for help because templars butcher her husband thinking he was a mage.(he wasn't ...)

Anyway the story is ...Mages and templars are causing a mess.

I'm pretty sure city elves live in slums and outside cities and get minor protection from human lords, so they are caught in the middle.

They die and no one cares.

[Xilizhra]

Elves are killed by mages , but in the demo you also have an elven woman asking for help because templars butcher her husband thinking he was a mage.(he wasn't ...)

Anyway the story is ...Mages and templars are causing a mess.

I'm pretty sure city elves live in slums and outside cities and get minor protection from human lords, so they are caught in the middle.

They die and no one cares.

Undoubtedly. This isn't exactly unexpected, and I seriously doubt a major elf vs. mage conflict will arise; definitely not one that exists without elf vs. templar, judging by what you said.

[Vit246]

[Reznore57]

Undoubtedly. This isn't exactly unexpected, and I seriously doubt a major elf vs. mage conflict will arise; definitely not one that exists without elf vs. templar, judging by what you said.

 

Well it's my overall feeling.Elves are victim of the collateral damages  from the fight between mages and templars.

Both sides picks on elves.

Anyway it seems in Redcliffe , mages and templars there are on full renegade feral mode and are attacking everyone and everything.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Now why would I want to help insane psychos that are wearing robes and want destroy everything around them and in fact they do since first dragon age product was created?

 

I don't mind elves they would be great cheap labors when mages would only screw me over as always they do.

[Inquisitor7]

"Mages vs Elves" isn't even a thing, unless one willingly ignores the context of the situation that produced said quote.

yea I think it is just a small dispute/misunderstanding. Either way we can't assume that the are even in a disagreement with ferelden mages it could be tevinter.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

I don't think it's supposed to be Tevinter culprits. Based on all the other ambient dialogue of the area, I think the implication is that we're seeing the direct and indirect collateral damage that results from the larger Mage-Templar War.

[ISpeakTheTruth]

Elven culture places mages as their leaders and they view them as wise protectors and guardians.... there is no elf vs mage.

[Xilizhra]

I don't think it's supposed to be Tevinter culprits. Based on all the other ambient dialogue of the area, I think the implication is that we're seeing the direct and indirect collateral damage that results from the larger Mage-Templar War.

Shame the templars declared it, to be sure.

[Eveangaline]

Sucks to be an elven mage then not welcome on either side

The dalish are a mageocracy, they're quite welcome there if they're desperate and willing to convert

[Wolfen09]

not one to nitpick, but if we look at injustices done to both parties throughout history, as well as ways to escape their fate (I.E. tevinter, or dalish), then i think it has to go to the elves.

 

The mages are taken when they are first discovered to have magic, forced to live in a tower with abusive templars (usually) for the rest of their lives, but if not found they can blend and hide as just the race they were born, or they can escape to tevinter where magic rules.  Like the elves, back in the days of the old tevinter empire, magic ruled the known world.

 

The elves in the cities are constantly discriminated against, basically treated like slaves, and are slaves in tevinter.  Those of the dalish live close to the land and must do without the perks of living in a city, but they lack the amount of discrimination the elves in the city get (though they are still looked at like the other elves from outsiders).  The elves, over their entire history, have been on a bad luck streak, they once owned a great empire that spanned the entire known world, before the humans appeared and took it over as their own starting the tevinter empire.  Then after they helped free the people from the chains of the tevinter empire, they were given their own "country" The Dales.  This did not last long as an attack presumably started by the elves prompted an exalted march leading to the destruction of the country, thus scattering them again.  Elves have a few choices, live as a servant close to that of a slave in the alienage, live as a slave in tevinter, or join the dalish.  The elves who join the circle of magi as mages, might see the life as an upgrade compared to their other options.