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[Elite Midget]

Instead of something like the ME2 and ME3 system that let you choose past events? That's what I heard from this article here.

 

http://au.ibtimes.co...-characters.htm

 

[By default, players who do not import DA 1 and DA 2 saves will get the default settings such as the Ultimate Sacrifice of the Dalish Warden, King Alistair of Ferelden and the mage Hawke who sided the Circle of Magi in Kirkwall.]

 

I would much prefer ME2/3's way of doing things since 2015 is a long time and there are those on next gen consoles who wont be able to important even if they wanted to. Don't want to feel like I would be punished for getting a next gen console version or anything as currently I doubt my computer will run DAI and a next gen console is much cheaper than a completely new rig currently for me.

[NoForgiveness]

Bioware/ea needs to step up marketing for the keep....

[Elite Midget]

Something the matter with you using the keep like everyone else?

Does the Keep even work between cross gen? Like... 360/PC -> PS4 because I totally am all about Playstation now after that first X1 E3 disaster.

[aTigerslunch]

The Keep is a cloud not limited to pc/consoles. There was comments in Raptr thread. I cant link it with this laptop for some reason. Wont do pasting.

 

Anyways it was said choices will be given and their will be pictures of options to help remember what it is. Then the keep loads data to Inquisition.

[Burricho]

The keep works on any platform...

[adorkable-panda]

Yeah..... basicallt everything everyone's said lol. I don't mean to sound condescending because I know a lot of people have a life and I don't and I stalk DA info since the February of two years ago. But yes, Keep works on EVERY platform, and will be even better than the ME genesis DLC in every single way. So far we know there are at least 300 questions to answer and that's just for now. 

 

I'm assuming they're gonna have a streamlined Keep for those who just wanna make big alterations and then smaller branches for those who want to flag important side events. 

[Hizoku]

Does the Keep even work between cross gen? Like... 360/PC -> PS4 because I totally am all about Playstation now after that first X1 E3 disaster.

you won't be needing your old saves, the keep pretty much allows you to create new ones.

[Fast Jimmy]

Bioware/ea needs to step up marketing for the keep....

Yep. They are playing things so close to the vest with it that they are setting themselves up for failure. Come release day, people are going to be SO confused about how any if it works, just because people who have been trying to figure that out for more Han a year can't give straight answers to simple questions and we're less than 100 days out from release at this point. One blog post/article/interview won't cut it at this point - it needs to penetrate the larger awareness of the player base and I just don't see it happening at this rate.

[DavoRaydn]

I seem to remember reading they plan to release the Keep a month or so before the release of the game. Think that's their target anyways.

So that would be plenty of time to learn how it works before you actually start a new game.

[Fast Jimmy]

I seem to remember reading they plan to release the Keep a month or so before the release of the game. Think that's their target anyways.
So that would be plenty of time to learn how it works before you actually start a new game.

Given that there are millions of likely customers who don't even know it exists, a month of light promotion is not going to be enough.

[Fidite Nemini]

Does the Keep even work between cross gen? Like... 360/PC -> PS4 because I totally am all about Playstation now after that first X1 E3 disaster.

 

 

Unless I remember it wrong, the Keep originated specifically because of the console generation switch, to enable people who played both DAO and DAII on the XBox360 to play DAI on the XBone with their own worldstates.

 

 

The following is speculation, but I guess the Keep will require a central ID which your various accounts (XBox Live, PS+, Origin) can tap into to load whatever worldstate you specified using the Keep into your game.

[Andraste_Reborn]

Given that there are millions of likely customers who don't even know it exists, a month of light promotion is not going to be enough.

 

The question, though, is how many of those customers care about setting their world state. People who care about save importing (or this equivalent) are more likely to have been paying attention to publicity in the month before release, I would think, even if they're not all the hard core among us who are haunting these forums three months before release.

[JasonPogo]

The question, though, is how many of those customers care about setting their world state. People who care about save importing (or this equivalent) are more likely to have been paying attention to publicity in the month before release, I would think, even if they're not all the hard core among us who are haunting these forums three months before release.

 

I bet anything when you buy the game and put it in something will pop up asking you if you have a Keep save ready with links to the website and whatnot.  So all those who know nothing about it will see it then and can either run to the website and set up a world state or just say F it and start with the default.

[Fast Jimmy]

I bet anything when you buy the game and put it in something will pop up asking you if you have a Keep save ready with links to the website and whatnot.  So all those who know nothing about it will see it then and can either run to the website and set up a world state or just say F it and start with the default.

And if you don't think a ton of those people aren't going to rage on the Internet that Bioware is destroying their previosu saved games and making them do all this extra work just to get what should have been available to them with their old save files, yada yada yada, then I find your expectations of people on the Internet cute.

[Schreckstoff]

Given that there are millions of likely customers who don't even know it exists, a month of light promotion is not going to be enough.

Everyone that knows enough about DA to be concerned should find out about the keep easy enough everyone else should be fine with the predetermined state.

Don't see a problem there.

[Fast Jimmy]

Everyone that knows enough about DA to be concerned should find out about the keep easy enough everyone else should be fine with the predetermined state.
Don't see a problem there.

That's a huge assumption. That is hugely false.

[Schreckstoff]

That's a huge assumption. That is hugely false.

That's a huge assumption. That is hugely false.

[Fidite Nemini]

 

That's a huge assumption. That is hugely false.

 

 

If you know it to be false, then conversely you must know the truth. Tell us.

 

 

 

To add my own (possibly hugely false) assumption:

When the game releases and upon people getting to the point where the game asks for imports, the game itself will point towards the Keep with brightly lit neon signs, music fanfare and a giant "CLICK ME" that directly links to the Keep.

 

I have no doubt that anyone who plays DAI at any given point will get to know about the Keep.

[Fast Jimmy]

That's a huge assumption. That is hugely false.

Given that I see people here who post as often as once a week, but still don't fully understand what The Keep is or how their imports work, I don't think my assumption is anywhere near false.

But let's go out on a limb and say 300,000 people (a number far greater than the number of active posters on the BSN and roughly the size of Bioware Twitter followers) can form what one would consider a coherent sentence about The Keep. If DA:I would expect to sell 3 million copies (a totally reasonable number for the development cycle and size of the project), that would make less than 10% of the people who buy the game aware that their old save games are worthless. Do you honestly think that 90% of players don't care about any previous game information carrying over?

And I'm not saying DA:I won't have a way to easily incorporate The Keep into prompts the player can follow, I'm saying that people will be surprised and a little p!ssed that they have to do it at all.

Think of all the posters you've seen over the past six months or so that have complains about losing their saves, or asking why. Bioware couldn't just allow 360, PS3 or PC players with old saves to just use those. Now multiply it by an exponential number and condense it into the span of a few days on Release Week.

That's what everyone (including Bioware) should be bracing themselves for.

EDIT: Also, the "I know you are but what am I" comeback stopped being witty in second grade, friend.

[AlanC9]

There will be an option to import. Anyone who selects it will be directed to the Keep. At what point will someone get confused?

If it's just that they'll be surprised, who cares when the surprise happens? Learn it earlier, learn it later, they're still learning the same fact.

[Fast Jimmy]

There will be an option to import. Anyone who selects it will be directed to the Keep. At what point will someone get confused?

When they ask "what the heck is this? Why isn't the game just reading my import file like every other Bioware game for the past half a decade? This is crap!"

Do people honestly think this isn't going to be the reaction of thousands and thousands of people all at once? Mistaking "lack of initiative to researching a game before purchase" for "not caring about the game enough to complain" is a pretty bad assumption to make.

[Schreckstoff]

Given that I see people here who post as often as once a week, but still don't fully understand what The Keep is or how their imports work, I don't think my assumption is anywhere near false.

But let's go out on a limb and say 300,000 people (a number far greater than the number of active posters on the BSN and roughly the size of Bioware Twitter followers) can form what one would consider a coherent sentence about The Keep. If DA:I would expect to sell 3 million copies (a totally reasonable number for the development cycle and size of the project), that would make less than 10% of the people who buy the game aware that their old save games are worthless. Do you honestly think that 90% of players don't care about any previous game information carrying over?

And I'm not saying DA:I won't have a way to easily incorporate The Keep into prompts the player can follow, I'm saying that people will be surprised and a little p!ssed that they have to do it at all.

Think of all the posters you've seen over the past six months or so that have complains about losing their saves, or asking why. Bioware couldn't just allow 360, PS3 or PC players with old saves to just use those. Now multiply it by an exponential number and condense it into the span of a few days on Release Week.

That's what everyone (including Bioware) should be bracing themselves for.

EDIT: Also, the "I know you are but what am I" comeback stopped being witty in second grade, friend.

'I know you are but what am I'? I'm not a US citizen nor am I an English native speaker so I have no idea what that was in second grade. Buddy (yes that's a south park reference).

It's not like people can't use Google anymore.

Most likely there will also be a prompt when starting DAI referring to the Keep.

[yullyuk]

im assuming the keep at least on consoles, will be linked to your EA/ bioware account, and possibly likewise on PC as well