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[PillarBiter]

The absolute first thing I do, the second they put me in control of the characters is open up the menu and check out the skill trees.

 

Screw story.

[Kage]

The absolute first thing I do, the second they put me in control of the characters is open up the menu and check out the skill trees.

 

Screw story.

 

But you wont see the specializations, which are the most misterious ones...

The moment you buy the game, you will play for a couple hours, then google the skills over and over until someone uploads them all!!

 

Meanwhile, I will be travelling until december

So I guess by the time I get to play the game, I will already know all skills at least.

[Abraham_uk]

You forgot:

 

Tactical mage: this mage controls the battlefield. Uses walls and mines from both elements, barriers from spirit and whatever else sabotaging he can use from his specialty. ( dorian, this is how I will build him, he will be my standard huntin' buddy, he and varric, who will also be saboteur. Hahaha, enemies will suffer and die slowly. Then dorian will raise their corpses and make them agonise some more! bwahahaha!)

 

[In an Angelina Jolie as Maleficent voice]. 

My my! What a delectable strategy!

[Adhin]

Someone on Reddit posted this video :

only reason I bring it up (was posted on Oct. 16th looks like) is the guy tried to stealth the dragon and the perceptive kicks in and the dragon sees through stealth. So that's a thing lol. Straight up DnD style dragon sees through stealth regardless of how skilled you are at it cause its a freakin' Dragon. I love it, honestly, but I'm sure theres gonna be a lot of rogue butthurt going on.

[ZerioctheTank]

Someone on Reddit posted this video : - only reason I bring it up (was posted on Oct. 16th looks like) is the guy tried to stealth the dragon and the perceptive kicks in and the dragon sees through stealth. So that's a thing lol. Straight up DnD style dragon sees through stealth regardless of how skilled you are at it cause its a freakin' Dragon. I love it, honestly, but I'm sure theres gonna be a lot of rogue butthurt going on.

Yea my poor little Cole is not going to like dragons but I'll have a plan B all ready for that monstrosity when I get to it.

I'm still butthurt about them being immune to taunt.

[Icy Magebane]

Yea my poor little Cole is not going to like dragons but I'll have a plan B all ready for that monstrosity when I get to it.

I'm still butthurt about them being immune to taunt.

It's also immune to all disabling effects... part of me dreads facing one of these beasts, but mostly I'm excited for the challenge.  Looks like they really made dragons the "apex predators" they were always meant to be.

[Hellion Rex]

It's also immune to all disabling effects... part of me dreads facing one of these beasts, but mostly I'm excited for the challenge.  Looks like they really made dragons the "apex predators" they were always meant to be.

I remember you saying that you would have Cole stealth to try and revive party members. That is not gonna be easy now.

 

 

Four mage party ftw!

[Skymaple]

It's also immune to all disabling effects... part of me dreads facing one of these beasts, but mostly I'm excited for the challenge.  Looks like they really made dragons the "apex predators" they were always meant to be.

 

I wonder if it still works as a means for dropping aggro in this case...

[Icy Magebane]

I remember you saying that you would have Cole stealth to try and revive party members. That is not gonna be easy now.

 

 

Four mage party ftw!

Ikr?  lol... my preliminary strategies are falling apart one by one... xD  Well, I'm sure I'll think of something.  The Steath upgrade lets the user pass through enemies, so maybe we'll be able to work out a way to incorporate that into the fight... I'm not going to use 4 mages respeced to take advantage of the dragon's elemental weakness though.  That wouldn't feel like a victory to me.  If I did use 4 mages, they would have to use their normal abilities... but that's just a personal preference really.

 

I wonder if it still works as a means for dropping aggro in this case...

It's hard to say... I mean, technically, the rouge should generate zero agrro if they have the passive that grants 100% threat reduction if they are flanking the target, but who knows... "Perceptive" might nullify that...

[Hellion Rex]

Ikr?  lol... my preliminary strategies are falling apart one by one... xD  Well, I'm sure I'll think of something.  The Steath upgrade lets the user pass through enemies, so maybe we'll be able to work out a way to incorporate that into the fight... I'm not going to use 4 mages respeced to take advantage of the dragon's elemental weakness though.  That wouldn't feel like a victory to me.  If I did use 4 mages, they would have to use their normal abilities... but that's just a personal preference really.

Well, if I had initially chosen to spec them all to a certain element when they first join the party, they'd all have a broad range of powers to tackle a dragon. It's gonna be interesting trying to tackle dragons in this game.

[Icy Magebane]

Well, if I had initially chosen to spec them all to a certain element when they first join the party, they'd all have a broad range of powers to tackle a dragon. It's gonna be interesting trying to tackle dragons in this game.

When in doubt, throw bees.

[Hellion Rex]

When in doubt, throw bees.

They'd be immune to the panicking though.

[Icy Magebane]

They'd be immune to the panicking though.

True, but bees do a lot of damage from what I've seen.  There might be something better out there though...

[Roninbarista]

True, but bees do a lot of damage from what I've seen.  There might be something better out there though...

Antivan fire? That dragon has to fall, and I promise to smite it...Somehow.

[Icy Magebane]

Antivan fire? That dragon has to fall, and I promise to smite it...Somehow.

All I can say for sure is that my Knight Enchanters will be staying at range for this fight... I'm sure I'll be getting some use out of Resurgence.  Hopefully Vivienne has it too.

[Roninbarista]

All I can say for sure is that my Knight Enchanters will be staying at range for this fight... I'm sure I'll be getting some use out of Resurgence.  Hopefully Vivienne has it too.

I think some ranged attacks will get some results. I'm still thinking Necromancer for my mage. For sure I'll need a second mage, archer, and tank.

[Icy Magebane]

I think some ranged attacks will get some results. I'm still thinking Necromancer for my mage. For sure I'll need a second mage, archer, and tank.

I'll probably be putting my faith in the Inquisitor (KE mage), Vivienne, Cassandra, and Cole (archer).  I don't plan to learn Ice attacks on any of those characters, so they should work pretty well for this fight at least.  Against a fire dragon, I may need to switch things up a bit... I might still keep Vivienne around for the double Resurgence though, just to be on the safe side.

[themageguy]

I think a tempest should be very versatile.
An archer tempest against a dragon should be great, even if it is perceptive.

Enemy vulnerable to fire?
use flask of fire.

enemy vulnerable to electricity?
use your lightning flask.

Sure it probably wont be as powerful as an inferno or storm spell, but i do like the versatility the tempest spec can bring.

[Icy Magebane]

I think a tempest should be very versatile.
An archer tempest against a dragon should be great, even if it is perceptive.

Enemy vulnerable to fire?
use flask of fire.

enemy vulnerable to electricity?
use your lightning flask.

Sure it probably wont be as powerful as an inferno or storm spell, but i do like the versatility the tempest spec can bring.

You really are sold on the Tempest, aren't you?    I might change my mind after I see more of it in action...

[Roninbarista]

I'll probably be putting my faith in the Inquisitor (KE mage), Vivienne, Cassandra, and Cole (archer).  I don't plan to learn Ice attacks on any of those characters, so they should work pretty well for this fight at least.  Against a fire dragon, I may need to switch things up a bit... I might still keep Vivienne around for the double Resurgence though, just to be on the safe side.

 

Not a bad idea. Focus will come in handy for sure. I'm tempted to learn the KE spec, cause I'm thinking the passives will enhance barrier/spirit tree powers.  

 

I do want a mage who knows some fire, storm, spirit, and a specialty maxed. Maybe a couple of ice spells. Not sure beyond winter's grasp and ice wall.

[Icy Magebane]

Not a bad idea. Focus will come in handy for sure. I'm tempted to learn the KE spec, cause I'm thinking the passives will enhance barrier/spirit tree powers.  

 

I do want a mage who knows some fire, storm, spirit, and a specialty maxed. Maybe a couple of ice spells. Not sure beyond winter's grasp and ice wall.

Well, Ice Wall and Ice Mine don't deal any damage, but they are good for crowd control so long as the enemy isn't immune.  It's possible that the upgrades might add damage to those two, but I'm not sure about that...  You could go with Blizzard, but that's at the end of the tree so you'll need to spend a lot of points to get there...  Apparently it's ranged and has a low mana cost per second, so that might be worth it for you.  It's something to consider, at least.

 

Oh yeah, there is a KE passive that causes Barrier to reflect 20% of damage taken... that could be very useful if combined with other Barrier upgrades...

[themageguy]

You really are sold on the Tempest, aren't you? I might change my mind after I see more of it in action...

Yes, yes i am

After seeing sera use flask of fire...just wow.

Tempest may not be my first character, but it will be my second definitely.

My first will be either a female dalish rift mage or a human KE or necromancer who wanted to be a spirit healer originally.

[Icy Magebane]

Yes, yes i am

After seeing sera use flask of fire...just wow.

Tempest may not be my first character, but it will be my second definitely.

My first will be either a female dalish rift mage or a human KE or necromancer who wanted to be a spirit healer originally.

If you're still interested in being a Spirit Healer, you could make one by choosing KE but only learning what's needed to reach Resurgence.  Then all you have to do is take most of the Spirit tree (at least up until Revive) and you're good to go.  Since you aren't required to use any of the KE actives, the only real difference is the name.  It would be more like a DA:O SH, however, since you wouldn't be restricted from using offensive magic at certain times...

[Roninbarista]

Well, Ice Wall and Ice Mine don't deal any damage, but they are good for crowd control so long as the enemy isn't immune.  It's possible that the upgrades might add damage to those two, but I'm not sure about that...  You could go with Blizzard, but that's at the end of the tree so you'll need to spend a lot of points to get there...  Apparently it's ranged and has a low mana cost per second, so that might be worth it for you.  It's something to consider, at least.

 

Oh yeah, there is a KE passive that causes Barrier to reflect 20% of damage taken... that could be very useful if combined with other Barrier upgrades...

 

My goal for the winter spells is to immobilize/slow/divide foes the tank and rogue can pick off. Had not thought of the blizzard spell.  Will have to look at that tree again. You're correct, you have to go a long ways for that spell. I kinda like the idea of being an eclectic mage, and having several elemental spells at my disposal.

 

I like the storm tree the most, so I know I'll place several points in there as well as the spirit tree. Inferno comes third. Don't need them all, but I few will do. Finally, maybe then the winter tree. I will attempt to max out the specialization.

 

Seeing how we only get eight slots for active abilities and there's the Mark of the Rift ability (curious if that gets a tree), I'll be thinking this over. 

 

Since KE compliments the Spirt tree, I wonder if the other specializations compliment the other trees.  

[themageguy]

If you're still interested in being a Spirit Healer, you could make one by choosing KE but only learning what's needed to reach Resurgence. Then all you have to do is take most of the Spirit tree (at least up until Revive) and you're good to go. Since you aren't required to use any of the KE actives, the only real difference is the name. It would be more like a DA:O SH, however, since you wouldn't be restricted from using offensive magic at certain times...

Yeah wanting to be a spirit healer was a little head cannon, but definitely as you point out, the knight enchanter and spirit tree satisfies having skills a spirit healer would have.

If necromancer has what im after, his spirit medium talents will be applied to that instead of KE.