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[ElementalFury106]

It's an assumption based on re-using the icons that these are Templar passives. The names scream mage and nature based, not anti-magical warriors anyway.

 

There is also a Templar MP character. If those are Templar passives, does it mean that the Templar has the Keeper-like passive?

 

It would be very weird to use the same icon and color palettes yet portray different abilities/effects. You may be right, but I'm just saying it's strange. Especially since the Rift Mage passives/actives shown in the multiplayer match the single player, as does Templar stuff.

[Hellion Rex]

I just realized that Fire Mine does a grand total of 3200% Weapon Damage when upgraded, adding all of the DoT.

 

*expletive*

[Mightylink]

Will anyone ever show the necromancer skills before release, thats the biggest thing holding me back from playing a mage or not.

[Spider Pig]

I'm going to be making a Qunari Knight Enchanter delving into lightning and fire trees.

 

I'm just wondering if burns react to Eldritch detonators.

[ElementalFury106]

Get ready for dat revised Mage build y'all!

 

Christoph Trevelyan 

 

Storm

-Energy Barrage

-Chain Lightning

-Shock 

-Static Cage

-Lightning Cage (Static Cage upgrade)

-Stormbringer passive

-Conductive Current passive

-Static Charge passive

-Gathering Storm passive

 

Total: 9

 

Winter

-Winter's Grasp

-Mana Surge passive

 

Total: 2

 

Spirit

-Barrier

-Guardian Spirit passive

-Peaceful Aura passive

-Dispel

 

Total: 4

 

Knight Enchanter

-Spirit Blade

-Defending Blade (spirit blade upgrade)

-Fade Cloak

-Decloaking Blast (fade cloak upgrade)

-Veiled Riposte passive

-Resurgence Focus Ability

-Unknown passive

-Unknown passive

-Unknown passive

 

Total: 9

 

Overall Total: 24

 

Hotkey Build

Spirit Blade, Energy Barrage, Fade Cloak, Barrier, Static Cage, Winter's Grasp, Dispel, Resurgence

 

Note: I will be swapping between Dispel with Shock and Resurgence with Inquisitor-based focus abilities when I feel appropriate.

 

24 sounds about right for end-game level. Obviously since the unknown passives in Knight Enchanter could turn out to not be so great, I might not invest in them. I don't really enjoy the final active in the tree "Disruption Field." Very small radius, and its stasis upgrade wears off as soon as you hit the target. Kind of a bummer.

 

Mind you this is only for my Inquisitor. I won't be disregarding many cool abilities from Inferno, Winter, or Spirit because I'm making our companions specialize in them. 

 

EDIT: Reread Winter's Chill and turns out it doesn't freeze multiple targets...only chills them, so I won't be investing in that!

[inquisitioned]

I just realized that Fire Mine does a grand total of 3200% Weapon Damage when upgraded, adding all of the DoT.

 

*expletive*

3600 with pyromancer, it's glorious.

It'll probably be fire + lightning for me, but it's really hard to say more without knowing what the other 2 specializations have.

[MazPA]

They're not.
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They're mages, of course they are.

[ZerioctheTank]

They're not.

 

Also, Disruption Field, is too small radius-wise, just 3 meters, to be like the haste spell we saw. It was even affecting the Dragon in that video, and it specifically says that "Enemeis larger than the area are immune".

 

It's basically something that slows movement and attack speed, which is pretty powerful on its own.

Lol I was trying to troll since all non warriors are marshmallows in my eyes. Now that I'm finally off work I can sit down and anayzle all these skills.

[Mornmagor]

They're mages, of course they are.

 

As my friend Tyrion would say, you haven't been paying attention

 

Anyway, fun fact, they have at least one Force Mage spell in them.

 

Knight Enchanters.

 

Wielding a sword like the Jedi.

 

With Force spells.

 

Darth Vader inc.

[Yggdrasil]

One of the gameplay videos showed the Inquisitor at level 24 in the Emprise de Lion area, so I'm hoping that means we can level at least a little farther.  I'd really like to basically max out Storm, Spirit and Necromancer, replacing some of the elemental abilities in my eight hotkey with necromancer one once I progress in that tree.

[Alexious]

Anything about multiplayer trees?

[Fashion Mage]

Are there staves that deal spirit damage?

[azarhal]

Are there staves that deal spirit damage?

 

I'm pretty sure I saw one somewhere in one of the bazillions of videos that we have.

 

Damage types are physical, fire, ice, electric and spirit.

[DMaster2]

I'm pretty sure I saw one somewhere in one of the bazillions of videos that we have.

 

Damage types are physical, fire, ice, electric and spirit.

No nature damage then?

[Statare]

No nature damage then?

 

There was nature damage from Stonefist once upon a time, but I am not sure since I have not seen Stonefist for ages. Might have become physical.

[Thibax]

Why Bioware is killing nature damage?

 

DAO is great.

DA2 just staves and Merrill's spells.

DAI ????

[akabane_k]

I just realized that Fire Mine does a grand total of 3200% Weapon Damage when upgraded, adding all of the DoT.

 

*expletive*

 

3600% if you get pyromancer

[ClassyUnicorn]

3600% if you get pyromancer

 

and then throw on Chaotic Focus

[Hellion Rex]

and then throw on Chaotic Focus

Nah, no Chaotic Focus. I can't trade Barrier for that.

[Adhin]

Pretty sure rogue poison stuff is also nature, always has been anyway. No direct spells though on mage at base that use it. I'd imagine most of necromancer is physical or spirit, but I wouldn't be shocked if it had some nature involved, damage wise. I don't think they got rid of nature, we just haven't seen full list of stuff, and most footage for the past few weeks have all been super lowbe stuff. Which I mean if nature dmg related spells aren't part of that, not like you'd see it. But again, we've seen the poison doing the green nature dmg... it's there.

 

-edit-

Oh and I'm currently thinking for my main char (Qunari/Warrior/Reaver), 9 in 2H, 8-9 in Vanguard and 11 in Reaver. That's just shy 30, and may have to shuffle stuff later on. Really want the stamina bit from 2H but I only want Block and Attack as my active, maybe pummel strike... maybe.

 

Only abilities I'm sticking to, atm, are Block n Attack, War Cry, Charging Bull, and all skills in Reaver (unless I dislike the new one and the focus). Gives me 1 extra floating slot for something else. Definitely going to ignore the right side of the 2H for later in the game.

[themageguy]

One of the gameplay videos showed the Inquisitor at level 24 in the Emprise de Lion area, so I'm hoping that means we can level at least a little farther. I'd really like to basically max out Storm, Spirit and Necromancer, replacing some of the elemental abilities in my eight hotkey with necromancer one once I progress in that tree.

level 24? Oooh were there any spec abilities? I must find that video!

[Hellion Rex]

level 24? Oooh were there any spec abilities? I must find that video!

They used an alpha build so spec abilities were all over the place. That said, we did see Solas use Resurgence.

 

[Avaflame]

Thanks to DA FAN's glorious video, I decided to burn through some of the 13 day agonising wait by plotting some rough builds for my Inquisitor and companions for my first playthrough. It didn't work so well since I still have 12.5 days, but moving on...

 

I arbitrarily decided on 20 points, ignoring racial bonuses, extra points we'll surely earn in the game as well as hearing a soft 30 level cap (I've seen a lv 29 Inq. at least), so it's actually going to be much different, just a general direction (with KE being the only specialisation I really know much about). I'm also assuming that focus collects without needing the ability hotkeyed, so I chose not to hotkey (denoted by *) them with the intention of switching them in before battles I expected to use them.

Inquisitor

Spoiler

Spirit

*Barrier

Guardian Spirit

Peaceful Aura

 

Storm

*Energy Barrage

 

Inferno

*Flash Fire

Flash Point

Pyromancer

*Fire Mine

-Fire Mine upgrade

 

Winter

*Winter's Grasp

*Fade Step

- Fade Step upgrade

Mana Surge

Winter Stillness

 

Knight Enchanter

*Spirit Blade

- Spirit Blade upgrade

*Fade Cloak

- Fade Cloak upgrade

Resurgence

1 x Miscellaneous

 

Dorian

Spoiler

 

Spirit

*Barrier

Peaceful Aura

Guardian Spirit

*Dispel

- Dispel upgrade

Mind Blast

Rejuvenating Barrier

Strength of Spirits

 

Storm

*Chain Lightning

- Chain Lightning upgrade

*Energy Barrage

*Lightning Bolt

- Lightning Bolt upgrade

Conductive Current

Static Charge

*Static Cage

- Static Cage upgrade

 

Necromcancer

3 x Miscellaneous

 

Solas

Spoiler

 

Spirit

*Barrier

Peaceful Aura

Guardian Spirit

*Dispel

- Dispel upgrade

Mind Blast

Strength of Spirits

 

Storm

*Energy Barrage

 

Inferno

*Immolate

- Immolate upgrade

Flashpoint

Clean Burn

*Fire Wall

Pyromancer

*Fire Mine

- Fire Mine upgrade

 

Rift Mage

4 x Miscellaneous

 

Vivienne

Spoiler

 

Spirit

*Barrier

Guardian Spirit

Peaceful Aura

*Dispel

 

Winter

*Winter's Grasp

- Winter's Grasp upgrade

*Fade Step

Frost Mastery

Winter Stillness

*Ice Mine

- Ice Mine upgrade

*Ice Wall

Ice Armor

*Blizzard

- Blizzard upgrade

 

Knight Enchanter

Spirit Blade

*Fade Cloak

- Fade Cloak upgrade

Resurgence

1x Miscellaneous

 

Varric

Spoiler

 

Archery

*Long Shot

- Long Shot upgrade

First Blood

*Explosive Shot

- Explosive Shot upgrade

Pincushion

*Full Draw

- Full Draw upgrade

 

Sabotage

*Caltrops

Looked Like It Hurt

Cheap Shot

*Throwing Blades

- Throwing Blades upgrade

 

Subterfuge

*Stealth

Easy To Miss

Evasion

 

Artificer

4 x Miscellaneous

 

Sera

Spoiler

 

Archery

*Long Shot

- Long Shot upgrade

First Blood

Death From Above

*Leaping Shot

- Leaping Shot upgrade

Strafing Shots

*Full Draw

- Full Draw upgrade

 

Sabotage

*Poisoned Weapons

- Poisoned Weapons upgrade

Fighting Dirty

 

Subterfuge

*Stealth

Easy To Miss

Evasion

*Evade

- Evade upgrade

*Shadow Strike

 

Tempest

2 x Miscellaneous

 

Cole

Spoiler

 

Double Daggers

*Flank Attack

- Flank Attack upgrade

*Twin Fangs

- Twin Fangs upgrade

Bloodied Prey

Dance of Death

Unforgiving Chain

Sneak Attack

*Spinning Blades

- Spinning Blades upgrade

*Deathblow

- Deathblow upgrade

 

Subterfuge

*Stealth

Easy To Miss

*Knockout Powder

 

Assassin

5x Miscellaneous

 

Cassandra

Spoiler

 

Weapon & Shield

Shield Wall

*Payback Strike

-Payback Strike upgrade

Bear Mauls The Wolves

Turn The Bolt

*Shield Bash

- Shield Bash upgrade

*Lunge & Slash

- Lunge & Slash upgrade

Turn The Blade

 

Battlemaster

*Grappling Chain

- Grappling Chain upgrade

 

Vanguard

*Challenge

*War Cry

Untouchable Defense

Trust The Steel

It'll Cost You

Cutting Words

*Unbowed

- Unbowed upgrade

 

Iron Bull

Spoiler

 

Two Handed

*Block & Slash

- Block & Slash upgrade

*Mighty Blow

Shield Breaker

*Whirlwind

 

Battlemaster

Grappling Chain

Hamstring

Deep Reserves

*War Horn

- War Horn upgrade

 

Vanguard

*War Cry

- War Cry upgrade

Untouchable Defence

*Charging Bull

- Charging Bull upgrade

Trust The Steel

It'll Cost You

Cutting Words

*Unbowed

-Unbowed upgrade

 

Blackwall

Spoiler

 

Weapon & Shield 

*Shield Wall

*Payback Strike

-Payback Strike upgrade

Bear Mauls The Wolves

*Shield Bash

- Shield Bash upgrade

*Lunge & Slash

- Lunge & Slash upgrade

Turn The Blade

 

Battlemaster

*Grappling Chain

- Grappling Chain upgrade

Crippling Blows

Coup de Grace

*Horn of Valor

- Horn of Valor upgrade

 

Vanguard

*Challenge

 

Champion

4 x Miscellaneous

[Hellion Rex]

Great builds! But no Templar or Reaver for Cass and Bull?

[andar91]

I realize it's a-ways off still, but the way the MP skill trees work has me thinking some serious thoughts about how skills could work in DA4.

 

Imagine if the PC was the only character that had access to everything (just like they do now).

 

in contrast, what if the companions had personalized trees like in MP. So, for instance, Vivienne could be more geared towards aggressive/damaging magic. So, for actives only, she would have the following available:

 

Storm: Chain Lightning, Energy Barrage

Inferno: Immolate, Wall of FIre, Fire Mine

Winter: Fade Step, Winter's Grasp

Spirit: Barrier, Mind Blast, Dispel,

KE: Spirit Blade, The-Snail-One

 

That said, they wouldn't be grouped like that. Instead, she could have 3 trees: Unbowed Will (Spirit spells plus passives related to defense and survival), Enchanter's Wrath (Offensive tree with Storm, Inferno, and Winter spells), and maybe another like KE with some maybe personal ones mixed ins a la DA2?

 

Solas, in contrast, could have a very different flavor of magic - I think of it as more spirit-based and more defensive in general (though not without offense). So he could have Dreamwalker (the whole Spirit tree, essentially), Calm Before the Storm (Winter's Grasp, Fade Step, Chain Lighting, Blizzard, Lightning Bolt, Static Cage), and Fade Expertise (Some nice mana-based passives plus Rift Mage stuff).

 

It's obviously a rough idea, but I really like the idea. And this would be for all classes, at least in my mind. The only issue is that it would probably require weapon restrictions again for companions, which is the biggest downside. But still, I really find it a neat idea because I think it would be far more interesting for party builds and reflect different proclivities for companions. The key is that they would all still have to have different viable builds, just like they said about the Keeper - there's a focus, sure, but there are different ways of playing the Keeper even so. Thus it would be with Vivienne and Solas and so on and so forth.

 

I dunno, I'm interested in this.