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[Adhin]

@Eccentrick79 : Yeah sounds like it'll be pretty fun. With out any FF on Spirit Blade self-healing Barrier in a Bilzzards gonna be amaaazing.

[Duelist]

Well, after all the gushing and fawning over those Chantry-kowtowing Knight Enchanters, its time for Necromancers to show who is boss.

So you're going to point them in the Assassins direction lol?

[mikeymoonshine]

LOL YES. How'd you know?

 

It really pissed me off, usually gamespot has a disclaimer in the beginning saying "the following review contains spoilers". Not this time.

 

Whatever. I don't want to discuss it. I don't even know if we're refering to the same spoiler, because I x'ed out the window ASAP and began swearing up a storm. 

 

Oh it's the same spoiler, I saw it ages ago (a lot of people did).   If you go to the reviews mega thread most (if not all) of the spoilery ones are marked. 

[KC_Prototype]

Where's the rift mage's tree? 

[ElementalFury106]

Oh it's the same spoiler, I saw it ages ago (a lot of people did).   If you go to the reviews mega thread most (if not all) of the spoilery ones are marked. 

 

Oh yeah? I've been really good at avoiding any spoilers up until this f**king moment. Where was it exposed previously, the art book?

 

I'm really sorry if it's off topic or if I'm upsetting some people. But this **** is making me sick to my stomach. I can't believe they would just throw a spoiler around like that.

[The Night Haunter]

Oh yeah? I've been really good at avoiding any spoilers up until this f**king moment. Where was it exposed previously, the art book?

 

I'm really sorry if it's off topic or if I'm upsetting some people. But this **** is makes me sick to my stomach. I can't believe they would just throw a spoiler around like that.

Achievements thread.

[ElementalFury106]

Achievements thread.

 

Woah woah, I don't think we're talking about the same spoiler then. I was exposed to a certain image that was VERY spoilery, not an achievement based thing. Let's cease here before something slips.

[Hellion Rex]

EF. Breathe, dude. It's gonna be alright.

[ElementalFury106]

EF. Breathe, dude. It's gonna be alright.

 

I am so humbled by all of your support!

 

I was literally about to go to bed too..now I'm wide awake and enraged lol. Really living up to the "fury" in my username right now.

[spnccarman]

Woah woah, I don't think we're talking about the same spoiler then. I was exposed to a certain image that was VERY spoilery, not an achievement based thing. Let's cease here before something slips.

they're saying what was spoiled for you was actually spoiled 2 weeks ago.

[ElementalFury106]

they're saying what was spoiled for you was actually spoiled 2 weeks ago.

 

Ah, well regardless, this sucks. And I imagine many more will be spoiled to this in the coming days.

 

May the Maker shield all of you from spoilers until we are comfortable enough to read them.

[Duelist]

Ah, well regardless, this sucks. And I imagine many more will be spoiled to this in the coming days.

May the Maker shield all of you from spoilers until we are comfortable enough to read them.

Righteous are those who stand before the spoilers and do not falter.

[(Disgusted noise.)]

Of course two of the three specs we know nothing about are the ones I'm actually interested in for my first play. Come on, Tempest and Assassin. Quit leaving me out in the cold.

[Yuoaman]

Are there any images floating around of the Champion or Reaver specializations? I haven't seen anything of them as of yet.

[mikeymoonshine]

Are there any images floating around of the Champion or Reaver specializations? I haven't seen anything of them as of yet.

 

There is some Reaver stuff here http://imgur.com/a/7CBLr

 

Nothing yet for the champion though. 

 

Also this shot of MP Reaver skills shows Devour.

 

http://images.euroga...4/Bert/dai2.JPG

[Takitae]

Are there any images floating around of the Champion or Reaver specializations? I haven't seen anything of them as of yet.

Here are some for Reaver. I don't think there are any out for Champion yet, or I just haven't seen them.
http://imgur.com/a/7CBLr

 

Edit: Got ninja'd

[Yuoaman]

Much obliged to both of you.

[andy6915]

@andy : I get what your saying and if your super reliant on the barrier for survival I definitely would avoid the passive. It's not a requirement for any other skill, it's literally a last bit. But, lemmy throw this idea at you in relation to the KE.

 

Anytime you do damage with Spirit Blade you leech 30% of your damage delt as barriers. That passive consumes 50% of your 'current' barriers. So say your at 80% Barrier at the time of using Spirit Blade, it halves it to 40%, and you to 40% of your current shields and you do damage. Lets say you normally would do 2000 dmg, 40% more dmg ups you to 2800. 30% of that's +840 shields.

 

Hard to say how all that matchs up, what I saw of Barriers going up from Spirit Blade seemed to be around 20-25% of the barrier thing but that could easily of been due to not maximizing it. Maybe that passive actually does add straight damage, maybe it doesn't... not sure yet. Also we've seen 5k dmg before with spirit blade which is a pretty solid amount of barriers back.

 

Point is, at some point you'd start juggling low shields with a minor dmg bonus to Spirit Blade. Not saying that's Ideal, but if you weren't the main tank and your not taking the bulk of the dmg... it could potentially be a hell of a dmg boost to Barrier. Also vs Guard you'd do an absurd amount of dmg and leech back a balls ton of barrier in the process after part of its consumed from that passive.

 

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@andy again : "It's a passive, so getting it means you're using it nonstop." <--- your semanticsing your self into an argument. It's a passive, your right, BUYING it with a SKILL POINT means your USING IT. So don't BUY it so your not USING it. They're the same thing. LIke any skill, if it doesn't fit what you want, don't use it. And as he said (and I have said) the passive is specifically out of the way. It doesn't chain to anything, you have to go out of your way to specifically buy that one passive to use it so... don't buy it man, or decide to use your barrier for damage.

 

That only works if you're in the front ranks and always have an enemy nearby to quickly hit with the spirit blade to get barriers back. Honestly, this feels like it would be more useful for someone who's merely dabbling in fire instead of focusing on it. I mean, if you only have a single fire spell and the rest are ice or shock, then the single fire spell you have could be used when you need massive damage fast. But if you're focusing on fire so that literally half your assigned powers are fire based, then every single offensive spell you have that isn't spirit blade is going to leave you vulnerable.

[PillarBiter]

So... much... new... info!

 

I can't wait to get home to redo all of my builds Ah, shoulda known this would happen.

 

The only thing I'm now not sure of is what I'm going to do with my quizzy. Am I going to make him reaver-heavy (all abilities)? Or am I going to use more general abilities and only use devour? The problem I have with the reaver is that ring of pain is almost a must-have, and I don't like it. It costs too much stamina, as I see it, which leaves you with next to nothing to attack with, other than basic attacks... Also, a pure reaver build may let you get huge damage (I won't be denying that! ) But with little tactical options (no knockdown, no detonators...). 

I'm thinking either: block and slash (exchangeable for combat roll), tremor, whirlwind, chain, war horn, war cry, bull charge and devour

OR: Block and slash, whirlwind, war cry, bull charge, devour, ring of pain, dragon rage, rampage

 

I'm probably going to do the one build early game, and switch to the next build late game. It'll depend on what I like and use a lot. If I find my fancy. Thing just is, I'm really liking my second build, I just wonder how viable it is.

 

 

PS: Also, I just thought of something... Bull charge (gore and trample), and then activate torrent of pain. Would that eliminate the continuous stamina cost? (probably not, but it would be sick if it did )

[Adhin]

@Andy : lol man I forgot it only effected fire spells. That makes me want it even more as some kinda KE Pyro. I mean most mages can't easily regenerate their barriers, and a KE from what I saw, was able to get 20-25% of there barrier back with each Spirit Blade attack. Honestly that kinda makes it better then what I was mistakening it as. You can use any spell you want, other then fire and not have your Barrier altered much. But Immolate, or Fire Mine could be used with almost perfect barrier mid-fight and quickly have your Barriers back to full wit a few spirit blade swipes.

 

But yeah I get what your saying, I just only half-agree with you. Like I said earlier I think it depends entirely on what your focus is. a Warrior, especially a Shield based one, can keep enemies on them and tank it rather effectively as is. You can make your KE more of a rogue, hell theres even a passive in the spirit side that'll reduce all your threat generation by 50%.

 

Either way not what I'm doing for my first KE, doing more a melee druidish like setup. But I do think there is a lot of potential there with a Pyro-KE, especially if you play them like a rogue with peaceful aura. Quick replenish your barrier to consume it for mass explosions or extremely intense firewalls. You may not think it would work to well but that's also kinda the Reaver ordeal. Only they're not harming there temp HP - they're harming there actual health and have an ability to get it back.

 

Either way if the passive doesn't work for a build, it doesn't work. That by no means makes the passive useless or of limited use, it just means it's not right for what your currently thinking of.

[andy6915]

@Andy : lol man I forgot it only effected fire spells. That makes me want it even more as some kinda KE Pyro. I mean most mages can't easily regenerate their barriers, and a KE from what I saw, was able to get 20-25% of there barrier back with each Spirit Blade attack. Honestly that kinda makes it better then what I was mistakening it as. You can use any spell you want, other then fire and not have your Barrier altered much. But Immolate, or Fire Mine could be used with almost perfect barrier mid-fight and quickly have your Barriers back to full wit a few spirit blade swipes.

 

But yeah I get what your saying, I just only half-agree with you. Like I said earlier I think it depends entirely on what your focus is. a Warrior, especially a Shield based one, can keep enemies on them and tank it rather effectively as is. You can make your KE more of a rogue, hell theres even a passive in the spirit side that'll reduce all your threat generation by 50%.

 

Either way not what I'm doing for my first KE, doing more a melee druidish like setup. But I do think there is a lot of potential there with a Pyro-KE, especially if you play them like a rogue with peaceful aura. Quick replenish your barrier to consume it for mass explosions or extremely intense firewalls. You may not think it would work to well but that's also kinda the Reaver ordeal. Only they're not harming there temp HP - they're harming there actual health and have an ability to get it back.

 

Either way if the passive doesn't work for a build, it doesn't work. That by no means makes the passive useless or of limited use, it just means it's not right for what your currently thinking of.

 

I guess a pyro build with that passive would be a textbook example of "high risk and high reward" (or to use Jacob's words "heavy risk, but the PRIZE"). I'll probably never pick it, I plan to be a barrier specialist that has that thing on at all times and I plan to pick every single ability and passive mages have that improve barrier in any way. And I know about that spirit ability, and I fully intend to get it. Not getting much attention from enemies is a good thing for a mage. In short, I intend to make myself the hardest to kill mage I can possibly pull off and making my barriers as strong as possible at all times leads into that.

 

And I actually like reaver, but not its self damaging parts. I tend to not use those. I like reaver for its other aspects, higher damage and attack speed mixed with the ability to heal in emergencies. Thankfully, reaver in DAI still seems to let me use it for that instead of self harming abilities.

[themageguy]

Damn looking more thoroughly at the templar skills, i really like the look of them. Alot of buffing it would seem.

If i role a warrior at some point , templar it is. Vivienne and i will be unstoppable.

Though the question is... What other skills would i use?

hmmmm

[atamajakki]

Has Assassin been posted anywhere yet? Really hoping my little Dwarf Archer has some fun tricks to play with.

[Adhin]

@Andy : Yeah, actually Ring of Pain has no negative impact on the user this time so you have a solid base AoE thing going on all the time. Devours useless with out low HP though, your auto attack does the same damage with no stamina cost. But like you say, the passives are amazing for damage output. I'm a little sad Fervor isn't attack speed anymore, however 30% damage boost helps 'everything' not just your auto attack which is nice. I mean, 30% attack speed wont have an effect on any damage skills you know? But 30% dmg? Oh that will, that'll effect all kinds of fun stuff.

 

Pretty nice Dragon-Rage is at the tail end so you can ignore it. Curious what that 4th passive is, I guess it could be a speed thing. It's all skull like so I'd imagine it's killing a target related but who knows. Hell it might even be something like necros when they get knocked out. Maybe it's something that triggers on a fatal blow? That'd be pretty awesome, like a 5 second rage where you can't die or heal prior to being knocked out or something. Or some kinda life ward or... I dunno. All I know for sure is its a passive skill...

 

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Sadly not yet Atamajakki, but we know it's still the pure damage focused tree.

[andy6915]

@Andy : Yeah, actually Ring of Pain has no negative impact on the user this time so you have a solid base AoE thing going on all the time. Devours useless with out low HP though, your auto attack does the same damage with no stamina cost. But like you say, the passives are amazing for damage output. I'm a little sad Fervor isn't attack speed anymore, however 30% damage boost helps 'everything' not just your auto attack which is nice. I mean, 30% attack speed wont have an effect on any damage skills you know? But 30% dmg? Oh that will, that'll effect all kinds of fun stuff.

 

What? Reavers still get attack speed boosts in DAI. It's not based on getting a kill anymore and fervor isn't how the speed boost activates anymore, but reaver still gives a speed boost. The real sucky part is how it's a focus ability...