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[Varus Praetor]

100 and it only increase through gear, but unlike previous games mana/stamina regen is a lot more easy to get. 

 

A KE could get between 35% and 135% regen rate via Winter Stillness, Combat Clarity and Rejuvenating Barrier. Rift Mage and Necro get flat return via passive under certain conditions too.

 

Same goes for Warrior and Rogue, they have regen passives too.

 

 

Oh I'm not worried about overall mana supply.  I'm more worried about short windows of opportunity to create self combos.  For example, Winter's Grasp costs 65 mana and has a 4 second freeze.  Immolate is the cheapest ability I see that combo's with it and is 35 mana.  That's your entire pool unless you have + mana gear.  Even if your regen is crazy high, if you want to try and create self-combos you'll only be able to do that if you start at max or close to max mana.

 

I really think that the Eldritch Detonator combo is only going to be feasible on a regular basis with another mage in the party.  Mana regen is fast, but not that fast.

[Astrolabe]

You can proc eldritch detonator on any incapacitation...so it would work if you used immolate on a mob stunned by a warrior for example...or rogue's sleep. 

[themageguy]

They look good. I agree with getting Energy Barrage. It's going to be really useful as a way to do damage to everyone w/o having to dip into every single tree.

Thankyou.
I am a big fan of energy bombardment.

[Adhin]

@efd731 : Ehh not... really. You can kill the minion by using the skill again so... it's not really an issue. Also the 'minion' doesn't keep you in combat anyway if there are no enemies. So... no, no that's not an issue.

[Duelist]

Does anyone have any ideas as to what the respective detonations do exactly?

[azarhal]

 

I really think that the Eldritch Detonator combo is only going to be feasible on a regular basis with another mage in the party.  Mana regen is fast, but not that fast.

 

There is Eldritch (Mage/Templar), Precision (Rogue) and Impact (Warrior) Detonators.  All detonators work against incapacitated enemies (aka stunned, paralyzed, frozen, etc). We don't really know what they do though.

[Adhin]

Just occurred to me I don't think I have a detonator on my main first playthrough. That is, unless, devour or Dragon-Rage count and just lack the icon top star. I've noticed plenty of specialization icons lack the detonator mark letting you know its one while stating it in the text. Icons for the descriptions in a lot of the stuff have been cut off before you can even see if it's a detonator so that's a bummer.

 

Was thinking of using Combat Roll just due to the ability to zip outa being sundered or something, but maybe I'll take something else. Then again, 3 other characters in the party. I don't really 'need' a detonator, Sera or Cassandra could detonate combos Vivienne sets up.

[Astrolabe]

I really like how the accessories in DA:I really open the versatility of your abilities/character. It's not just a stat slot anymore. Although I guess it can be. Increasing taunt duration or something like that is really useful. 

[efd731]

@efd731 : Ehh not... really. You can kill the minion by using the skill again so... it's not really an issue. Also the 'minion' doesn't keep you in combat anyway if there are no enemies. So... no, no that's not an issue.

then i must have missed something, but on the last wikiguides stream he had a minion and it prevented him from exiting combat. there were no enemies and as soon as its "health" ran out it dissapeared and the "combat phase" ended.

[lastpawn]

Does anyone have any ideas as to what the respective detonations do exactly?

 

Nope. I'm curious about it, however. Playing around detonations was a lot of fun in ME3, though it arguably made the game too easy.

 

Still, I love the idea.

[efd731]

then i must have missed something, but on the last wikiguides stream he had a minion and it prevented him from exiting combat. there were no enemies and as soon as its "health" ran out it dissapeared and the "combat phase" ended.

but if using the skill again ends the spells duration early, than you're correct, no real drawbacks. except having to make a new minion for yourself later

[Adhin]

Yeah you can end it ahead of time, we've seen that a few times now.

[Hellion Rex]

One thing I have noticed with Spirit Mark. As long as you have it active with a minion summoned, there is a bug (at least on PC) that doesn't allow you to click on anything in the world until the minion disappears. Also, when you are fighting a rift, and you make a minion out of the demon, the next wave will not start until the minion is dead.

 

So you gotta make sure you turn it off.

[Adhin]

Now that sounds like a shitty bug they hopefully fix Eluvianus. Least we can unsummon it whenever we want.

[Hellion Rex]

Now that sounds like a shitty bug they hopefully fix Eluvianus. Least we can unsummon it whenever we want.

Yeah, it just sucks that we have to turn it off everytime we want to continue a Rift sealing or wanna loot something.

[Black Casper]

One thing I have noticed with Spirit Mark. As long as you have it active with a minion summoned, there is a bug (at least on PC) that doesn't allow you to click on anything in the world until the minion disappears. Also, when you are fighting a rift, and you make a minion out of the demon, the next wave will not start until the minion is dead.

 

So you gotta make sure you turn it off.

 

Could be useful for rifts, give yourself some time to regroup before a pride demon jumps out on Nightmare.

[Hellion Rex]

Could be useful for rifts, give yourself some time to regroup before a pride demon jumps out on Nightmare.

But also depriving you of the minion that would normally help you fight it.

 

That said, Pride demon minion, yes please!

[Black Casper]

But also depriving you of the minion that would normally help you fight it.

 

That said, Pride demon minion, yes please!

 

Far from ideal, but that would be the only silver lining. And pride demon minions would be great.

[GipsyDangeresque]

All of these people worried about having a detonator.

 

Meanwhile Knight-Enchanters are over here chilling with their cheap, spammable ghost sword that's a detonator on top of everything else.

[Hellion Rex]

All of these people worried about having a detonator.

 

Meanwhile Knight-Enchanters are over here chilling with their cheap, spammable ghost sword that's a detonator on top of everything else.

I think I'm quite fine with my 55 Meteor Fire Storm, thank you very much.

[azarhal]

I think I'm quite fine with my 55 Meteor Fire Storm, thank you very much.

 

I think you are overcompensating there.

[ZerioctheTank]

All of these people worried about having a detonator.

Meanwhile Knight-Enchanters are over here chilling with their cheap, spammable ghost sword that's a detonator on top of everything else.

Shield bash is enough for me thank you :-)

[azarhal]

Shield bash is enough for me thank you :-)

 

psst, you also have Lunge and Slash...

[Hellion Rex]

psst, you also have Lunge and Slash the most boring S&B skill...

[Adhin]

Yeah issue I have is all the 2H detonators I don't like. And the non-style related trees on warriors have no detonators. But it doesn't matter, it's not a lone character. I got 3 others that can detonate. Still wish Devour was a detonator though, then again, it might be still... the image we have is cut off, but then the icon lacks the star, but then so does spirit blade and it's a detonator so... Meh. Damn inconsistencies.