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#2251
Hellion Rex

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…Ok.

 

For what is worth, and to whomever it might interest: I came in so “green” & now find myself +- knowing what to expect, a little more knowledgeable (probably never as knowledgeable as most of you guys). And it’s thanks to this thread. Your posts.  Our discussions. Exchanging thoughts, theories & impressions. All of that. And it’s appreciated. I got into this, even if at times I’d feel, like maybe I realize I don’t belong? Which is ok. It’d been fun, so... But if it’s come to, y’know… what I’m being politely let known it has come to. I’ll move on. No harsh feelings at all. I'll carry with me nothing but the good things, and sincerely hope to have left you with something that’s positive, too.

 

Y’all take care, and be well! (and lots of fun to us all come November 18)! ;) :) :wizard:

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…Ok.

 

For what is worth, and to whomever it might interest: I came in so “green” & now find myself +- knowing what to expect, a little more knowledgeable (probably never as knowledgeable as most of you guys). And it’s thanks to this thread. Your posts.  Our discussions. Exchanging thoughts, theories & impressions. All of that. And it’s appreciated. I got into this, even if at times I’d feel, like maybe I realize I don’t belong? Which is ok. It’d been fun, so... But if it’s come to, y’know… what I’m being politely let known it has come to. I’ll move on. No harsh feelings at all. I'll carry with me nothing but the good things, and sincerely hope to have left you with something that’s positive, too.

 

Y’all take care, and be well! (and lots of fun to us all come November 18)! ;) :) :wizard:

... did I miss something?  What's this about?  Taking your media blackout early or something? o.O



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Icy Magebane, thank you.

And it's so sad no my favorites.

 

IceQuinn, what's up?

 

Seat with me and let's drink some tea with cookies and tell me everything you want. :)



#2254
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Srsly Icy what're you going on about? Also, Thibax, stealth seems to work like a DA2 and DAO mix. That is, it has a CD like DA2, but like DAO its permanent and can be toggled off. So you definitely have some healthy stealth options available 'right' off the bat (its literally the first skill in a tree for rogues). So, as far as playing a Shadow, I think your A-OK on the stealth part.

 

(and this has been driving me nuts, Quinn - They said top tier abilities, not top 2 abilities... I just woke up and have had to read all these new pages... don't goooo)



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But seriously, why are you leaving? Is it a media blackout or something?



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…Ok.

 

For what is worth, and to whomever it might interest: I came in so “green” & now find myself +- knowing what to expect, a little more knowledgeable (probably never as knowledgeable as most of you guys). And it’s thanks to this thread. Your posts.  Our discussions. Exchanging thoughts, theories & impressions. All of that. And it’s appreciated. I got into this, even if at times I’d feel, like maybe I realize I don’t belong? Which is ok. It’d been fun, so... But if it’s come to, y’know… what I’m being politely let known it has come to. I’ll move on. No harsh feelings at all. I'll carry with me nothing but the good things, and sincerely hope to have left you with something that’s positive, too.

 

Y’all take care, and be well! (and lots of fun to us all come November 18)! ;) :) :wizard:

I hope this isn't from my response to your last post! Looking over it it looks rude and patronising, but I swear it was just me being lazy and not bothering to articulate why it didn't make sense to me because when I tried it just led to me grasping at equally nonsensical straws because everything we've seen (regarding Focus abilities) seems to contradict themselves, due most likely to internal changes or building demos that aren't actually possible in-game. I wasn't trying to shut you down and I CERTAINLY would never try to make you feel like you don't belong. I really like this thread, everyone seems to have different theories and expectations and I love reading and discussing them all. I am really, truly sorry if this is in anyway related to me.



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So ive been thinking about the Reaver spec.

 

Not only do we get an leech ability (Devour), which has more value now since there are almost no healing spells, we also get Le good ol Blood Frenzy which will be up almost 100% of the time because you can sit happily at low health with the focus of the game being on damage shields (Guard, Barrier). Oh yeah guess what......there is no health regen at the end of a fight...you can enter every fight with half health.

 

Reaver best warrior spec semiconfirmed?



#2258
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Have we seen the Reaver abilities in Inquisition? I must admit I have almost no understanding of Reaver gameplay as I've never even had any Reaver companions let alone PCs, but if it's based around grabbing health from enemies or damage bonuses from having low health, it sure sounds like Inquisition is the perfect setting for it. I'm a Mage/Rogue man myself.



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Only in MP, and even then only people who've played it at a show floor. Apparently Devour and Aura of Pain is still there in full force, I'd imagine all the other death related and low hp stuff still exists. At least in some capacity anyway. It's been said Devour is more powerful if enemies are effected by Aura of Pain which sounds like they want you using AoP to bring your health down (im assuming it ignores Guard/Barrier) while doing AoE dmg, then using Devour to get the HP back up while doing bonus dmg or something.

 

Personally I'm hoping there is a rage like focus in Reaver spec, or that we can obtain so I can mix it with Reaver. I always kinda felt like Berseker was a simple specialization that could of been done with a single skill. And if it ends up being a Focus ability that could be amazingly powerful and exactly what im looking for. Gods I hope its true, I REALLY want it to be true. The only damper on that will be no DW'ing but 2H will have to do. Also no Psionics so I can't really re-create my favorite character I've ever made ever, but damnit if I can't get close with Reavers lol.



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This is the build for my boyfriend, Dorian!

24-25 points. I know that I'm pushing it with the number of spells, but I can't decide what to cut.
Inferno: 10 points
Immolate + Upgrade
Flashpoint
Pyromancer
Clean Burn
Wall of Fire + Upgrade
Chaotic Focus
Fire Mine + Upgrade

Winter: 3 points
Fade Step + Upgrade
Winter's Grasp

Storm: 3 points
Chain Lightning
Energy Barrage + Upgrade

Necromancy: 3-4 points

Spirit: 6 points
Barrier + Upgrade
Guardian Spirit
Mind Blast
Revive + Upgrade


I like it :)
It sticks to how Gaider described his magic use :D

#2261
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Spec Description:

 

"As the battle gets bloodier, these vicious and deadly warriors get even more brutal. Hurting them just makes them mad, a mistake most enemies don't live to repeat."

 

Id bet Blood frenzy is in

 

 

Fun theory craft:

 

Sword and Board Reaver warrior starts combat at half health which could mean +50% damage --> use Battleshout from Battlemaster tree (there is one, i believe it was around +20%dmg for a certain amount of time) --> use Lunge and Slash (upgraded), which is 425% weapon dmg if the target is 10m away. And you got yourself a nasty nuke to start things off :)


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Patrick Weekes @PatrickWeekes 2h2 hours ago

@Mike_Laidlaw  Also, as someone who likes playing healers, I find that at least one Mage spec scratches that itch.

Yup, definitely the Necromancer.


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#2263
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Blood Frenzy was (in DA2) 50% dmg bonus at almost no HP. You had to be like 1% hp to get that total dmg bonus. That said you can get a nice bonus at half hp. I'm personally hoping the attack speed boost comes from an enemy dying nearby, that's my favorite. Speed boost from enemies dying is faaantastic.

 

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@Eluvianus Rex : doesn't mean it's necromancer, just means it's in the game for people. Personally, for the Inquisitor, I'm hoping it's Knight enchanter. The NAME of the skill even sounds less Necromancer then anything. Putting it in Knight Enchanter screams DnD Cleric to me. 'Resurgence' sounds very Knight Enchantery to me, I have some hope it's there.



#2264
Hellion Rex

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For all you Knight Enchanters, here is the name of your conjured sword!


 

Patrick Weekes @PatrickWeekes

The Spirit Blade is WONDERFUL. Blah blah blah all valid options but SERIOUSLY KNIGHT-ENCHANTER.


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#2265
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Show us the Knight Enchanter, Bioware!!!

 

I wanna see the Spirit Blade.  :(


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Yup, definitely the Necromancer.

 

I'm guessng Necromancer will be getting all of the Entropy type spells.

 

I'm not that interested in "raising the dead."  but, I'd be interested if there are spells that let you drain the life forces from enemies ( alive or dead ).



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Says he likes playing healers, says 1 spec definitely helps fill that role - points out how awesome Knight Enchanters is. Half-Life 3 confirmed.


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#2268
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For all you Knight Enchanters, here is the name of your conjured sword!

I am definitely on the KE hype train. I wonder if the name means we can expect it to do spirit damage, or if that is just a play on being summoned. I'm still holding out hope that it will do the damage type of your staff, just so we can capitalize on enemy weaknesses if we want. I'm really looking forward to seeing the other abilities in the tree, I hope we get at least one that capitalizes on Spirit Blade, not just more shield abilities.  


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#2269
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Calling it a "Spirit Blade" and not just an "Energy Blade" makes me hopeful it might have an ethereal "shape" to it, and not just a solid lightsaber blade. Perhaps a spirit in the fade imagined/forged it, and we just call it into physical form.


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Calling it a "Spirit Blade" and not just an "Energy Blade" makes me hopeful it might have an ethereal "shape" to it, and not just a solid lightsaber blade. Perhaps a spirit in the fade imagined/forged it, and we just call it into physical form.

I definitely think it will have a definite shape. I just hope they don't pick a really ugly model for it because I doubt we can pick what it looks like. I just want a nice, simple sword, not one of the over the top ones. 


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Calling it a "Spirit Blade" and not just an "Energy Blade" makes me hopeful it might have an ethereal "shape" to it, and not just a solid lightsaber blade. Perhaps a spirit in the fade imagined/forged it, and we just call it into physical form.

Yes, I like this idea. Bioware, make it so!

 

*insert Picard meme*


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#2272
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See now that's a nice idea Gipsy, kinda hope that's how its explained. Also I agree I hope its, visually, a 'faded' sword with a wispy energy effect. That's one thing I think Skyrim got spot on for those bound weapons. The bow looked fantastic.


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I'm guessng Necromancer will be getting all of the Entropy type spells.

 

I'm not that interested in "raising the dead."  but, I'd be interested if there are spells that let you drain the life forces from enemies ( alive or dead ).

 

What's confusing me is...don't all of the specializations only have 3 active abilities plus one Focus ability.

 

So if Resurgence is the Focus ability, that leaves only 3 slots...what are they? Walking Bomb? Animate Dead? Horror? I sort of think that might be it, which is...not necessarily bad, but that cuts out a lot of Entropy.

 

I suppose Walking Bomb could be a passive that has a 40% chance or so whenever you kill an enemy to trigger an explosion.



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Mmmm I've been thinking... Can you imagine the full potential of an Inferno-Spirit combo? All Inferno skills/passives/upgrades + all spirit abilities related to barrier. With the Inferno passive that consumes barrier and increases the damage done... Fire mine+that passive=BOOM!

Edit: I'm really liking all the possibilities!

Totally right?
I really like the winter and storm spells, but i think any character wanting to be a pyromancer will definitely get alot of power from the synergy between spirit and inferno.

Which spec are you planning to take with that combo?
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#2275
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Wait, what? Get your ass back in here! You can't leave!


Seconded ;)