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[pallascedar]

I feel like something that's important to note is that a lot of people assume that race-gated romance will automatically mean that the reason characters won't like you is because "They aren't attracted to humans." or dwarves, or whatever. While I think this is totally legitimate (nobody complained in DA2 when Varric said he wasn't into humans, I don't see why we should complain if that remains true in DA:I).

 

Now, I'm gonna make stuff up here, but there's plenty of good reasons for romances to be gated for reasons that have nothing to do with something like attraction (which doesn't make much sense to me seeing as you can make your character look however you want...). As an example, Iron Bull may be described as ready to jump into bed with anyone, but maybe he feels a sexual relationship with the Inquisitor is a no-no: maybe it takes heart-to-heart conversations with another member of his species for him to open up to the idea of love (which doesn't necessarily have a place in the Qun). Maybe Solas has some connection with the Dalish, and maybe his romance won't happen unless you can connect to him on that level.

 

I generally have faith that Bioware romances will be done well, and I know waiting is frustrating, but we have 4 months of info before we need to worry about not knowing how the romances will play out.

[Vapaa]

Although I'm happy to have Sera available to me. I would be willing to give her up to have the ability to romance Cassandra.

 

But...but then my elfsexual Inquisitor would be forever alone   

[Cespar]

As a person who loves the Dragon Age's dwarves and dwarves in general, I hope the devs don't forget about us, even if we might not be the "popular people." But, I don't mind if us dwarves players don't get that many romance, that will not stop me from playing my favorite race! (P.S. just don't take the dwarves pc away from us. ) 

[WildOrchid]

There's always Vivienne and/or Scribe Girl (give her a chance  )

 

Viv yes.

But scribbles, as much as good she might be, she's a NPC and i'm little wary of npc romances since i tend to prefer companion romances. We'll see when the game comes out.

[HuldraDancer]

Racgating is 100% confirmed then? Pardon me while me and my lady dwarf weep

 

Please please please do not let this racegating thing lead to dwarves and qunari's getting the short end of the stick or no stick at all I don't care how many fans he has if my dwarf can only have Varric I"m going to be a very sad person. Could we at least get to see how many options we'll have before the game comes out pretty please? I don't even need names just numbers.

 

Dwarves hopefully won't get the short end of the stick and if humans get all the goodies so help me I may actually put my head through a wall. So here is something nice to distract me.

Spoiler

[TheodoricFriede]

Frankly i think it is almost assured that Dwarves will have less content in regards to romance options.

 

Not only are those dealing with the whole "unattractive" stigma, but will also take more effort to animate.That AND they are perceived as the least popular race.

 

Im still convinced that a straight male Dwarf will likely have Zero options available to them.

 

Qunari are in a similar boat, but at the very least they have the advantage of people thinking they are attractive.

[AkiKishi]

Racgating is 100% confirmed then? Pardon me while me and my lady dwarf weep

 

Please please please do not let this racegating thing lead to dwarves and qunari's getting the short end of the stick or no stick at all I don't care how many fans he has if my dwarf can only have Varric I"m going to be a very sad person. Could we at least get to see how many options we'll have before the game comes out pretty please? I don't even need names just numbers.

 

(also if someone could please share how to put things in spoiler tags with me that would be great cause I have something I'd like to put up here but I don't want to over crowd the thread)

 

That wording

 

like this but remove the spaces.

 

[ spoiler ] nbbbb [ /spoiler ]

[HuldraDancer]

Frankly i think it is almost assured that Dwarves will have less content in regards to romance options.

 

Not only are those dealing with the whole "unattractive" stigma, but will also take more effort to animate.That AND they are perceived as the least popular race.

 

Im still convinced that a straight male Dwarf will likely have Zero options available to them.

 

Qunari are in a similar boat, but at the very least they have the advantage of people thinking they are attractive.

 

And that worries me dwarves are my favorite DA race and with racgating if I end up with one or none I won't be able to help but feel like the game is telling me 'Sorry you picked the wrong race maybe you'll pick the right one next time' And if Iron Bull is an LI and isn't available to dwarves but is available to elves I"m going to be ticked elves are much more fragile than the sturdy dwarves.

[HuldraDancer]

That wording

 

like this but remove the spaces.

 

[ spoiler ] nbbbb [ /spoiler ]

 

Thank you!

[LilyasAvalon]

Still don't think race gating will be that big of an issue. Again it seems more implemented due to animation if anything.

Although Iron Bull and the concept of love and it's not existing in the Qun is.., interesting.

Though Bull in general fascinates me to no end.

[karushna5]

"Most Romances in a Bioware game"

well played bioware, because there may be many romances overall but because of all this restrictions bullshit( even race restrictions wtf?), they will probably only like two for each race

they are basically forcing us to play different and I'm not liking it at all

 

For an example what was the point to make Sera a lesbian?? She was definietly the favourite for my qunari inquisitor and they could have just made her bisexual like Leliana and both groups would be happy

 

Sometimes it feels forced to have every character bisexual (like in DA:II, Anders basically hitting on my male straight warden all the time) but still I think they showed us in previous games that it doesnt have to be like that

 

its almost as if they are basically forcing us to do multiple very different playthroughs and I actually replay bioware games very often but still I just don't like to play a female and now I have to play a female inquisitor because there is no other way to romance sera???

Sure its just one companion but as David Gaider said its possible that more companions are affected by these restrictions maybe cassandra doesnt want to be with my qunari inquisitor? What do you think?

 

(sry for the thread I overlooked this)

I mean that is the downside to them not all being Bi, is that someone will be gay/lesbian and some will be Bi and some straight. they were all Bi in DA2 because then everyone had the same amount of choices. They said everyone would get 2 choices for their sexuality/race. But that also means that some people will be cut off from being romanced due to your sexuality.

[TheodoricFriede]

And that worries me dwarves are my favorite DA race and with racgating if I end up with one or none I won't be able to help but feel like the game is telling me 'Sorry you picked the wrong race maybe you'll pick the right one next time' And if Iron Bull is an LI and isn't available to dwarves but is available to elves I"m going to be ticked elves are much more fragile than the sturdy dwarves.

The issue is with the animation department. Its hard to animate dwarves with anything other then dwarves.

 

I would have expected that, considering how important the romances in a Bioware game are, they would have actually focused more effort into them, but here we are.

 

Im not an idiot. Its hard. I know. But its an important aspect of the game.

[TheodoricFriede]

Still don't think race gating will be that big of an issue. Again it seems more implemented due to animation if anything.

 

Dont you see though? That IS the issue.

 

With what we currently know about who is likely available as a romance option, Dwaves and Qunari are looking S.O.L.

[Adaar the Unbound]

I feel like something that's important to note is that a lot of people assume that race-gated romance will automatically mean that the reason characters won't like you is because "They aren't attracted to humans." or dwarves, or whatever. While I think this is totally legitimate (nobody complained in DA2 when Varric said he wasn't into humans, I don't see why we should complain if that remains true in DA:I).

Now, I'm gonna make stuff up here, but there's plenty of good reasons for romances to be gated for reasons that have nothing to do with something like attraction (which doesn't make much sense to me seeing as you can make your character look however you want...). As an example, Iron Bull may be described as ready to jump into bed with anyone, but maybe he feels a sexual relationship with the Inquisitor is a no-no: maybe it takes heart-to-heart conversations with another member of his species for him to open up to the idea of love (which doesn't necessarily have a place in the Qun). Maybe Solas has some connection with the Dalish, and maybe his romance won't happen unless you can connect to him on that level.

I generally have faith that Bioware romances will be done well, and I know waiting is frustrating, but we have 4 months of info before we need to worry about not knowing how the romances will play out.

I 100% agree with this. I feel like everyone is being very pessimistic. I think once you play the game i think everyone will be happy with the romance. Maybe some races will get one slightly less options then others, but Dwarves will not be limited to just Varric and Qunari will not be limited to just Iron Bull. A few people will be disappointed that a certain character will not be available to the pc that they wanted, but it will all be okay.

[TheodoricFriede]

 but Dwarves will not be limited to just Varric and Qunari will not be limited to just Iron Bull.

The most certainly will if the statement of issues with animating are true.

[karushna5]

i really think only varric will really be race gated, mostly because nobody seems to play dwarves despite dragon age doing pretty cool stuff with them, and because Varric seemed to lay that rule down.

[wright1978]

I 100% agree with this. I feel like everyone is being very pessimistic. I think once you play the game i think everyone will be happy with the romance. Maybe some races will get one slightly less options then others, but Dwarves will not be limited to just Varric and Qunari will not be limited to just Iron Bull. A few people will be disappointed that a certain character will not be available to the pc that they wanted, but it will all be okay.

Don't agree that it is going to turn out well. For me the best I'm hoping for is disappointing but workable rather than great.

[HuldraDancer]

The issue is with the animation department. Its hard to animate dwarves with anything other then dwarves.

 

I would have expected that, considering how important the romances in a Bioware game are, they would have actually focused more effort into them, but here we are.

 

Im not an idiot. Its hard. I know. But its an important aspect of the game.

I get thats its due to animation but it still won't make me feel any better about it espically since they were able to do PC dwarf romances in DAO but I know there are a lot more romance here so theres more work and I'm not trying to tell people how to do their job but I can't help but feel disappointed in worrying that any dwarf or qunari I make will get little to nothing. I might be over worrying but if its due to animation it seems more likely that dwarves and qunaris are going to get the shaft here.

[AkiKishi]

I 100% agree with this. I feel like everyone is being very pessimistic. I think once you play the game i think everyone will be happy with the romance. Maybe some races will get one slightly less options then others, but Dwarves will not be limited to just Varric and Qunari will not be limited to just Iron Bull. A few people will be disappointed that a certain character will not be available to the pc that they wanted, but it will all be okay.

 

I think the reason they have not gone into specifics is because they will work on what they can for as long as they can, so they don't have those results yet.

It's more of a warning to be prepared and that the priority is to placate real world groups over DA:I races and the people who choose to play them.

[cogsandcurls]

Something tells me Bioware's not going to intentionally exclude Dwarf romance options. But I do think they'll be limited, since it is true that the "Dwarf Lover" demographic is very slim compared to the others. You can't please everyone equally.

 

Yeah, BW isn't going to do such things intentionally, but I'm very wary of the fact this sort of thing could easily lead to oversights with things like, say, a lesbian Cadash Inquisitor (or any Inquisitor that is a combo of less "mainstream" race/orientation) getting maybe one actual choice that fits their orientation. Not out of intention, but because race+gender restrictions is complicated enough before you even factor in a player possibly RPing as strictly gay or straight, which cuts options down even further than what the game technically gates off for you.