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[Fialka]

So I've only read the last couple pages of the thread and re: biphobia, I just want to say I see far too much of that in real life.  I don't want to see it in my game.  

 

I'm a straight female, about as straight as you can get.  I don't really get the huge popularity of all that yaoi/slash stuff out there.  Two men together is not hot to me.  It just exists.  That said, I would have no problem dating a bisexual man.  But I've had straight female friends who claim to be pro-gay rights and Allies and what not, who absolutely would not - have even gone so far as to call it disgusting.  

 

I had no real issue with DA2 having player-sexual characters - I took issue with how it was handled.  That Anders would tell a male PC that Karl and he were lovers but not a female PC gave me the impression that either the character or Bioware felt the need to hide that from me because I wouldn't like it or couldn't handle it or something.  It was a bit insulting.  That said, I prefer the set sexualities for realism and inclusion's sake, and I've said this before: if I'm really taken with a male option who winds up being gay, I'll play a gay character.  And if it turns out a character I love is available to both men and women as an LI, I think it's cool that more people will get to experience his romance as the gender they prefer to play.

[Grieving Natashina]

It effects you for years atleast it has me.

I'll bet.  

[Ajna]

It effects you for years atleast it has me.

I think it does any geniunely good and sweet person.

[Josh902]

Ha ha ok guys if we all become friends ill tell ya about it someday but for now lets move away from this subject atleast for me. I got a lil bit too real there.

[HuldraDancer]

It effects you for years atleast it has me.

 

It can effect you quite deeply I had a friend who had not only been cheated on but accused of cheating by the same person, they still can't get very involved with other people since little things are now red flags to them that they can't unsee. Its quite sad and makes me wish I was around so I could have done something that would probably get me arrested (would have been worth it though ahole deserved worse than what they got  )

 

Edit: Sorry didn't see you wanted to drop it before I posted. I can hide the post if you like?

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I think abuse is the biggest betrayal in a relationship, if we're giving the possible relationship transgressions a status. I guess I could never totally understand why some people are so deeply invested in monogamy to the point where preserving it is the most important thing. I'm more poly, myself, though. I don't mean to offend anyone. I mean, I understand being lied to is never a pleasant feeling. 

[Ajna]

Ha ha ok guys if we all become friends ill tell ya about it someday but for now lets move away from this subject atleast for me. I got a lil bit too real there.

Don't make me go all Wynne on you! *hugs*

[Xetykins]

So, you've never talked about anyone you're dating?  Ever?  That's a part of someone's sexuality as well.  They talk about their private lives (relationships are considered a part of one's private life,) they just don't share the details of their sex lives with you.
 
I guess I can't understand what the hang up is.

My bf and I talked about it while drunk-ish. Curiosity is there but its not something we consider doing.

[Grieving Natashina]

I think abuse is the biggest betrayal in a relationship, if we're giving the possible relationship transgressions a status. I guess I could never totally understand why some people are so deeply invested in monogamy to the point where preserving it is the most important thing. I'm more poly, myself, though. I don't mean to offend anyone. I mean, I understand being lied to is never a pleasant feeling. 

It's going behind someone's back that is the painful part, not the actual sex.  My best friend and his lady are poly, and they feel the same way.  They're open, but they've agreed to be honest to each other.

[Josh902]

It can effect you quite deeply I had a friend who had not only been cheated on but accused of cheating by the same person, they still can't get very involved with other people since little things are now red flags to them that they can't unsee. Its quite sad and makes me wish I was around so I could have done something that would probably get me arrested (would have been worth it though ahole deserved worse than what they got  )

 

Edit: Sorry didn't see you wanted to drop it before I posted. I can hide the post if you like?

 

Naw its fine yo it doesnt bother me. i just meant i wasnt gonna talk about it any more. About myself mostly.

[pallascedar]

So I've only read the last couple pages of the thread and re: biphobia, I just want to say I see far too much of that in real life.  I don't want to see it in my game.  

 

I'm a straight female, about as straight as you can get.  I don't really get the huge popularity of all that yaoi/slash stuff out there.  Two men together is not hot to me.  It just exists.  That said, I would have no problem dating a bisexual man.  But I've had straight female friends who claim to be pro-gay rights and Allies and what not, who absolutely would not - have even gone so far as to call it disgusting.  

 

I had no real issue with DA2 having player-sexual characters - I took issue with how it was handled.  That Anders would tell a male PC that Karl and he were lovers but not a female PC gave me the impression that either the character or Bioware felt the need to hide that from me because I wouldn't like it or couldn't handle it or something.  It was a bit insulting.  That said, I prefer the set sexualities for realism and inclusion's sake, and I've said this before: if I'm really taken with a male option who winds up being gay, I'll play a gay character.  And if it turns out a character I love is available to both men and women as an LI, I think it's cool that more people will get to experience his romance as the gender they prefer to play.

 

Man, you put that really well. I typed a bunch more, but I'm pretty sure it was nonsense.

 

 

 

Bedtime.

[HuldraDancer]

Naw its fine yo it doesnt bother me. i just meant i wasnt gonna talk about it any more. About myself mostly.

Understandable especially with something personal but if you decide you'd like me to hide the post instead I'd be more than happy too. I forget sometimes how one interacts with others so my social skills are very rusty^^; 

[Nocte ad Mortem]

It's going behind someone's back that is the painful part, not the actual sex.  My best friend and his lady are poly, and they feel the same way.  They're open, but they've agreed to be honest to each other.

I understand that lying is bad and I totally agree, but it seems like this specific lying is held on a higher standard than other sorts of lying. I'm not saying people aren't totally entitled to feel that way, though. I just could never relate to it, personally. 

[Josh902]

It's going behind someone's back that is the painful part, not the actual sex.  My best friend and his lady are poly, and they feel the same way.  They're open, but they've agreed to be honest to each other.

 

This is the Truth. I said im gonna move on and after this post i will, but when i was with my ex i always said if there's a problem come to me talk to me be honest with me if you dont wanna be with me thats ok just tell me i want you be happy no matter what and then they still go around and cheat on you when you've loved them cared for them given them everything and they couldnt even be honest about how they felt that is the betrayal. They don't just betray you they betray themselves as well.

[Deviija]

It's about lying and breaking trust.  If you can't have trust, then there isn't a very positive or healthy foundation for a relationship to be built upon.  Regardless of gender, I imagine cheating on an LI would elicit the same general response from the LI when they find out.  It'd be preferable to me, anyway.  

 

As for the question of 'who would you be in Thedas' type of questions, I've said it in the past, "I'd be Village NPC #2."  

[AkiKishi]

On the flip side you have people who prefer not to know.Or not rock the boat long as the family unit stays intact and social facade is maintained. 

 

Everyone and every case is unique. 

[Josh902]

On the flip side you have people who prefer not to know.Or not rock the boat long as the family unit stays intact and social facade is maintained. 

 

Everyone and every case is unique. 

 

This is also true i mean look at the Kennedys.

[HuldraDancer]

I understand that lying is bad and I totally agree, but it seems like this specific lying is held on a higher standard than other sorts of lying. I'm not saying people aren't totally entitled to feel that way, though. I just could never relate to it, personally. 

Well for me at least it holds a bigger stigma cause I've seen family hate eachother over something like that preach about how it was wrong then turn around and do it not so long after they've gone through that same feeling. I have two relatives who hate eachother because one helped the others wife cheat on them and its something they both bring up a lot. So I can't speak for others but that particular brand of lying holds a deep stigma for me despite having it never happen to me personally.

 

But this is kind of off topic unless we're going to talk about how do we think cheating will be handled in the game which I have quite a few ideas I'd love to see in that case

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Everyone and every case is unique. 

Absolutely. Every relationship is a special snowflake with it's own rules and those rules are really no one outside the relationship's business or place to critique.   

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Well for me at least it holds a bigger stigma cause I've seen family hate eachother over something like that preach about how it was wrong then turn around and do it not so long after they've gone through that same feeling. I have two relatives who hate eachother because one helped the others wife cheat on them and its something they both bring up a lot. So I can't speak for others but that particular brand of lying holds a deep stigma for me despite having it never happen to me personally.

 

But this is kind of off topic unless we're going to talk about how do we think cheating will be handled in the game which I have quite a few ideas I'd love to see in that case

Well, a lot of people have suggested cheating in-game as a plot device, either by you or by another character towards you.

 

I think it's even more interesting as to what choices you should be given if a character cheats on you. I can't help but think a lot of people would want the murderknife. I've heard them calling for it over less. I'm not sure I'd be comfortable with more than being able to kick them. For me personally, I'd love to just be able to suggest an open relationship. 

[Dean_the_Young]

Absolutely. Every relationship is a special snowflake with it's own rules and those rules are really no one outside the relationship's business or place to critique.   

Man, I'm glad I didn't believe this when I had a friend in an abusive relationship.

[Samahl]

For me personally, I'd love to just be able to suggest an open relationship. 

If Inquisition doesn't tank, I hope there'll be a future Dragon Age game where you can be poly.

[Josh902]

If Inquisition doesn't tank, I hope there'll be a future Dragon Age game where you can be poly.

 

Im all in favor of a Rand Al'thor route but you would need superrrrrr character interaction when they build this road.

[AkiKishi]

Maintaining a harem in RL always seemed like far too much work.

[HuldraDancer]

Well, a lot of people have suggested cheating in-game as a plot device, either by you or by another character towards you.

 

I think it's even more interesting as to what choices you should be given if a character cheats on you. I can't help but think a lot of people would want the murderknife. I've heard them calling for it over less. I'm not sure I'd be comfortable with more than being able to kick them. For me personally, I'd love to just be able to suggest an open relationship. 

There was a thread in the Feed Back section that was talking about relationships and consequences, I don't know if I would go so far as to murder knife someone over cheating though especially with all at stake.Either break up, forgive, or suggest and open relationship and let it go (though I doubt an open relationship would be possible as anything more than a one time fling) I thought it would be interesting if you cheated on you LI if you had some that were willing to forgive you and some that were not and that depending on who you were with if they did forgive you, you'd have to work back at getting their trust again.