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Oh yeah ? Cullen ? Do you know him ?
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Yeah, what about him? they didn't include him as a romance because he was popular, they included him as a romance because they wanted to and it fit with the story they wanted to create. The writers and devs have expressed this multiple times...
Scribbles could have been a totaly different character, I don't know, asian, spanish latino like Isabella or I don't know maybe a dwarve female or a Qunari female like Talis, etc etc. Right know we have 2 black females who are mages, they have at least different clothes ha ha.
She isn't even a mage 
Vivienne looking like she's made of plastic and reminding me of one of those anime dolls is the most off putting thing.
Vivienne have a skin tone and bone structure (and attitude) I do not find particularly attractive.
We don't really know a lot about her attitude, so that is kind of a cop out.
Hmm, guys? I think it's better we all drop this.
Um.
No.
Im sorry. No. Its not racist to not find certain skin tones or bone structures attractive. There comes a point where people need to accept some people attain physical arousal from different things then other people. And it has nothing to do with ethnic background.
Wow thank you, but no it's so hard to understand for some people. I m pretty sure some girls here on BSN wouldn't sleep with a black or an asian because theu wouldn't be attracted by them and other would only sleep with a black guy. You re a racist if you absolutely hate someone just for his ethnicity or skin tone without a reason.
Look at some dating websites (and a lot), you can choose the ethnicty you are looking for. So they are racists too ? Racists everywhere. Come on.
We don't really know a lot about her attitude, so that is kind of a cop out.
She is focused on material possessions. Cut throat politics, and rising to high stations. The attitude of, to paraphrase, "An Orlesian woman would climb the highest mountain in her best dress and stand taller atop the summit in her high heeled shoes" is incredibly unattractive to me.
I know enough of her attitude.
Fine, so why even bring up he race at all then?
You could have just said everything you said now, lol.
I must be the only person who actually is critical of the Qun and doesn't really love it, lol.
I hate it ^^
If there was any criticism to be made based on what (little) we know of romance options for straight males, is that none of them seems any fun to be around 
People are entitled to personal preferences, but can we please drop the race discussion every time Vivienne comes up in regards to possible romance? Just keep it to yourself if you think there's nothing racist about finding every single person on Earth of certain skintones or physical characteristics unattractive, at least on this forum.
I mean, I like it when people are upfront about that kind of prejudice, so I can know that we're not going to get along, but it does no good to talk about it on a video game forum.
Having a preference is one thing. I like strong noses on women, that's a physical preference. But saying "I don't date black people because I'm not attracted to them" is implying all black people look/act/are the exact same, and that's a racist sentiment. I think instead of being defensive you should probably asses your own feelings and try to figure out why it is you seem to think you are unattracted to an entire race of diverse people.
Now, please change this subject before this explodes.
You re wrong, I have a lot of very good black friends, in fact my best friend is from Somalia, so don't try this with me please trying you imply "you re racist but you don't even know". Yes let's change the subject because you obviously don't want to understand, no problem with me 
Fine, so why even bring up he race at all then?
You could have just said everything you said now, lol.
Because I also do not find Vivveine physically attractive either.
Unfortunately there is no way to say it without sounding racist. Even now i am choosing my words carefully to avoid being misunderstood. But she has a look that I am not attracted to.
I must be the only person who actually is critical of the Qun and doesn't really love it, lol.
Racists everywhere.
I agree with this assessment.
Anyway, the only reason I can see you saying what you said was to stir **** up, so please desist with this nonsense.
I hate it ^^
It comes off as having a lot of the negative traits of communism mixed with the fanaticism involved in people who violently proselytize their religion.
Also pro tip: if you feel like you can't say something without it sounding racist, it's probably racist and you shouldn't say it.
People are entitled to personal preferences, but can we please drop the race discussion every time Vivienne comes up in regards to possible romance? Just keep it to yourself if you think there's nothing racist about finding every single person on Earth of certain skintones or physical characteristics unattractive, at least on this forum.
I mean, I like it when people are upfront about that kind of prejudice, so I can know that we're not going to get along, but it does no good to talk about it on a video game forum.
I love your method of pacification. "If you have a different opinion please keep it to yourself, but first know that I think it's dumb".
Bad move. I mean, I can get wanting to have the last word but it doesn't actually help to end the argument. Just for future reference 
People are entitled to personal preferences, but can we please drop the race discussion every time Vivienne comes up in regards to possible romance? Just keep it to yourself if you think there's nothing racist about finding every single person on Earth of certain skintones or physical characteristics unattractive, at least on this forum.
You have chosen to misunderstand me. That is most certainly not what i said.
Wow thank you, but no it's so hard to understand for some people. I m pretty sure some girls here on BSN wouldn't sleep with a black or an asian because theu wouldn't be attracted by them and other would only sleep with a black guy. You re a racist if you absolutely hate someone just for his ethnicity or skin tone without a reason.
Look at some dating websites (and a lot), you can choose the ethnicty you are looking for. So they are racists too ? Racists everywhere. Come on.
Well to me what would make different ethnicities as "un-attractive" is different customs and views that I might not agree with. What comes to looks, give me the white, asian or black man, there is good looking people in every race. I think it's odd to think "There can't be ever any attractive black/asian/white person for me!" when every human looks different and is invidual. Everyone has their preferences though.
I love your method of pacification. "If you have a different opinion please keep it to yourself, but first know that I think it's dumb".
Bad move. Just for future reference
LOL, I really don't care what you think, and you should know that, since I already have stated my opinion about people with your opinion about "ethnic" people like me and my family. We wouldn't get along in real life, and this topic is not going anywhere good. I've said my peace.
Yeah, what about him? they didn't include him as a romance because he was popular, they included him as a romance because they wanted to and it fit with the story they wanted to create. The writers and devs have expressed this multiple times...
Lol, are you joking ? Of course he's in it because he was popular, there's even a tweet from I dont know if it was Schumacher, Gaider or someone else that state something like this.
Just look at the Cullen thread in DA2 forum, he has like 300000000 posts and plenty of fangirls and fanboys claiming "we want Cullen as a LI in DA3".
I agree with this assessment.
Anyway, the only reason I can see you saying what you said was to stir **** up, so please desist with this nonsense.
Just a question for you ^^
If I only like blond girls am I a racist too ? Because it's the same level of nonsense thinking you re racist because you love only asians or only dwarves physically for exemple.
Question: Do you think (or has it been stated and I am oblivious) there will be different romance paths like in DA2? Rivalry/friendship? Or do you think, since there are a lot more this time, that it will only be a friendship type? : )
I really really think straight guys needed this ( even those who aren't complaining and did nothing, because a good lesson can be applied to everyone ), given some reactions. And I'm not saying this to be sarcastic, I'm really serious, reading silently this board and noticing the comments. Life needs to teach them some lessons. I mean it's just obvious. They were too used to have everything, just look at how they are shocked as if they didn't expect this result with the set sexualities. " Sera is lesbian, that's dumb because I want her, she should be BI, it's not fair for us guys. " Or they took Sera from us guys, we lost her " while actually Sera was always meant to be lesbian.
Basically, it's okay to have a lesbian companion, as long as it isn't something I want. And now, everyone should have Sera to be happy aparently, ( yes, because obviously all the males think the same )
Gay people shouldn't have good companions, with a good appearance apparently. Because obviously if they are attractive, then, they should be available to straight guys, because straight guys are entlitled to have everything and all the attractive female characters.
Those guys don't even have the decency to think the issue resolves more around their own tastes. Oh, she has a large jaw, oh, she has short hair, oh she's black, oh she has one scar on the face. Given their narrow opinion about what is an attractive woman, I'm not really surprised that they don't find anyone appealing to them. You can't try something new, you must give overall the same look for all the female characters over and over in all the games. Yeah no... The thing is that Bioware couldn't appeal to the tastes of every single guy on earth. It's impossible to satisfy everyone.The only thing they can do is to provide several options to each gender, trying their best to make the Lis interesting. If you don't find anyone appealing to you, you have the right to be disappointed, but stop being ridiculous, Bioware isn't unfair to you or straight guys. You are just unlucky.
Those people break so easily once that one game doesn't cater to them, that it's not even funny at this point. And the " okay, goodbye Bioware, I'm done with you, I'll play the witcher 3 because at least it cater to guys and my tastes of women. " I don't even know where to start with this. But this is the dumbest thing I've ever read nowadays. 
LOL, I really don't care what you think, and you should know that, since I already have stated my opinion about people with your opinion about "ethnic" people like me and my family. We wouldn't get along in real life, and this topic is not going anywhere good. I've said my peace.
You should consider not condemning people for what they find physically attractive, and rather focus on the content of their character.
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