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[Gwydden]

They were too used to have everything.

There's something strange in this logic. No, not yours, theirs. I mean, did so many straight men really find someone "to their taste" in every other game? It really is strange. I remember not really finding neither Morrigan or Leliana that interesting in DAO, so if I had trouble making a choice there was more because neither of them really stood out. And Isabela was the obvious choice in DA2  in no small part because I found Merrill to come across as even more of a little sister than Bethany. I've already said I'm not particularly interested in any of the choices in DAI, but that's really nothing new.

 

I guess I'm just surprised people started complaining now. Why is it different this time?

[Seishoujyo]

Because she's a lesbian. 

 

Well, you take the risk to have a lot of angry people about this choice, so you shouldn't complain that people are bitching about it because you knew it would end like this. Bioware and some of you should just accept that a lot of people aren't happy.

[TheodoricFriede]

 

 

I guess I'm just surprised people started complaining now. Why is it different this time?

Well, i was pretty disappointed with the potential romance options for a straight male even when i thought Sera was one of them.

 

Only reason i was going for her was because she was, at the very least, and elf, and i find that cool and interesting.

 

My frustration comes from wanting romance options for a straight male that aren't human.

[Ajna]

I keep typing replies to things and then deleting them again, is it just me who does that?  Honestly, I'm drained, I got nothin left...

[Char]

Lol, are you joking ? Of course he's in it because he was popular, there's even a tweet from I dont know if it was Schumacher, Gaider or someone else that state something like this.

 

Just look at the Cullen thread in DA2 forum, he has like 300000000 posts and plenty of fangirls and fanboys claiming "we want Cullen as a LI in DA3".

 

 

 

 

I think you must be misremembering. Have a dev quote: (you can thank me later)

 

 Posted by David Gaider on 17 November 2012 - 05:03 AM

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Orian Tabris wrote...
Oh, good. So there's still hope that the DA3  won't be fan-pandering it's companions.

I assure you that if we did include Cullen as a follower, it wouldn't be solely to "pander" to his fans. Not that I would overly mind pandering to them. They're not a large group, but there's hardly a nicer and more polite group one could choose to pander to. 

[Gwydden]

Well, you take the risk to have a lot of angry people about this choice, so you shouldn't complain that people are bitching about it because you knew it would end like this. Bioware and some of you should just accept that a lot of people aren't happy.

And a lot of other people don't give a damn.

 

Really, no one can imagine the happiness it would bring me if people stopped complaining. Especially if it would mean less admonitions to straight males that make me sigh at the thought that I am being shoehorned into the same group as the loudest, most blind complainers.

[Mukora]

These gripes aren't really any different than before.

Nor are they any less stupid.

[Panda]

Well, you take the risk to have a lot of angry people about this choice, so you shouldn't complain that people are bitching about it because you knew it would end like this. Bioware and some of you should just accept that a lot of people aren't happy.

 

Maybe those people should get over it. There is going to be straight and gay LI's as well. BW already said before that there is going to be set sexualities and everyone is not bi this time around. People can be disapointed that their favourite has "wrong sexuality" to them but being angry about is, is just childish. Straight male characters aren't only one who are going to be destricted from LI, gay characters and straigh female are going to be as well. It's all fair.

[Samahl]

Well, you take the risk to have a lot of angry people about this choice, so you shouldn't complain that people are bitching about it because you knew it would end like this. Bioware and some of you should just accept that a lot of people aren't happy.

I wasn't happy that I couldn't romance Morrigan as a lady. But of course, straight people are more realistic than lesbians, and the straight male audience is more important than everyone else, so...

[Seishoujyo]

It has to do with animations being too hard.

 

I want all the romance options to be Bisexual, but its just not going to happen.

 

You know, few month ago I was against bi romances and I was wrong, but now I changed my mind, locking a lesbien or gay LI is even worse, now I m totally for bi LI hell yeah.

 

It's the only way to make everyone happy, because some of us guys will be bitching for Sera, some girls will be bitching about Dorian being gay only etc. It's a game and a game should be fair to everyone. Of course if someone is a girl and role play as a girl you don't care and don't feel our pain because you will have Sera as a LI and you will only say "on no I think Bioware did the good choice, stop complaining people and grow up"

 

Personally I m not happy with Cassandra or Vivienne, and I m sorry for that.

[Felya87]

Uhm. I know I speak as a stright female, so I may not be the better judge about finding a female character attractive or not...

 

But with DA2 I had lost interest in making a male character, since I didn't find interesting the females romance (I simply prefer f/m or m/f romances) since I find both Isabela and Merrill just...well, quite banals as characters, at least to romance. the "navigate" and the "innocent".

I really like the strong females we have in DAI. both Cass and Vivienne. Once I'll finish my females runs, I guess I'll try the male path, just because I really like these characters. i think those two would be very interesting to romance!

[HuldraDancer]

Is there anyone who isn't going to romance anybody in their first playthrough or at all? I would surprise myself if I didn't romance anybody because I have always romanced somebody in DA and in ME

Maybe not the first playthrough but eventually for sure I kind of liked the stay single playthroughs in DAO and just focusing on being friends with your companions, still don't have a stay single playthrough of DA2 though since there is so little companion interaction to begin with even with a romance and I want as much interaction with my companions as I can get. So as long as I get plenty of interaction with my companions without a romance then yeah deffiently going to do a 'forever alone' playthrough at some point.

[Ailith Tycane]

Well, you take the risk to have a lot of angry people about this choice, so you shouldn't complain that people are bitching about it because you knew it would end like this. Bioware and some of you should just accept that a lot of people aren't happy.

 

Or they make everyone bisexual and everyone complains anyway about how it's not "realistic."

 

I think Bioware finally realized they can't win and pleas everyone in this regard so they finally just went back to making the characters they want, and I admire that...Just so long as Cassandra is into ladies...lol

[zestalyn]

Well, you take the risk to have a lot of angry people about this choice, so you shouldn't complain that people are bitching about it because you knew it would end like this. Bioware and some of you should just accept that a lot of people aren't happy.

I honestly don't see the big deal. Just play a ​female Inquisitor. 

I'm a straight female, and if one of the dudes I fancied turns out to be a gay LI. Whatever, I'll probably have one playthrough with my Miss Inquisitor, and another playthrough  where I make a sexy male Inquisitor. Happy face. If I don't have time to do two play throughs, whatever, life goes on, and the game is still going to be awesome. 

[Gwydden]

I think people are making a LOT of assumptions here. We still know very little about the characters. Maybe they're just not your type physically and/or maybe what little we know doesn't seem that promising, but that's far from conclusive evidence that you won't, in fact, enjoy the romance.

 

Just sayin'.

[Ailith Tycane]

I honestly don't see the big deal. Just play a ​female Inquisitor. 

I'm a straight female, and if one of the dudes I fancied turns out to be a gay LI. Whatever, I'll probably have one playthrough with my Miss Inquisitor, and another playthrough  where I make a sexy male Inquisitor. Happy face. If I don't have time to do two play throughs, whatever, life goes on, and the game is still going to be awesome. 

 

I don't think this is really a valid piece of advice. As someone who doesn't like playing male characters whenever I am given the choice, I understand not wanting to play as a man just for a romance aspect. That being said, you are allowed to be dissapointed that someone isn't available to your preferred character, but don't be a ****** about it. Get over it and move on. 

[Seishoujyo]

And a lot of other people don't give a damn.

 

Really, no one can imagine the happiness it would bring me if people stopped complaining. Especially if it would mean less admonitions to straight males that make me sigh at the thought that I am being shoehorned into the same group as the loudest, most blind complainers.

 

Maybe... But you know ? If Sera was bi there wouldn't even be a discussion here. Because everyone would be happy, straight people and ****** people or people who are role playing etc etc. Instead of this... well this is what's happening now. Bioware knew it would end up like this, but they did it. I pretty sure Sera isn't an important character to the main plot, why they didn't write her bi just like every character in DA2 (maybe Merril was straight). Theodoric is saying it's because of the animations, ok but was that a problem in DA2 ?

[Ailith Tycane]

"Give the straight men what we want and then you wont have to hear us complain."

[Panda]

I think people are making a LOT of assumptions here. We still know very little about the characters. Maybe they're just not your type physically and/or maybe what little we know doesn't seem that promising, but that's far from conclusive evidence that you won't, in fact, enjoy the romance.

 

Just sayin'.

 

Personally I think we- or at least I know enough to say who I think is attractive and who's not. We know pretty much what everyone looks like and about personality of many companions. Some are even returning so there is much info about those. Of cource I'm willing to keep open mind and see if I change my opinion in some companions in the game and probaply I will-- but so far I'm only intrested in romancing Cullen, Dorian and Cassandra. Their looks and personalities from what I know so far are very attractive to me.

[godModeAlpha]

Maybe... But you know ? If Sera was bi there wouldn't even be a discussion here. Because everyone would be happy, straight people and ****** people or people who are role playing etc etc. Instead of this... well this is what's happening now. Bioware knew it would end up like this, but they did it. I pretty sure Sera isn't an important character to the main plot, why they didn't write her bi just like every character in DA2 (maybe Merril was straight). Theodoric is saying it's because of the animations, ok but was that a problem in DA2 ?

What does ****** mean?

[Seishoujyo]

I honestly don't see the big deal. Just play a ​female Inquisitor. 

I'm a straight female, and if one of the dudes I fancied turns out to be a gay LI. Whatever, I'll probably have one playthrough with my Miss Inquisitor, and another playthrough  where I make a sexy male Inquisitor. Happy face. If I don't have time to do two play throughs, whatever, life goes on, and the game is still going to be awesome. 

 

I will do this for the trophies if you have to romance every character, I played as a female in DAO for Zevran and Alistair. But you know when a play a game like DA or ME I role play a lot, the character is me so I have to play as a male first, I m too invested in the game.

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure Bioware doesn't have a problem with people not being happy

 

Oh you....

[zestalyn]

I don't think this is really a valid piece of advice. As someone who doesn't like playing male characters whenever I am given the choice, I understand not wanting to play as a man just for a romance aspect. That being said, you are allowed to be dissapointed that someone isn't available to your preferred character, but don't be a ****** about it. Get over it and move on. 

I made that comment because clearly some people are so offended that they can't romance this one particular character. If it matters that much to them, if their ability to enjoy the game relies so much on that one particular romance. then they obviously do technically have the option of pursuing the romance. Alot of guys already do it for Mass Effect. Roll a FemShep because they love Samantha Traynor. But, if they don't want to spend the time playing as a female, then oh well! Hence your point. 

 

I think people are making a LOT of assumptions here. We still know very little about the characters. Maybe they're just not your type physically and/or maybe what little we know doesn't seem that promising, but that's far from conclusive evidence that you won't, in fact, enjoy the romance.

 

Just sayin'.

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Yes, this. You say you're not happy with Cassandra or Vivienne, but honey, do you really know. 

I used to be repulsed by Garrus before playing ME because he looked creepy as hell. The second I got to know him in ME2 I was utterly smitten and life was never the same haha. Personality matters - it's like some people here need to be reminded of that lol...

[Andraste_Reborn]

Is there anyone who isn't going to romance anybody in their first playthrough or at all? I would surprise myself if I didn't romance anybody because I have always romanced somebody in DA and in ME

 

There's every chance my initial dwarf Inquisitor will stay single. If Varric and Blackwall aren't romances, Iron Bull is either not a romance or unavailable to dwarves, and Dorian is gay ... yeah. There's a chance that Solas will win me over when we learn more about him, but Cullen is a no-go. (I only want to romance him with a mage.)

[XMissWooX]

Ever since DA2 I've advocated the 'all bisexual' approach to romances, however, I actually think I've gone into reverse.

I still prefer the 'all bisexual' approach because I feel it allows the most freedom for players to role play any character they wish, but now that the 'set sexuality' approach has been confirmed and I've had a chance to hear other people's views and to think about it, I really don't think it will *all* that bad. And certainly, it's made a lot of players happy and LGBTQ gamers seem to now feel *truly* represented.

So, I can sit here gnashing my teeth about the decision to not use 'all bisexual', or I can look at the positives and be happy for the people who have wanted this for quite some time.
I'll be aiming for the latter ( though I confess I may spend a *tiny* bit of time doing the former )