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#326
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I never demanded any of that, so I got screwed by said whining.


I liked the DA2 way too but enough people complained about everyone being bi that we have gender & race restrictions this time but others still whine cos a pretty female companion is denied to straight male characters

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I'd be very surprised if the gay/straight love interests had race preferences. ( I hate the term"gated" it feels incredibly negative). It jay makes less fiscal sense for Sera to have race restrictions than say, for a bisexual IB. Cutting Sera off to dwarves saves them animating one scene, cutting IB off saves them two. I think we can expect most romances to have gender preferences or species preferences, not both.

 

This is an excellent point that hadn't occured to me. I'll be very happy if this is the case, especially if we have eight romances rather than six.



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All right, I think people are starting to think that the word restriction means "This character will romance exclusively this race and nothing else." That needn't be the case.

I also think some people are thinking that "This means race X can only romance other people of the same race!" Which also doesn't have to be the case.

There's 4 races the player character can be. If all the romances are available to all races with the exception of 1, then "race restrictions exist" is still true.


Of the shown characters, Varric is a dwarf. We're not going to say "The only option for dwarf PCs is Varric" (there's no guarantee that Varric is even a romance option). So unless we were having no romances for dwarves (we aren't), then I think there's a pretty decent chance that there will be non-dwarf NPCs that have no problem hooking up with a dwarf inquisitor, just by playing the odds.

Yeah, I thought this was what you meant.

#329
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Hm. This still supports my original theory of No Cadash and Bull action. Oh confirmation why must you allude me so...

Thanks anyway Allan :)

#330
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Oghren would sleep with anyone without a Y chromozone; he wasn't a romance option.

 

I though he mentioned in Awakening not being attracted to human or evles since they're too scrawny. He seemed to prefer the rear ends on dwarven women.



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Varric or Dagna?
Mind you, Allan didn't say that there aren't dwarves romances. He said that dwarf PC have access to other type of romances as well. It was more about the concern of dwarves getting the short end of the stick.
I think Varric have high chances to be a LI.

 

Now that I remembered Dagna is in a game, I could see her as a potential NPC romance option  :lol:



#332
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I think that this is why there is such a divide here.  Neither side is right; it's just that one way serves one group better and the other way serves the other group better.  DA: O and DA: I serves a different group in this respect and DA 2 served the other.

 

Very much so.  We have to pick our battles in terms of being fair, because the only real way to be "fair" would be to have no romances (and possibly maybe having all characters be romanceable by any player character) because it's the only way that no one person is given any sort of preferential treatment over romances.  I think it's safe to say that we aren't doing that with DAI.

 

Even in DA2, there were people that said it was unfair because they didn't like any of the romances and they should be allowed to romance Varric and so forth.  There were large fights between groups that broke out after the romance details were released to the public.


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#333
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He also said he found out he was just the right size to show a female human a good time

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I though he mentioned in Awakening not being attracted to human or evles since they're too scrawny. He seemed to prefer the rear ends on dwarven women.

And legs too.



#335
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I liked the DA2 way too but enough people complained about everyone being bi that we have gender & race restrictions this time but others still whine cos a pretty female companion is denied to straight male characters

 

The idea that we are doing things this way in direct response to complaints is overstated.  The primary reason that the romances in DA2 were all bisexual is because we were only writing 4 romances, and we wanted everyone to have choice.  If we're writing more than 4 romances, that restriction needn't be as strong.



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Even in DA2, there were people that said it was unfair because they didn't like any of the romances and they should be allowed to romance Varric and so forth.  There were large fights between groups that broke out after the romance details were released to the public.

Ah, the fires that broke out....



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Now that I remembered Dagna is in a game, I could see her as a potential NPC romance option  :lol:

If Dagna got enough screen time to be an option... I just... seeing as how she's an artificer in this game I'd really really like her to be a companion or NPC in one of the next games... 



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And legs too.

Could have sworn he said dwarf legs weren't a great accessory and that its better to get them out of the way (at least he said something like that during my Brosca run with a romanced Alistair)



#339
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I liked the DA2 way too but enough people complained about everyone being bi that we have gender & race restrictions this time but others still whine cos a pretty female companion is denied to straight male characters


Those who didn't want the change are perfectly within their rights to voice unhappiness about being denied access to sera.

#340
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In a perfect world we would have 4 Straight , 4 Bi , 4 L/G romances , there everyone would have a large pool to choose from and SHOULD have someone they like.



#341
Hellion Rex

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Now that I remembered Dagna is in a game, I could see her as a potential NPC romance option  :lol:

True. She's just as likely as Scribbles for a possible romance. I guess she's more or less our chief engineer.


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As long as Dagna or another dwarf woman is romancable I'm fine.

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 and they should be allowed to romance Varric and so forth. 

In defense of those people, have you seen Varric?

 

He is a Paragon of Manliness that one.


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#344
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Could have sworn he said dwarf legs weren't a great accessory and that its better to get them out of the way (at least he said something like that during my Brosca run with a romanced Alistair)

You could be right,it's been a while since I heard that particular piece of dialogue.



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In a perfect world we would have 4 Straight , 4 Bi , 4 L/G romances.

Or 2/2/2 lol. Why do would we necessarily need 4 of each?


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#346
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In defense of those people, have you seen Varric?

 

He is a Paragon of Manliness that one.

And he looks so damn ripped in DAI... :wub:



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In defense of those people, have you seen Varric?

 

He is a Paragon of Manliness that one.

Agreed,everybody wants that dwarf and his chest hair.I remember him even lampshading it during DA2.



#348
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Wow.  In retrospect, remember the blissful fog that we were all living in just two weeks ago when people were having arguments about whether the romance system was 2/2/2 or 2/4/2?  We were all so young and innocent then......!


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#349
Allan Schumacher

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In defense of those people, have you seen Varric?

 

He is a Paragon of Manliness that one.

 

 

Getting into fights because of romance content is pretty much what led to the romance subforum for ME3 getting shut down though.  I don't like facilitating people getting hostile towards each other.

 

I understand your post was in jest, but I've seen people legitimize their aggression for the same (and similar) reasons.



#350
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And he looks so damn ripped in DAI... :wub:

Too bad the chest hair is hidden under that pesky shirt of his.