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#3901
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I dont really see it as homophobic. Just being a kind of an uneducated crass jerk.

 

Homophobic, to me, would be if Gamlen said something like "I dont want you sick people in my house!" or some such nonsense.

 

I think his comments are far more to try to upset Hawke, rather then to insult gay people.



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What about Merrill? 

 

He doesn't comment about Merrill at all (at least he doesn't about f!Hawke and Merrill, I've never played as m!Hawke).



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He doesn't comment about Merrill at all (at least he doesn't about f!Hawke and Merrill, I've never played as m!Hawke).

Good. I'd have even less living relatives if he insulted Merrill.  :bandit:


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#3904
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He doesn't comment about Merrill at all (at least he doesn't about f!Hawke and Merrill, I've never played as m!Hawke).

Im pretty sure he says the "So you're into elves?" line.



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https://twitter.com/...048442874408960

 

Iron Bull confirmed as LI apparently. 



#3906
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Regarding Gamlen's homophobia, here you go (from here):

  • (In Gamlen’s House) So, you’re into elves, huh? I guess I don’t have to ask which one of you’s the girl. (to a male Hawke if Fenris is romanced)
  • (In Gamlen’s House) So, you’re into elves, huh? It takes all kinds. (to a female Hawke if Fenris is romanced)
  • (In Gamlen’s House) So, I’ve heard you let that apostate live at your place. I guess I don’t have to ask which one of you’s the girl. (to a male Hawke if Anders is romanced)
  • (In Gamlen’s House) I hear you moved that apostate boy into your house. You really are your mother’s daughter. (to a female Hawke if Anders is romanced)
  • (In Gamlen’s House) So, I hear that you’ve been slipping it to that pirate **** from the Hanged Man. What’s that like? Two women? I’ve always wondered… (to a female Hawke if Isabela is romanced)
  • (In Gamlen’s House) So, I hear that you’ve been slipping it to that pirate **** from the Hanged Man. The ****** turned me down flat. (to a male Hawke if Isabela is romanced)
Yeah, eww.


In game it would be one sentence (which is bad enough) but seeing it all listed like that.. it's just vile.

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https://twitter.com/...048442874408960

 

Iron Bull confirmed as LI apparently. 

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Regarding Gamlen's homophobia, here you go (from here):

 

  • (In Gamlen’s House) So, you’re into elves, huh? I guess I don’t have to ask which one of you’s the girl. (to a male Hawke if Fenris is romanced)
  • (In Gamlen’s House) So, you’re into elves, huh? It takes all kinds. (to a female Hawke if Fenris is romanced)
  • (In Gamlen’s House) So, I’ve heard you let that apostate live at your place. I guess I don’t have to ask which one of you’s the girl. (to a male Hawke if Anders is romanced)
  • (In Gamlen’s House) I hear you moved that apostate boy into your house. You really are your mother’s daughter. (to a female Hawke if Anders is romanced)
  • (In Gamlen’s House) So, I hear that you’ve been slipping it to that pirate **** from the Hanged Man. What’s that like? Two women? I’ve always wondered… (to a female Hawke if Isabela is romanced)
  • (In Gamlen’s House) So, I hear that you’ve been slipping it to that pirate **** from the Hanged Man. The ****** turned me down flat. (to a male Hawke if Isabela is romanced)

Yeah, eww.

 

 

I just threw up in my mouth a little.



#3909
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https://twitter.com/...048442874408960
 
Iron Bull confirmed as LI apparently.


And Freddie Prinze Jr. is doing the voice! (same feed) I'm really happy about this. Loved him as Vega and now IB... My mind might already be made up. :wub:

Okay you can peel me off the ceiling now....


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Romance or fling?  Either way, I'm a pretty happy camper.  This (potentially) bodes well for Varric as well.  It at least means that A) weird size isn't a complete barrier to someone being a romance and B.) the devs aren't being turned off because they think players only want elves and humans.



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I dont really see it as homophobic. Just being a kind of an uneducated crass jerk.

 

Homophobic, to me, would be if Gamlen said something like "I dont want you sick people in my house!" or some such nonsense.

 

I think his comments are far more to try to upset Hawke, rather then to insult gay people.

 

I agree that Gamlen is a ridiculous jerk in almost every way, but to sneeringly refer to one of a m/m couple as the "girl" is pretty damned homophobic and insulting to gay people. 

 

https://twitter.com/...048442874408960

 

Iron Bull confirmed as LI apparently. 

 

YES!  This would be amazing!!!!!  Bisexual IB LI?  Sounds like it......



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https://twitter.com/...048442874408960

 

Iron Bull confirmed as LI apparently. 

 

Now the question is, in what ways will they be gating his romance off? :o



#3913
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YES!  This would be amazing!!!!!  Bisexual IB LI?  Sounds like it......

If he is, then Dorian will probably be the m/m option. :(

 

 

Now the question is, in what ways will they be gating his romance off? :o

No Dwarves. The size difference is too large and will cause animation problems. 



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Nice to see that people will get to ride the bull. Now just get around to anouncing Varric and Dagna, please.
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I hope that means Varric is the option for straight females.  Unfortunately, I have a sinking feeling it's just going to be Cullen.  Oh well.  Iron Bull it is for now anyway.



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I agree that Gamlen is a ridiculous jerk in almost every way, but to sneeringly refer to one of a m/m couple as the "girl" is pretty damned homophobic and insulting to gay people. 

 

 

With respect, I almost think that was more of a comment on who would be on the "receiving" end of the romance.

 

Now, im not saying his statement was appropriate, or anything like that. Its most certainly not. But it seems much more like a statement from someone who is a jerk and uneducated then anything.

 

Its not a good thing to say. and its no doubt an insult. But to me homophobia is much deeper rooted then just a crude remark.

 

But what do i know, really?



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I hope that means Varric is the option for straight females.  Unfortunately, I have a sinking feeling it's just going to be Cullen.  Oh well.  Iron Bull it is for now anyway.

If they do 2/4/2, then Varric may still have a chance if they make Cullen bi. 



#3918
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I think we should all still remain a bit calm in regards to Iron Bull.

 

Nothing has been officially confirmed yet. Just a coy remark from one of the developers.

 

Grant it, it looks pretty likely as of now, but this could still come crashing down pretty hard.



#3919
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I think we should all still remain a bit calm in regards to Iron Bull.

 

Nothing has been officially confirmed yet. Just a coy remark from one of the developers.

 

Grant it, it looks pretty likely as of now, but this could still come crashing down pretty hard.

Well, in the interview last week and again in the video today they both bring up Iron Bull sleeping around so we have more than just the tweet to build a theory off of. 



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I agree that Gamlen is a ridiculous jerk in almost every way, but to sneeringly refer to one of a m/m couple as the "girl" is pretty damned homophobic and insulting to gay people. 

 

I agree it's highly insulting.  I was just pointing out that Gamlen being a pig doesn't necessarily demonstrate that homophobia is common or even normal in Thedas.



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I just watched the video "Under The Horns" where FPJ talks about IB and he mentions that he sleeps with everyone. I don't think he is gonna be gated but you never know I guess. There are parts in the video where FPJ is recording and the voice coming out of his mouth is... not at all FPJ. I don't know what to think of it. It's a bit Sean Connery or something... I honestly don't know if I really like it or dislike it. It suits the Bull I guess... just not what I was expecting at all. :huh:



#3922
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Well, in the interview last week and again in the video today they both bring up Iron Bull sleeping around so we have more than just the tweet to build a theory off of. 

Well, until we see "Yes, Iron Bull is a romance option in Dragon Age Inquisition" from someone who knows, im going to keep my expectations low.


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#3923
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Well, until we see "Yes, Iron Bull is a romance option in Dragon Age Inquisition" from someone who knows, im going to keep my expectations low.

Oh, I agree. Just saying there was more than this one tweet. 



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I think we should all still remain a bit calm in regards to Iron Bull.

 

Nothing has been officially confirmed yet. Just a coy remark from one of the developers.

 

Grant it, it looks pretty likely as of now, but this could still come crashing down pretty hard.

 

Yeah, I am tempering my excitement. Anything less than one of the devs saying, specifically, "The Iron Bull is a romantic interest for the Inquisitor" and I take it with a grain of salt. This is a great sign, mind you, but, still, not outright confirmation.

 

I have a feeling the Iron Bull is going to be like a rollercoaster: YOU MUST BE THIS TALL TO RIDE.

 

Elves and Dwarves: [KICKS GROUND AND SHUFFLES OFF]



#3925
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Yeah, I am tempering my excitement. Anything less than one of the devs saying, specifically, "The Iron Bull is a romantic interest for the Inquisitor" and I take it with a grain of salt. This is a great sign, mind you, but, still, not outright confirmation.

 

I have a feeling the Iron Bull is going to be like a rollercoaster: YOU MUST BE THIS TALL TO RIDE.

 

Elves and Dwarves: [KICKS GROUND AND SHUFFLES OFF]

Elves are as tall as humans now though.