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#3951
Former_Fiend

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I'm not even saying you're wrong, Raga; I'm just saying that even if it's the case, that isn't necessarily something that'll prevent a full romance arc with him.



#3952
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I've been thinking a fair bit about the spread of the romances today.   I'm inclined to feel that if there are more numerically, then those individuals will be restricted some way, either by gender or race.     Alternatively, if the majority are going to be available to all, there will be fewer of them.

 

When that Dev said originally there would be more than any previous game, he was probably thinking in terms of the amount of cinematics generated by the options, which is why he subsequently had to correct himself to more than any DA game.

 

The fact is that the Mass Effect games and DA2 only had one race for the protagonist, human.    In Mass Effect, where by ME3 you had potentially 2 carrying over from ME1 and 4 from ME2 in any one playthrough, plus 2 same sex additions (I'm not counting Thane here because there was very little in the main game that required unique cinematics for his romance carry over), most of the characters were either male or female specific.   Only Kaidan and Liara had the possibility of either sex.    So the number of potential individual cinematics needed would actually be less than for DAO where you had two bisexual characters who could interact with 3 races, doubling the number of cinematics needed compared with their single sex alternatives.

 

This is why I think it more likely that those characters restricted by sexual orientation are more likely to be available to any race, whereas bisexual characters are more likely to be restricted by race, in order to keep the number of cinematics viable.   Which is why the 2/2/2 arrangement is likely the largest number possible if those romances are going to be available to all races, and any additional ones, if at all, will be limited by race.



#3953
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Anybody considered a romance with IB where he still sleeps with your companions? So for him not so much cheating, but an open relationship?

Or maybe him sleeping with companions only before get the chance to romance him?

Maybe it's the inquisitor who has to fight for her IB romance with a companion, rather than two companions fighting for the love of the PC.

 

I think that'd be fun.



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Because if there are only 6 LI's (Cass, Cullen, Sera, IB, one more male companion, and a female NPC), then at least on the male side, it's impossible unless there aren't any straight males. Otherwise, the NPC would be likely be straight (given that Cullen is likely not gay and IB is 'the bisexual'), which would mean that straight females will have 1 companion and 1 NPC and gay males will have 2 companions.

 Yea, but we only know the sexuality of 1 person so far and that's Sera.  It could very easily go something like:

 

Cassanda: straight

Sera: lesbian

Vivienne/Scribbles: Bi

 

Iron Bull: bisexual

Cullen/Varric: straight

Dorian/Solas: gay.



#3955
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I've been saying since they confirmed Cullen as an LI that, assuming he's straight, that doesn't mean the other NPC LI will be the same orientation as him.



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I've been saying since they confirmed Cullen as an LI that, assuming he's straight, that doesn't mean the other NPC LI will be the same orientation as him.

 

Yea, I definitely see it playing out like that



#3957
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I can see a romance with IB working quite well actually. None of the saccharine, gushy, love-y stuff but him and the Inquisitor flirting, leading to a 'one-time' hook-up, after which they decide to continue it, just until either of them get bored, until near the end he decides he's unlikely to get bored any time soon and decides to make it a little more official. No deep attachment, no ever after, just a longer-term deal :)



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So if IB is a romance, that would mean that we know 4 of them:  1 bisexual male, 1 lesbian, 1 unknown sexuality female, 1 unknown sexuality male (NPC)

 

It's kind of all over the place right now.  We don't have any straight LI's announced (at least as confirmed sexuality) and we only have 1 NPC.

 

It also throws a wrench into the plans of the people who were thinking that we were going to have 6 LI's and the NPCs would be bisexual so everyone gets 1 NPC and 1 companion romance.  Now, either it's unevenly distributed (which isn't all that bad in my opinion, but I know alot of people are against it) or we have more than 6 LIs. 

2/4/2 stands strong.  B)


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I feel like the guys who wanted Cullen and the girls who wanted Dorian might be disappointed but something tells me that Varric is going to be a straight option at least for the women that wanted him. I'm not sure about race gating with him. I think it's less likely than people think. He's more likely to be straight than dwarves-only. This is what my crystal ball of a gut tells me.


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2 things I would like:

  1. If Sera is not race-gated (I want to romance her on a qunari female warrior
  2. For the romances to be mentioned in the banter, like in DA2, and for some people, in DA origins (F!Warden/Leliana was not mentioned at all).

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Yea, but we only know the sexuality of 1 person so far and that's Sera. It could very easily go something like:

Cassanda: straight
Sera: lesbian
Vivienne/Scribbles: Bi

Iron Bull: bisexual
Cullen/Varric: straight
Dorian/Solas: gay.


I think you misread my post. I was speaking about the speculation that says 6 LIs: 2 straight companions, 2 gay companions, and 2 bisexual NPCs.

There are many, many other combinations. I wasn't talking about them though.
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Hanako Ikezawa

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2 things I would like:

  1. If Sera is not race-gated (I want to romance her on a qunari female warrior
  2. For the romances to be mentioned in the banter, like in DA2, and for some people, in DA origins (F!Warden/Leliana was not mentioned at all).

 

Since she is an elf, the animations shouldn't be hard so she probably won't be race-gated. 

They said that that banter will continue. 



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daveliam

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2/4/2 stands strong. B)


Certainly still a strong possibility.

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I feel like the guys who wanted Cullen and the girls who wanted Dorian might be disappointed but something tells me that Varric is going to be a straight option at least for the women that wanted him. I'm not sure about race gating with him. I think it's less likely than people think. He's more likely to be straight than dwarves-only. This is what my crystal ball of a gut tells me.

 

I remember him basically telling FemHawke that he wasn't into humans, so if he could end up being a straight dwarf-only romance

 

Then again I feel he won't be a romance option anyway



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Since she is an elf, the animations shouldn't be hard so she probably won't be race-gated.
They said that that banter will continue.


Assuming that animations are the only reason for race gating. I'm not convinced.

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Assuming that animations are the only reason for race gating. I'm not convinced.

Didn't Allan dispel that notion regarding animations?



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The race gating has to do with number of animations. Not the difficulty thereof.

 

Since Sera is already exclusively for female Inquisitiors, I think they've cut down the amount well enough for her to be available to all.


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#3968
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Assuming that animations are the only reason for race gating. I'm not convinced.

 

Could be any reason really. That is why I worry about Sera.



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Didn't Allan dispel that notion regarding animations?


He did for gender gating, I believe.

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Didn't Allan dispel that notion regarding animations?

 

He said that animations were not the reason for having separate sexualities. Race-gating, however, seems to be pretty well tied to animating the scenes (see the very first post of this thread).



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Apparently it's confirmed that (some people) will get a shot at riding the Iron Bull. Wonder how that will be race gated. 



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Apparently it's confirmed that (some people) will get a shot at riding the Iron Bull. Wonder how that will be race gated. 

I bet he is available to all but Dwarves. 



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Apparently it's confirmed that (some people) will get a shot at riding the Iron Bull. Wonder how that will be race gated. 

 

Humans and qunari make the most sense to me, but I could see elves possibly having a shot. Dwarves, for the sake of the animators, are probably a no-go.



#3974
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Humans and qunari make the most sense to me, but I could see elves possibly having a shot. Dwarves, for the sake of the animators, are probably a no-go.

 

I'd rather suspect that Elves would get the short End of the Stick. After all, he seems to be concerned about "not breaking somebody" and Dwarves are the second sturdiest Race right after Qunari themselves. However, since race-gating implies that there are possibly different Cinematics for the Races (which is just Speculation, for which I didn't find something saying different), the sake of Cinematics wouldn't be a problem.



#3975
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2/4/2 stands strong.  B)

 

God I hope 2/4/2 is happening.


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