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They don't find out until it's too late...
................I see, welp that's kind of terrifying. I would have thought there would have been some red flags though but still creepy very creepy. Why would someone ask for that in a romance? though I guess they were joking so I'll go into my corner again....
Why would someone ask for that in a romance?
The Japanese are weird like that.
The Japanese are weird like that.
I meant the people on the forums that said they'd like it though now that I've had some coffee I'm guessing that they were joking. I wonder if there's a name for someone like that that's kind of in reverse?
I hope there isn't any Aspect in any of the Romances that can only be described in a Japanese Anime/Manga-Term. I have an allergic Reaction to those.
I wonder if there's a name for someone like that that's kind of in reverse?
Masochists?
I meant the people on the forums that said they'd like it though now that I've had some coffee I'm guessing that they were joking. I wonder if there's a name for someone like that that's kind of in reverse?
Tsundere although they are not violent in the same way. They punch the MC a lot in harem comedies
Masochists?
That sounds about right. Just toss in some extreme reactions if the other party isn't down with causing grievous amounts of pain to them.
Tsundere although they are not violent in the same way. They punch the MC a lot in harem comedies
I didn't really word it well what I meant was for example there was this guy my grandmother met while she was still on the force and liked it when his girlfriend cut him up with a knife then got very depressed and tried to end his life when the abuse stopped because to him it meant that she didn't love him anymore. So I was wondering if something like that was a trope and I wouldn't be surprised if it was.
That sounds about right. Just toss in some extreme reactions if the other party isn't down with causing grievous amounts of pain to them.
I didn't really word it well what I meant was for example there was this guy my grandmother met while she was still on the force and liked it when his girlfriend cut him up with a knife then got very depressed and tried to end his life when the abuse stopped because to him it meant that she didn't love him anymore. So I was wondering if something like that was a trope and I wouldn't be surprised if it was.
I'm not aware of one. That sounds like a very specialised taste.
I'm not aware of one. That sounds like a very specialised taste.
I haven't watched any anime in a while I'm not up to date on the tropes they used so I thought there may have been one for extreme masochism but wasn't sure. I'm not saying I'd like to see a companion with this type of traits though I just wondering if there was a trope for them somewhere.
Tsundere although they are not violent in the same way. They punch the MC a lot in harem comedies
Not just harem comedies. The most hardcore stuff (punching/beating) is kept to comedies though. A Tsundere is violent (verbally or physically) with the object of their affection, but generally normal with everyone else.
Cassandra's personality make her more of a Kuudere, anyway.
Forgive me, im not sure what yandere is.
That's Yuno Gasai, possibly the most famous one of all. If you want to experience the thrill and horror of an excellent Yandere, go read Future Diary.
Cullen would make a great Yandere.
Well....that was an interesting read, not sure why anyone would want to romance someone like that though, but it does give me an idea for my creepy elf PC :3
It's the dissonance of the creepy-factor that makes it frightening, and thus exciting: kind of the 'love makes you crazy' to a more literal degree.
A love interest who kills your enemies to protect you? Romantic. A LI who threatens to kill a rival for you affection? Disturbing. A LI who threatens to kill you if you get out of line (and, say, cheat on her)? Terrifying.
It's just another variation of wanting to watch a dysfunctional person at work. Hence why so many Bioware companions are so messed up: do we like traumatized and dysfunctional people? Well, apparently, even if we'd never like it IRL.
They don't find out until it's too late...
Hm. Part of Future Diary's strength was that Yuno's yandere tendencies were obvious from almost the start. Rather than relegating it to a side-show, which a Bioware romance would probably have to do, Future Diary was able to make it a focus and thus was able to work through it.
I meant the people on the forums that said they'd like it though now that I've had some coffee I'm guessing that they were joking. I wonder if there's a name for someone like that that's kind of in reverse?
Romantic horror fan? Similar concept to why do people like serial slasher films.
(But yeah, it was a joke... mostly.)
It's the dissonance of the creepy-factor that makes it frightening, and thus exciting: kind of the 'love makes you crazy' to a more literal degree.
A love interest who kills your enemies to protect you? Romantic. A LI who threatens to kill a rival for you affection? Disturbing. A LI who threatens to kill you if you get out of line (and, say, cheat on her)? Terrifying.
It's just another variation of wanting to watch a dysfunctional person at work. Hence why so many Bioware companions are so messed up: do we like traumatized and dysfunctional people? Well, apparently, even if we'd never like it IRL.
I feel like I'm in a minority then cause I don't think I would ever romance a companion that was like that unless maybe its with one of my insane PCs that would do the same. I don't know just the thing seems very close to making it an abusive relationship which I can't see how it would be fun at all.
Hm. Part of Future Diary's strength was that Yuno's yandere tendencies were obvious from almost the start. Rather than relegating it to a side-show, which a Bioware romance would probably have to do, Future Diary was able to make it a focus and thus was able to work through it.
Romantic horror fan? Similar concept to why do people like serial slasher films.
(But yeah, it was a joke... mostly.)
Yeah now that I'm awake and functioning like a person mostly I'm assuming it was a joke but with some types of posts its hard to tell espically if you suck at being able to tell when some one is kidding like I am. I can see how it could be interesting to some to watch but I don't much like having that skin crawling feeling when I'm trying to relax well not when it comes to messed up relationships that and being burned out on having to watch anime with 'romance' with someone that really believes the deceptive controlling romances are as they put them 'sweet and adorable' *shrugs*
I feel like I'm in a minority then cause I don't think I would ever romance a companion that was like that unless maybe its with one of my insane PCs that would do the same. I don't know just the thing seems very close to making it an abusive relationship which I can't see how it would be fun at all.
Oh, no, you're in the majority. Rest assured. A yandere is an unhealthy relationship.
Of course, given the number of remarkably unhealthy companions Bioware throws at us, I've no doubt they could make it entertaining and even sympathetic. A yandere archetype is inherently obsessed, but the nature of the obsession is what can make them more interesting than a random creep.
One motivation for yandere is emotional dependence on the target. That sort of suicidal saving throw, where the yandere only finds hope and strength to move forward by pinning the hopes on the target because otherwise they'd have nothing. Dashing those hopes, however one sided, then becomes a basis for homicidal rage. If you understand that, than a yandere's character development could be emotional rehabilitation to the point at which they aren't so dependent. A character arc could thus mean helping them outgrow the yandere tendencies.
Alternatively, the yandere tendencies could be a subject of pity and victimization for the yandere itself. Imagine if the yandere was someone who was brainwashed and outright conditioned, against their will, to be like that: what comes off as offensive would be a form of pity as the person has no choice. Again, multiple ways to play it.
Yeah now that I'm awake and functioning like a person mostly I'm assuming it was a joke but with some types of posts its hard to tell espically if you suck at being able to tell when some one is kidding like I am. I can see how it could be interesting to some to watch but I don't much like having that skin crawling feeling when I'm trying to relax well not when it comes to messed up relationships that and being burned out on having to watch anime with 'romance' with someone that really believes the deceptive controlling romances are as they put them 'sweet and adorable' *shrugs*
I'm always serious. Just look at my avatar. [/straight face]
If it makes you feel better, I can sympathize. I was definitely not the target audience for the ME2 MShep romances, which I found disturbing and creepy (and not in a good way) on various grounds.
It's the dissonance of the creepy-factor that makes it frightening, and thus exciting: kind of the 'love makes you crazy' to a more literal degree.
A love interest who kills your enemies to protect you? Romantic. A LI who threatens to kill a rival for you affection? Disturbing. A LI who threatens to kill you if you get out of line (and, say, cheat on her)? Terrifying.
It's just another variation of wanting to watch a dysfunctional person at work. Hence why so many Bioware companions are so messed up: do we like traumatized and dysfunctional people? Well, apparently, even if we'd never like it IRL.
I'm always serious. Just look at my avatar. [/straight face]
If it makes you feel better, I can sympathize. I was definitely not the target audience for the ME2 MShep romances, which I found disturbing and creepy (and not in a good way) on various grounds.
I've never done any of them; what's your opinion on why they were disturbing/creepy?
Though I did see the Tali one on Youtube, which I did find creepy, but mostly due to Shepard's voice acting making him sound like he had no appreciation whatsoever for the risks Tali was willing to take.
Edward Cullen for men.
Something like that. Technically a yandere isn't female-only, but if you put the traits on a guy and it would generally have a completely different effect.
Yeah... still not a fan of any of the deres.
I hope that you know that dere just mean lovestruck.
There is a dere type of each and every character who fall in love with something.
I've never done any of them; what's your opinion on why they were disturbing/creepy?
Though I did see the Tali one on Youtube, which I did find creepy, but mostly due to Shepard's voice acting making him sound like he had no appreciation whatsoever for the risks Tali was willing to take.
Well, all Shepard romances are an example of someone in a position of authority playing a favorite by screwing a subordinate. On those grounds alone is the first mark. But, in short: Jack's is to **** an emotionally traumatized person who needs therapy (which is exploitative), Tali's is **** someone at real and open risk to their health because of their hero-worship (which is exploitative), and Miranda... Miranda is a bit less exploitative, but I find the dialogue about how she really only smiles after taking some vitamin D to be offensive for the same reason I find Jack's ME2 arc disgraceful.
Tali's could have been far sweeter and less hormonal if it were responsible and passed on the physical risk in exchange for a tender, emotional unity or even, god forbid, toys. Jack's would have been less creepy if it had a non-romance arc conclusion of Jack healing and connecting with others after anything other than Shepard's magic healing ****. And no, ME3 doesn't cancel out the nature of ME2's work.
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