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#4451
Lady Nuggins

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I think having Vivienne, Dorian, and Cullen in the party will be really interesting where the mage/templar conflict is concerned.  All of them bring perspectives that haven't been deeply explored yet.  Cullen has seen the worst of mages, but he's also seen the worst of templar control.  Vivenne is a mage who favors control, something that not even Wynne could be described as.  Dorian comes from a world ruled by mages. 

 

If we've learned anything from DA2, it's that power corrupts.  If mages and templars had more of a symbiotic relationship based on balance and mutual agreements, rather than fear and control, it would probably be better for everyone. 


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#4452
Hanako Ikezawa

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I think having Vivienne, Dorian, and Cullen in the party will be really interesting where the mage/templar conflict is concerned.  All of them bring perspectives that haven't been deeply explored yet.  Cullen has seen the worst of mages, but he's also seen the worst of templar control.  Vivenne is a mage who favors control, something that not even Wynne could be described as.  Dorian comes from a world ruled by mages. 

 

If we've learned anything from DA2, it's that power corrupts.  If mages and templars had more of a symbiotic relationship based on balance and mutual agreements, rather than fear and control, it would probably be better for everyone. 

But Cullen isn't a companion, or at least not a full time one. 



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I don't think the advisors will be party members you can put in the line-up. I think they just show up in specific missions. My guess is that it will be like the Meredith fight, where there were people that showed up to help, but you didn't control them.      



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I don't think the advisors will be party members you can put in the line-up. I think they just show up in specific missions. My guess is that it will be like the Meredith fight, where there were people that showed up to help, but you didn't control them.      

 

Maybe they could be specific mission temp companions, like how ME did it



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I am wondering how companion accompaniment will be implemented.  Will they be temporary additional companions to your party, will they require that you dismiss your party to make enough room for them, will they just be unkillable npcs that are leashed to you but don't show up on your party roster... 

 

To keep it related to romance, I wonder if Cullen will have special romance-related lines or more while on any quest series of his.  I wonder if Scribbles will have her own questlines and will be accompanying us out in the world in the same degree.  



#4456
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If they are normal party members, I hope you can choose not to use them. I hate being forced to use a specific party member for parts of the game. That's what ruined Mark of the Assassin for me.  



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I am guessing advisors will appear in some important quests (kinda like how we saw cullen in the trailer)

 

Depending on the location maybe they'll even be in camp...if we're allowed to camp.

 

Hopefully it'll be similar to Suikoden where you get different NPC companions that gives certain benefits to the party.

 

Ex: Scribbles can boost the amount of money you get. Cullen can boost str/def. Lelian can boost cunning/dex?



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If they are normal party members, I hope you can choose not to use them. I hate being forced to use a specific party member for parts of the game. That's what ruined Mark of the Assassin for me.  

 

Agreed. That's half the reason I kill Wynne. I'd kill Oghren too if it let me avoid doing the Deep Roads with him (Though at least with him it's only the last segment).

 

I hate that. I have a party, it works for me, then midway through the game they want to throw me off by forcing me to kick someone out for someone who might be redundant.



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Agreed. That's half the reason I kill Wynne. I'd kill Oghren too if it let me avoid doing the Deep Roads with him (Though at least with him it's only the last segment).

 

I hate that. I have a party, it works for me, then midway through the game they want to throw me off by forcing me to kick someone out for someone who might be redundant.

 

Petty  :whistle:  lol



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I wonder if the last character will be hawke it would be awesome and weird to romance yourself lol.



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I think having Vivienne, Dorian, and Cullen in the party will be really interesting where the mage/templar conflict is concerned.  All of them bring perspectives that haven't been deeply explored yet.  Cullen has seen the worst of mages, but he's also seen the worst of templar control.  Vivenne is a mage who favors control, something that not even Wynne could be described as.  Dorian comes from a world ruled by mages. 

 

If we've learned anything from DA2, it's that power corrupts.  If mages and templars had more of a symbiotic relationship based on balance and mutual agreements, rather than fear and control, it would probably be better for everyone. 

 

The thing is, and this just occurred to me, but mages and templars (outside of Tevinter) had very different kinds of power. Mages had this reality altering power - very fearsome - but lacked any political or social power. That is were the sympathy for their victimization comes from: they are essentially like political prisoners under house arrest... except they can burn people alive with their minds. On the other hand, templars have tremendous social and political power, be it with the Chantry, with how the population used to see them (according to Cullen), and with the control they wield over the lives of mages. But at the same time, individually, templars are squishy people in metal suits that would be easy to burn alive if they couldn't somehow stop mages from casting spells (or if mages used blood magic). 

 

So it seems like the problem with the symbiotic relationship is that while there is a way to give mages social and political power (which under the old system they lacked), there is no way to give templars an equivalent to the awesome power mages wield. 



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Petty  :whistle:

 

Do not stand between me and my favorite party is all I'm saying ;P

 

(I seriously have Tali die on the SM for the same reason.)

 

Seriously though that's one of my biggest pet peeves in games. It's immensely annoying.



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Do not stand between me and my favorite party is all I'm saying ;P

 

(I seriously have Tali die on the SM for the same reason.)

 

Seriously though that's one of my biggest pet peeves in games. It's immensely annoying.

 

I like the idea behind it, since I'm also not that picky with party members :P



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To keep it related to romance, I wonder if Cullen will have special romance-related lines or more while on any quest series of his.  I wonder if Scribbles will have her own questlines and will be accompanying us out in the world in the same degree.  

I see no reason why not, especially if they want to make the NPC romances equal in content to the companion romances. 

 

I hope so.



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I never had problems with assigned companions for a mission since I always tend to bring who I think fits the situation best. So like if we engage the Venatori, I will bring Dorian for example. 


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I think it's interesting that BioWare has created a problem the PC can't fix and for which there is no good solution.

I find myself wondering how long it will last.

 

I give it, like… until about 1/4 of the way into DA:I.



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I like the idea behind it, since I'm also not that picky with party members :P

 

XD I am. Breaking up my UTP is grounds for a fight.



#4468
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I wonder if the last character will be hawke it would be awesome and weird to romance yourself lol.

I'd rather have Beth or Carver with Hawke Bioware would have to craft a personality based on your Keep input but afaik it's going to be Cole.



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Dude i woulda loved to have Beth in inquisition i liked them alot.



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What about the fact that Bethany or Carver could be dead in your save? One of my cannon saves has Beth dying in the deep roads. And I thought we were getting nine companions. I'm guessing thats been changed then?



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What about the fact that Bethany or Carver could be dead in your save? One of my cannon saves has Beth dying in the deep roads. And I thought we were getting nine companions. I'm guessing thats been changed then?

No, we still have 9 companions: Vivienne, Solas, Varric, 'Cole', Cassandra, Iron Bull, Dorian, Sera, and Blackwall. 



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What about the fact that Bethany or Carver could be dead in your save? One of my cannon saves has Beth dying in the deep roads. And I thought we were getting nine companions. I'm guessing thats been changed then?

I don't think you know what 'would' means.



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HuldraDancer

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I don't think you know what 'would' means.

You don't have to be rude about me misunderstanding something.



#4474
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No, we still have 9 companions: Vivienne, Solas, Varric, 'Cole', Cassandra, Iron Bull, Dorian, Sera, and Blackwall. 

Ah alright the way some people were wording it, it almost sounded like we would be getting a tenth one.



#4475
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Ah alright the way some people were wording it, it almost sounded like we would be getting a tenth one.

 

Maybe theres a super secret companion