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What happened here?...romance was always a diversion, not the focus. Or maybe that was Mass Effect? Perhaps what separates the two IP's is that Mass Effect, deep down, and for all its faults, is not yet a romance sim.
Carry on.
Neither is DA.
Not sure what your point is. First time you've seen a romance discussion thread?
Neither is DA.
You sure about that?
You sure about that?
Yes.
Did I continue after I was asked to stop?
You were bringing up that as a joke and it is not the same as someone (like myself) who said it might be nice to talk to your LI about kids. Someone asked you to drop it so please drop it.
You sure about that?
People talking about romance in a game != said game is about romance
You sure about that?
Yes. 
You know BW isn't focusing on that, it's the fans. If the fans reactions bother you, then don't read the forums.
Mass Effect wasn't a romance sim and neither is DA. They never will be, and you know this, so please contribute to the conversation in a productive way.
Did I continue after I was asked to stop?
Yes you did, if you hadn't I wouldn't have responded asking you to stop after someone else already did.
Yes.
You know BW isn't focusing on that, it's the fans. If the fans reactions bother you, then don't read the forums.
Mass Effect wasn't a romance sim and neither is DA. They never will be, and you know this, so please contribute to the conversation in a productive way.
I was here talking about Liara and Samara and Leliana before romances became a staple for Bioware. They are very much focusing on it now. Something that was special and treated with care has become the main attraction.
I wasn't the one bringing pregnancies into this. Abortions and periods are very much part of romances as are pregnancies. None of those should be even taboo to talk about...
Dude. Just leave it.
You were bringing up that as a joke and it is not the same as someone (like myself) who said it might be nice to talk to your LI about kids. Someone asked you to drop it so please drop it.
Yes you did, if you hadn't I wouldn't have responded asking you to stop after someone else already did.
6 minutes in between I didn't respond hence your comment was really unnecessary as I long since dropped the subject.
I was here talking about Liara and Samara and Leliana before romances became a staple for Bioware. They are very much focusing on it now. Something that was special and treated with care has become the main attraction.
They aren't focusing on romance. Fan response doesn't indicate what the developer is or isn't doing.
And you're derailing the thread, so let's drop it.
6 minutes in between I didn't respond hence your comment was really unnecessary as I long since dropped the subject.
Look I don't want to derail this thread so how about we both just drop this?
The fans are making it the main attraction. The actual main attraction to a BW game isn't the romances. Shoot, I've done several "nomances" of various BW games, including the Dragon Age games. If the romances were the main attraction, I would have felt like I was missing out. I never did, not for a second. I found myself too engrossed in the rest of the story to notice.
The first time I romanced someone in any BW game was ToR. I didn't even know for years about the male LI in NWN; didn't like the paladin in NWN2, and skipped the romances in BG2. Yet, I still fell in love with the company and with their style of storytelling.
So no, the writers haven't made a focus out of this. The fans have made this such a huge deal and possibly the marketing department. Which, as you know, BW has little to no control over.
Also, over the last few years since ME2 came out, the fanbase for both DA and ME has grown. Yes, even the ME fan base has grown; I finished the series for the first time a couple of weeks ago. Naturally, you're going to have a lot more folks posting and talking about romance. If you haven't noticed the twitter feed coming from the devs, they are more busy talking about the companions themselves, and about the amount of dragons that are going to be in the game. If you take any and all companion discussion by the writers and devs as "romance talk," then that's on you and not them.
Finally, E3 just finished, GaymerX is right around the corner and the buzz is in the air for DA:I. There is going to be a lot of newcomers to the forums coming to check out information and fan reaction. People love talking about sex and romance, so it stands to reason this is a very active thread.
Edit: @Huldra No worries, I'm done.
Edit#2: This was my 5000th post.
I don't think a game can be called a romance sim if the romance aspect is completely avoidable all the way through the game. I barely ever see the game devs talking about romance, it's 99% fan talk because it can be a fun thing to speculate and talk about in general. Some people care about it more than others, yes, but it's still very obviously treated like something optional because it is.
Romance has always been a tertiary content staple in BioWare games since Baldur's Gate 2. In fact, those romance plots are more involved than some of the games that came after it. Acting like this is something new that BioWare is focusing on is disingenuous.
I don't think a game can be called a romance sim if the romance aspect is completely avoidable all the way through the game. I barely ever see the game devs talking about romance, it's 99% fan talk because it can be a fun thing to speculate and talk about in general. Some people care about it more than others, yes, but it's still very obviously treated like something optional because it is.
So Persona is a dungeon crawler?
They aren't focusing on romance. Fan response doesn't indicate what the developer is or isn't doing.
Yes they are. Yes it does.
So Persona is a dungeon crawler?
... Yes? It's literally half of the game, and is completely unavoidable.
Yes they are. Yes it does.
Fantastic arguments there.
Yes they are. Yes it does.
You know, I can see this going nowhere, so:
Uh, so... so how about Cassandra, huh? And Cullen? Wow, and Sera too. Such romance. Many discuss.
How certain are we that the Iron Bull will be romanceable, and/or race-locked to a qunari player? I think I remember Allan or another dev saying that more difficulties are involved with animating dwarf and human love scenes because of height and such, perhaps that's a contributing factor for qunari as well.
I think I remember Allan or another dev saying that more difficulties are involved with animating dwarf and human love scenes because of height and such, perhaps that's a contributing factor for qunari as well.
They've never said that to my knowledge. What they have said is that creating scenes for all races and both genders would take too long. It has nothing to do with dwarves and qunari specifically.
I'm pretty certain in IB being a LI, but I do think he'll be race gated due to animation issues. I'm just jazzed I got to hear his voice as well as Sera's. 
Admittedly FPJ looks a little odd doing the voice, but I've noticed that with voice acting. You can't act with your body, so your face and voice does all the work.
Cassandra I'm hoping is available as bisexual. Cullen is...there. I look forward to talking to him and seeing how he's been, but I've never been inclined to romance him. Sera, as big of a fan as I am of hers, is starting to slide into the "sister zone," but that could change.
I'm one of those poor suckers that keep hoping for a Varric romance for her Lady Cadash Quizzy. <starts singing "To Dream the Impossible Dream.">
So Persona is a dungeon crawler?
I would consider it one, yes. Not that it's a bad thing... I quite enjoy the series.
I'm pretty certain in IB being a LI, but I do think he'll be race gated due to animation issues. I'm just jazzed I got to hear his voice as well as Sera's.
Admittedly FPJ looks a little odd doing the voice, but I've noticed that with voice acting. You can't act with your body, so your face and voice does all the work.
Cassandra I'm hoping is available as bisexual. Cullen is...there. I look forward to talking to him and seeing how he's been, but I've never been inclined to romance him. Sera, as big of a fan as I am of hers, is starting to slide into the "sister zone," but that could change.
I'm one of those poor suckers that keep hoping for a Varric romance for her Lady Cadash Quizzy. <starts singing "To Dream the Impossible Dream.">
I feel we can be pretty sure that Cullen is straight, simply because he digs the Lady Amell but not the Gentleman one. I'm the same with him, though, I get the feeling his romance could be legendary, but I just don't know enough about him to be as excited as others.
I love Sera so far and I'm crossing my fingers that being best gal pals with her won't lock in any kind of romance, unlike a certain red haired bard who's hair I no long compliment out of fear.
I feel we can be pretty sure that Cullen is straight, simply because he digs the Lady Amell but not the Gentleman one. I'm the same with him, though, I get the feeling his romance could be legendary, but I just don't know enough about him to be as excited as others.
I love Sera so far and I'm crossing my fingers that being best gal pals with her won't lock in any kind of romance, unlike a certain red haired bard who's hair I no long compliment out of fear.
Glad to know I'm not the only one who got tricked into a Leliana romance... multiple times... 
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